2020 Dem candidate

[jwlcosu]

The GOP will cheat their way to the Oval Office again just like they always do.

For the record, Bob, this never happened. If you care to argue otherwise, cite reference. Be better.

 

[biggunsbob]

For the record, Bob, this never happened. If you care to argue otherwise, cite reference. Be better.

How about starting with that partisan 5-4 vote with Bush verses Gore. No wonder that traitor McConnell did what did.
Dont get me started with all the Gerrymander states the GOP has fuck over. The GOP stands for never having a straight up head to head election because they know what will happen.
The GOP can go to hell .

 

[jwlcosu]

How about starting with that partisan 5-4 vote with Bush verses Gore. No wonder that traitor McConnell did what did.
Dont get me started with all the Gerrymander states the GOP has fuck over. The GOP stands for never having a straight up head to head election because they know what will happen.
The GOP can go to hell .

Bush v. Gore had to end one way or another. The court made a decision. That's not the GOP.

Gerrymandering is something that both parties dabble in. But it's a non-factor insofar as presidential elections are concerned. States are won or lost in presidential elections, not districts.

If you want to talk about cheating in presidential elections, how's about we talk Broward County?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Gerrymandering is something that both parties dabble in. But it's a non-factor insofar as presidential elections are concerned. States are won or lost in presidential elections, not districts.

I?m not registered to either party and not particularly partisan either way, but California is so crazy left that typically Republicans don?t even qualify to run in statewide general elections.

I sometimes think to myself ?if the liberals on the DSF politics board lived here in California, they would think ?Yeah I?m liberal-but this shit is crazy.??

 

[biggunsbob]

Bush v. Gore had to end one way or another. The court made a decision. That's not the GOP.

Gerrymandering is something that both parties dabble in. But it's a non-factor insofar as presidential elections are concerned. States are won or lost in presidential elections, not districts.

If you want to talk about cheating in presidential elections, how's about we talk Broward County?

We know what party purges more voters from voting roles. We can go state by state if you want. North Carolina, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida the lists goes on and on. Hey you can have all your voters back and we can have all our voters back? I bet there would not be one GOP member on board with that.

 

[sggatecl]

I?m not registered to either party and not particularly partisan either way, but California is so crazy left that typically Republicans don?t even qualify to run in statewide general elections.

I sometimes think to myself ?if the liberals on the DSF politics board lived here in California, they would think ?Yeah I?m liberal-but this shit is crazy.??

Every time I feel Trump pushing me to the left, I take a look at some of the shit in Seattle and California and then play the Stealers Wheel classic "Stuck in the Middle with You". It's therapeutic.

 

[tomdalton22]

We know what party purges more voters from voting roles. We can go state by state if you want. North Carolina, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida the lists goes on and on. Hey you can have all your voters back and we can have all our voters back? I bet there would not be one GOP member on board with that.

how exactly are they purging voters from voting roles?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Every time I feel Trump pushing me to the left, I take a look at some of the shit in Seattle and California and then play the Stealers Wheel classic "Stuck in the Middle with You". It's therapeutic.

Nice job.

Some SNL writer came up with it a few years ago.

Not that I?m saying I?d like to be stuck in the middle of anything having to do with HRC.

There is something in the middle of the crazy AOC that I wouldn?t mind being stuck in though.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kkU40mXT2WY

 

[Spartanmack]

Oof... no wonder Biden's staffers seem to be falling all over themselves to limit his public appearances to $2500/plate billionaire fundraisers... the history of Sen. Eastland YIKES. Those comments are horrifying.

For the "America was never a racist country" crowd... note that Eastland, a Democrat (from the now-Republican Dixiecrat branch of the party) served in the senate until 1978.

Sorry, there is no Republican Dixiecrat branch of the party. The racist southern Dem stayed racist southern Dems until their deaths - just like James Easton. The switch is a thoroughly debunked myth that leftist historians attempted to foist onto gullible fools in order to deflect the shameful history of racism in the Democratic party and falsely accuse Republicans, the party of Lincoln of becoming racist. It's clear the south didn't become more Republican until it became less racist.

 

[Spartanmack]

We know what party purges more voters from voting roles. We can go state by state if you want. North Carolina, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida the lists goes on and on. Hey you can have all your voters back and we can have all our voters back? I bet there would not be one GOP member on board with that.

of course not, why would we give back all your dead voters? that would be insane.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Sorry, there is no Republican Dixiecrat branch of the party. The racist southern Dem stayed racist southern Dems until their deaths - just like James Easton. The switch is a thoroughly debunked myth that leftist historians attempted to foist onto gullible fools in order to deflect the shameful history of racism in the Democratic party and falsely accuse Republicans, the party of Lincoln of becoming racist. It's clear the south didn't become more Republican until it became less racist.

I came across this post yesterday while I was out doing business, looking forward to getting home to watch Michigan baseball, so I didn?t get a chance to respond until now.

The names Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms came to my mind immediately, both southern Democrats at the time of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who opposed it and later became Republicans.

I don?t know if they were racist or segregationists-maybe they did indeed oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because of the Reserve Clause of the Constitution, not unlike Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater claimed to have done-I don?t think Goldwater was a racist, so maybe neither Thurmond nor Helms were either.

Anyway they?re all long dead so fuck ?em.

 

[byco42]

The first Dem-bate is tomorrow, and I'm wondering what the 135 participants could possibly disagree over. Wait - pot. Yang wants to make it legal and free.

"Legal! Free! 18% THC!"

There are almost as many moderators moderating.

 

[Spartanmack]

I came across this post yesterday while I was out doing business, looking forward to getting home to watch Michigan baseball, so I didn?t get a chance to respond until now.

The names Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms came to my mind immediately, both southern Democrats at the time of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who opposed it and later became Republicans.

I don?t know if they were racist or segregationists-maybe they did indeed oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because of the Reserve Clause of the Constitution, not unlike Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater claimed to have done-I don?t think Goldwater was a racist, so maybe neither Thurmond nor Helms were either.

Anyway they?re all long dead so fuck ?em.

So you named 1 senator (Thurmond) out of 21 Dem southern senators - 20 of 21 were and stayed Democrats well after the civil rights act passed - doesn't sound like much of a switch. Helms did also switch parties but not until 1970 - still doesn't seem like much of a switch, let alone a big one.

Congress in the south didn't become Republican until 1994 - for 30 years after the Civil Rights act, congressional representatives from the south were dominated by the Democratic party. Did it take 30 years for the racists to figure it out and then switch or is it possible that as the south has become less racist, it has become more Republican?

 

[tinselwolverine]

So you named 1 senator (Thurmond) out of 21 Dem southern senators - 20 of 21 were and stayed Democrats well after the civil rights act passed - doesn't sound like much of a switch. Helms did also switch parties but not until 1970 - still doesn't seem like much of a switch, let alone a big one.

Congress in the south didn't become Republican until 1994 - for 30 years after the Civil Rights act, congressional representatives from the south were dominated by the Democratic party. Did it take 30 years for the racists to figure it out and then switch or is it possible that as the south has become less racist, it has become more Republican?

I just started facts.

Facts are what I?m about.

I also state opinions, but I think I pretty clearly differentiate facts from my opinions.

At least that?s my opinion.

To answer your question, my opinion is-maybe.

 

[Spartanmack]

I just started facts.

Facts are what I?m about.

I also state opinions, but I think I pretty clearly differentiate facts from my opinions.

At least that?s my opinion.

To answer your question, my opinion is-maybe.

I'd be happier with a probably not, but I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic and "maybe" a little provocative.

 

[sggatecl]

The first Dem-bate is tomorrow, and I'm wondering what the 135 participants could possibly disagree over. Wait - pot. Yang wants to make it legal and free.

"Legal! Free! 18% THC!"

There are almost as many moderators moderating.

There are a few center left candidates in the mix. I'm hoping one of them has a strong showing and restores some sanity to the ultra left - ultra right shit show currently dominating the political scene.

It's become clear that the right isn't moving to the middle this cycle. Much to my chagrin, it looks like I'm depending on the left to do it. I fully expect to be disappointed though.

 

[jwlcosu]

There are a few center left candidates in the mix. I'm hoping one of them has a strong showing and restores some sanity to the ultra left - ultra right shit show currently dominating the political scene.

It's become clear that the right isn't moving to the middle this cycle. Much to my chagrin, it looks like I'm depending on the left to do it. I fully expect to be disappointed though.

I'm a Trumpster but a democrat candidate I find appealing is John Delaney. He'll never make it, however. Far too reasonable, level-headed and business savvy to win over today's democrat electorate. I would also consider Howard Schultz if he were to run as an independent but that seems pretty unlikely at this point.

 

[Michchamp]

There are a few center left candidates in the mix. I'm hoping one of them has a strong showing and restores some sanity to the ultra left - ultra right shit show currently dominating the political scene.

It's become clear that the right isn't moving to the middle this cycle. Much to my chagrin, it looks like I'm depending on the left to do it. I fully expect to be disappointed though.

You are unfamiliar with The Fish hook Theory?

I think what really underpins this is the fact that both centrists and the far right pursue the same economic policies: low-tax, low regulation, and low public investment, (to fund big subsidies for the oil and defense industries). all this lead to economic stagnation for the bottom 90% of the income/wealth scale, and most of the gains going to the 1%.

This has been largely consistent, regardless of who has been president OR controlled congress, since 1980.

economic & political inequality (really the same thing since money buys power) are the source of our current problems, not gay marriage or abortion rights. But support or opposition to political footballs like that allows the centrists and far right to distinguish themselves to clueless voters.

A lot of people don't agree, but I find their competing theories unsupported by evidence.

 

[tinselwolverine]

You are unfamiliar with The Fish hook Theory?

The article ends by saying that the fishhook theory primarily satirizes the Horshoe theory.

That makes sense and it?s pretty funny.

Not as funny as seeing a midget falling off a tricycle, but still-pretty funny.

 

[Spartanmack]

You are unfamiliar with The Fish hook Theory?

I think what really underpins this is the fact that both centrists and the far right pursue the same economic policies: low-tax, low regulation, and low public investment, (to fund big subsidies for the oil and defense industries). all this lead to economic stagnation for the bottom 90% of the income/wealth scale, and most of the gains going to the 1%.

This has been largely consistent, regardless of who has been president OR controlled congress, since 1980.

economic & political inequality (really the same thing since money buys power) are the source of our current problems, not gay marriage or abortion rights. But support or opposition to political footballs like that allows the centrists and far right to distinguish themselves to clueless voters.

A lot of people don't agree, but I find their competing theories unsupported by evidence.

do you find their competing theories as unsupported by evidence as the theories you propogate? Not only are those unsupported by evidence, there's literally more than half century of evidence of their abject failure.