2022 Off-Season

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If you fail to make the playoffs for 10 consecutive years, you get forced to sell the team. It?s the best if the best, force everyone to compete at the highest level!

 

[grandy]

If you fail to make the playoffs for 10 consecutive years, you get forced to sell the team. It?s the best if the best, force everyone to compete at the highest level!

Obviously the owners would never go for that, but I do like the concept.

In the current environment of revenue sharing, there?s really no financial downside to owning even the worst teams. I know it helps out the smaller markets and yes there are financial benefits of doing well, but there doesn?t seem to be much risk of losing significant amounts of money with a team that plays like trash every year.

I still have no reason to believe the Fords actually care about this franchise. It?s like some burdensome family heirloom that they don?t want to sell but have no pride in owning.

 

[LKP]

Fords upgrade the facilities. Willing to let Lions get who they want and get to the cap. We just can't get the right GM/HC combo or find a QB most years other than Stafford. Holmes/Campbell/collaboration is the latest attempt. It's difficult considering the amount of rebuild these GMs/HCs need to do. Most times they get a little something to work with. Like DeCosta to Baltimore after Ozzie built great teams. Gutekunst taking over for Thompson, KC took some time to really build but they did it right, NE Brady and Belichick but maybe more Brady. San Fran good but then quickly flame out twice. Seattle and New Orleans GM stability and consistent playoff teams. Rams finally got built up last 5 seasons and now over the top with Stafford. Arizona up and down with Keim but got their QB in Murray with innovative coach.

Like we need to find the right combo, get lucky in drafts when we have a top 5 pick, we get a true top 5 elite talent. Plus good OCs and DCs and coaches that can really teach young talent. I like how the defensive coaches teach. Offense not so much other than maybe Fraley and Staley. We got some good players like Stafford and Suh close to elite. But others were like Ansah who is good to but not elite.

And then Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Ernie Sims and Charles Rodgers and Okudah just setting us back more than helping. Need a really good QB coach. Add Caldwell if he is willing.

Mayhew built a team quickly needing a huge rebuild but it quickly flamed out (coaching and turnovers). 3 years from Millen to playoffs.

Now we got to do it again. I hope the rookies develop and got to keep adding talent.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2021...-pickett-sam-howell-pittsburgh-north-carolina

Pickett and Pitt against Howell and UNC tonight. Two high QB prospects

Howells team is so bad, think it?s tanking his stock. Very lionesque outside of a couple of decent skill players.

 

[mhughes0021]

I like Pickett. He's going to be the #1 pick.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

I like Pickett. He's going to be the #1 pick.

I just don?t like his arm strength. For me to see him as a franchise guy it looks mediocre when he drives the ball. Good colllege player though.

 

[LKP]

I like Pickett. He's going to be the #1 pick.

Pickett and Corral are the most ready I think and go top 10. We'll see how it shakes out. Few more games then pro days/combine/interviews.

Wouldn't mind Howell if he drops to Rams pick

Willis is not doing well but he is the boom or bust guy. Can the Lions really gamble on a raw guy like this. He has the speed and arm strength though, can they coach him into a good QB. Gonna take until 2024 I think for him. But again at Rams pick, you could take him

 

[detroit1811]

Pickett and Corral are the most ready I think and go top 10. We'll see how it shakes out. Few more games then pro days/combine/interviews.

Wouldn't mind Howell if he drops to Rams pick

Willis is not doing well but he is the boom or bust guy. Can the Lions really gamble on a raw guy like this. He has the speed and arm strength though, can they coach him into a good QB. Gonna take until 2024 I think for him. But again at Rams pick, you could take him

People keeping knocking this QB class, but I don?t think it is that bad a class. The issue is is lacks an obvious superstar and there are no ?clean prospects?. There are a ton of guys who have a lot of top end talent though, but they need developed.

Maybe I?m in the minority here, but this is the most talented and deep 2nd/3rd tier QB class I?ve seen in a long time, and a really good time to need a QB if you are picking in the late first/second.

 

[LKP]

People keeping knocking this QB class, but I don?t think it is that bad a class. The issue is is lacks an obvious superstar and there are no ?clean prospects?. There are a ton of guys who have a lot of top end talent though, but they need developed.

Maybe I?m in the minority here, but this is the most talented and deep 2nd/3rd tier QB class I?ve seen in a long time, and a really good time to need a QB if you are picking in the late first/second.

Think its a very good thing we go that Rams deal. Pick 1 for defensive stud, Rams pick QB to develop, and still have Round 2 pick 1 for other help

Plus the Rams 2023 pick and Ife Melifonwu

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Think its a very good thing we go that Rams deal. Pick 1 for defensive stud, Rams pick QB to develop, and still have Round 2 pick 1 for other help

Plus the Rams 2023 pick and Ife Melifonwu

I feel like the late first round pick or second round pick qb doesn?t work just about ever. So I?d rather just take a talented player to build up the team. Looking at todays qbs the only one who looks to be worth something that was a later first round pick was Lamar Jackson. So doesn?t seem like a solid strategy.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

People keeping knocking this QB class, but I don?t think it is that bad a class. The issue is is lacks an obvious superstar and there are no ?clean prospects?. There are a ton of guys who have a lot of top end talent though, but they need developed.

Maybe I?m in the minority here, but this is the most talented and deep 2nd/3rd tier QB class I?ve seen in a long time, and a really good time to need a QB if you are picking in the late first/second.

Compare Sam Howells stats throughout his career to Trevor Lawrence?s at Clemson. You?ll quickly realize there is a superstar in this class.

 

[LKP]

I feel like the late first round pick or second round pick qb doesn?t work just about ever. So I?d rather just take a talented player to build up the team. Looking at todays qbs the only one who looks to be worth something that was a later first round pick was Lamar Jackson. So doesn?t seem like a solid strategy.

Depends if you have faith in this QB class if someone falls to there. Like Willis or Howell. I have faith in both of them with the Rams pick. Now they might be gone too

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Depends if you have faith in this QB class if someone falls to there. Like Willis or Howell. I have faith in both of them with the Rams pick. Now they might be gone too

Yeah but a lot of borderline playoff teams have aging qbs that need to be replaced Pittsburgh, Carolina, Denver, Green Bay. And that?s not counting a lot of teams who need to replace their qbs that are bad teams. They?re not falling to us.

 

[LKP]

Agree they might not fall to the Rams pick. But not wanting them at 1 either. Trade down best option then if you want a QB first to make up for not getting Thibodeaux

 

[tomdalton22]

Yeah but a lot of borderline playoff teams have aging qbs that need to be replaced Pittsburgh, Carolina, Denver, Green Bay..

My guess is AR will be on one of those 4 teams.

 

[mhughes0021]

Im not as high on Willis but ill come to his defense a little bit here. He plays for Liberty....LIBERTY. And they are playing the likes of SEC schools that have talent everywhere. I watched the Ole Miss game and he had 0 time then entire game...literally every snap the defense had multiple guys in the backfield. No one can succeed in that situation.

The good news about having a group of guys with similar grades is someone will fall to you. I think you have to pick one with your late first or early 2nd round pick and try to develop him. Goff is your penciled in starter next year....after that we need to make a decision. Would be good to get a year under a young QBs belt to see what he has prior to that.

The bad part is I hate the idea of picking a QB when you have so many damn holes and Goff is penciled in as your starter. Its the reason you dont go into a rebuild with a high priced vet. Want a high priced vet....should have kept stafford.

The value position in next years draft will be the WR group. I think you target one with the rams pick unless a QB youre in love with falls there. Treylon Burks will probably be the 5th or 6th WR off the board. Thats insane with how talented he is....

Im not high on Olave. He puts up numbers and has crazy good hands. But i dont like his size. To me he's a much worse version of Waddle or D Smith and even they are having a hard time contributing on the outside consistently in the NFL. Burks is a bonafide outside WR which we dont have on this roster.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Im not as high on Willis but ill come to his defense a little bit here. He plays for Liberty....LIBERTY. And they are playing the likes of SEC schools that have talent everywhere. I watched the Ole Miss game and he had 0 time then entire game...literally every snap the defense had multiple guys in the backfield. No one can succeed in that situation.

The good news about having a group of guys with similar grades is someone will fall to you. I think you have to pick one with your late first or early 2nd round pick and try to develop him. Goff is your penciled in starter next year....after that we need to make a decision. Would be good to get a year under a young QBs belt to see what he has prior to that.

The bad part is I hate the idea of picking a QB when you have so many damn holes and Goff is penciled in as your starter. Its the reason you dont go into a rebuild with a high priced vet. Want a high priced vet....should have kept stafford.

The value position in next years draft will be the WR group. I think you target one with the rams pick unless a QB youre in love with falls there. Treylon Burks will probably be the 5th or 6th WR off the board. Thats insane with how talented he is....

Im not high on Olave. He puts up numbers and has crazy good hands. But i dont like his size. To me he's a much worse version of Waddle or D Smith and even they are having a hard time contributing on the outside consistently in the NFL. Burks is a bonafide outside WR which we dont have on this roster.

That's the problem with Malik Willis, he doesn't play anyone all year long. And if you watch him play vs the scrub teams he normally plays he often times doesn't even run away from those guys. Lots of film of him getting caught from behind vs nobody schools. That's not a good look for a mainly running qb.

 

[zyxt9]

I do not accept the excuse of Willis playing on Liberty as a defense for his performance. Reason being, in today's NCAA he had the option to use the Portal and go compete to start for a bigger school. If he had the talent, he likely would have had one of the schools approach him and extend an unofficial offer.

Nope, sorry. If he was NFL talent, he would not be playing at Liberty. He also would have the option of playing 1 more year with a better team and be part of the 2023 draft class and potentially be a top 5 pick.

So I just don't buy into his story.

And the Lions do not have the luxury of developing QBs who are currently 2nd stringers at best. Better off trying to work Goff back into a top tier NFL QB next year when he has better players around him. If he fails, then they have a likely chance to go after a 2023 QB who has NFL talent to be a starter in their rookie year. Those other teams can roll the dice on a project QB that has debatable chance to be more than a career backup... and by career backup I mean not being cut till after their rookie contract is over.

 

[JScottWriter]

Im not as high on Willis but ill come to his defense a little bit here. He plays for Liberty....LIBERTY. And they are playing the likes of SEC schools that have talent everywhere. I watched the Ole Miss game and he had 0 time then entire game...literally every snap the defense had multiple guys in the backfield. No one can succeed in that situation.

The good news about having a group of guys with similar grades is someone will fall to you. I think you have to pick one with your late first or early 2nd round pick and try to develop him. Goff is your penciled in starter next year....after that we need to make a decision. Would be good to get a year under a young QBs belt to see what he has prior to that.

The bad part is I hate the idea of picking a QB when you have so many damn holes and Goff is penciled in as your starter. Its the reason you dont go into a rebuild with a high priced vet. Want a high priced vet....should have kept stafford.

The value position in next years draft will be the WR group. I think you target one with the rams pick unless a QB youre in love with falls there. Treylon Burks will probably be the 5th or 6th WR off the board. Thats insane with how talented he is....

Im not high on Olave. He puts up numbers and has crazy good hands. But i dont like his size. To me he's a much worse version of Waddle or D Smith and even they are having a hard time contributing on the outside consistently in the NFL. Burks is a bonafide outside WR which we dont have on this roster.

He threw 3 picks in each game against MTSU, Louisiana Monroe and Ole Miss. But his 4 TDs against the power house Old Dominion makes me think he's a top 5 pick. I hope it he goes to the Lions it's in the 3rd round or later.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Also I recant my Kayvon Thibodeaux hate. I watched one game where he was rather unimpressive. But then I watched vs ucla and he wrecked the game. Dunno how good the right tackle on UCLA was though.