4 stats make a pitcher...

[hellifino]

E.R.A.
Ks
W/L
Quality starts

any other stats are just stats to jerk off too, when you have nothing else to do, and was prolly the brainchild of some geeks who never played baseball.

 

[mjsb2]

lol

 

[boogerlovejoy]

E.R.A.
Ks
W/L
Quality starts

any other stats are just stats to jerk off too, when you have nothing else to do, and was prolly the brainchild of some geeks who never played baseball.

How many names does Chica have??

Ban this fool!!

 

[Thumb]

Yeah, all those jerkoff stats like K/9, BB/9, K/BB, IP, ERA+, xFIP, WAR....

 

[hellifino]

How many names does Chica have??

Ban this fool!!

blow me jerk, at least I post stuff, instead of sitting on my ass taking pot shots at everyone else.

 

[hellifino]

Yeah, all those jerkoff stats like K/9, BB/9, K/BB, IP, ERA+, xFIP, WAR....

exactly... take all that war shit you keep bringing up and take a long fucking walk off a short dock.

 

[grandy]

E.R.A.
Ks
W/L
Quality starts

any other stats are just stats to jerk off too, when you have nothing else to do, and was prolly the brainchild of some geeks who never played baseball.

In other words, you like to use flawed and skewed statistics to judge a pitcher.

 

[hellifino]

In other words, you like to use flawed and skewed statistics to judge a pitcher.

tell that to Drysdale,Kofax Whitey Ford etc.................... no one needed them useless stats back in the day, hey if it makes the parade anymore enjoyable for you then use them.

 

[Thumb]

exactly... take all that war shit you keep bringing up and take a long fucking walk off a short dock.

You sure do a lot of insulting people.

Someone disagrees with you and you be come a total prick, back up your arguments with stats or facts if you disagree, the name calling makes you sound 15.

Why don't you stick to posting "Fire Leyland" and rooting for *Ohio State.

 

[hellifino]

You sure do a lot of insulting people.

Someone disagrees with you and you be come a total prick, back up your arguments with stats or facts if you disagree, the name calling makes you sound 15.

Why don't you stick to posting "Fire Leyland" and rooting for *Ohio State.

I don't start the name calling, it's after hearing myself being called names that I respond.

 

[grandy]

I'll just leave this here, they did a nice job of keeping it simple.

Regarding ERA

"ERA is not a good predictor of future success, as Earned Runs are dependent on multiple factors outside of the pitchers control: defense, umpiring, the judgment of a scorekeeper, etc. Pitchers aren’t held accountable for runs scored as a result of an Error by one of their fielders, but they are held accountable for runs scored on bloop hits that get by slow or poor defenders. If a pitcher has a poor defense behind him, he will likely end up with a higher ERA than he should have.

As a result, a pitcher’s ERA is a poor estimate of their true talent level. Consider this scenario. In your mind, who is the better player: the pitcher that strikes out the side, or the pitcher that relies on his rangy defense to haul in three deep fly balls? ERA thinks that both pitchers are just as good, but that’s not telling you the full picture."

Read up
http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/pitching/

Maybe you'll understand why those triple crown stats don't tell the whole story. You're capable of reading aren't you?

 

[hellifino]

"You're capable of reading aren't you? "

nice little insult there... wait a minute, if I call you a piece of shit, will that make us even?

 

[grandy]

"You're capable of reading aren't you? "

nice little insult there... wait a minute, if I call you a piece of shit, will that make us even?

I was just curious, since you seem to ignore any arguments against your baseless opinions.

 

[hellifino]

I was just curious, since you seem to ignore any arguments against your baseless opinions.

how can you call my opinion baseless? go back 25-30 years ago, and what I posted is all that was needed to know about a pitcher.

 

[mjsb2]

tell that to Drysdale,Kofax Whitey Ford etc.................... no one needed them useless stats back in the day, hey if it makes the parade anymore enjoyable for you then use them.

Would you rather go to a doctor using the practices from the 1950s, or would you rather go a doctor that uses modern technology and practices?

 

[mjsb2]

how can you call my opinion baseless? go back 25-30 years ago, and what I posted is all that was needed to know about a pitcher.

You do know that every single ML team has people on payroll that use sabermetric stats to judge and evaluate players, don't you?

There is no longer a debate amongst ML teams, all teams accept that these stats have value.

 

[hellifino]

You do know that every single ML team has people on payroll that use sabermetric stats to judge and evaluate players, don't you?

There is no longer a debate amongst ML teams, all teams accept that these stats have value.

that's why it cost you $ 300 for a family of 4 to see a game.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

how can you call my opinion baseless? go back 25-30 years ago, and what I posted is all that was needed to know about a pitcher.

Go away Chica.....you're opinion is as valued on this board as Matt Millens is in a draft war room.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

that's why it cost you $ 300 for a family of 4 to see a game.

That's two weeks pay for you. I'd tell your Taco Bell shift manager you're ready for the register!!!!

 

[hellifino]

That's two weeks pay for you. I'd tell your Taco Bell shift manager you're ready for the register!!!!

dude, I'm turning 60 next month, and retired early.... just shut the fuck up already!