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[mhughes0021]

"Matthew Stafford made his first Pro Bowl last year, but his 2014 game tape wasn't nearly as impressive as many hoped under Jim Caldwell and coordinator Joe Lombardi."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469699/article/kurt-warner-matthew-stafford-has-work-to-do


such as this tape, good read..piss poor throw:

obviously just doesn't have the arm strength to get it done outdoors....that ball was underthrown by about 12 yards lmao.

 

[LKP]

obviously just doesn't have the arm strength to get it done outdoors....that ball was underthrown by about 12 yards lmao.

Great throw. Great decision. Not underthrown. Thrown there on purpose. And the refs again refuse to call obvious PI.

 

[LKP]

Second half of that game. 3 FG attempt drives led by Stafford (one blocked) and a TD drive (set up by PI on a good deep throw to Fuller).

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Great throw. Great decision. Not underthrown. Thrown there on purpose. And the refs again refuse to call obvious PI.

Great throw??

You watch that video and come away with "great throw"?

People on this board would actually respect your opinion a lot more if you just saw the obvious.

Great decision......absolutely. Always a great call to throw to the open deep guy!

Great throw......no. Underthrown by 8-10 yards.

PI.....eh....maybe..... Hard to tell in that video if the CB gets to him before the ball does.

Thrown there intentionally......FUCK NO. I guarantee Stafford himself would tell you he should make that throw. QB's don't back shoulder a throw to an open receiver streaking down the sideline who has 5 yards of separation on the DB and there is NO safety over the top. No point to back shoulder it.

It was an underthrown ball. No question about it.

As far as not having the arm strength Hughes......that's just you trolling. Matthew Stafford as one of the 3 strongest arms in the NFL. Probably one of the 5-10 strongest in NFL history.

 

[LKP]

He threw it backshoulder on purpose. And it was PI. Great throw. Fuller is 6'2. Jennings is a midget 5'8. Yes you throw it backshoulder on purpose.

 

[Mitchrapp]

At least we always have the injury excuse. If we don't win playoffs we have the backup play of the "injury excuse." Isn't anyone else getting tired of that..Every team has injuries, ours aren't any worse than the rest.

And you can talk about Matt not reading progressions because he doesn't have time, it happens..probably a lot. But when he does have time he doesn't do much better. That's why he's average, that's why Romo, who some put in the same category as Matt, is way better. That's why he has one good game (all Matt) followed by 2 bad ones (OLINE's fault and injuries).

Just more excuses.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

He threw it backshoulder on purpose. And it was PI. Great throw. Fuller is 6'2. Jennings is a midget 5'8. Yes you throw it backshoulder on purpose.

You are just flat WRONG about that.

Just........fucking........wrong.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

At least we always have the injury excuse. If we don't win playoffs we have the backup play of the "injury excuse." Isn't anyone else getting tired of that..Every team has injuries, ours aren't any worse than the rest.

And you can talk about Matt not reading progressions because he doesn't have time, it happens..probably a lot. But when he does have time he doesn't do much better. That's why he's average, that's why Romo, who some put in the same category as Matt, is way better. That's why he has one good game (all Matt) followed by 2 bad ones (OLINE's fault and injuries).

Just more excuses.

Eh.......Romo has done nothing with a remarkable amount of talent around him. He had something last year that Matthew Stafford has never had.....a line and a running game.

Staff needs to take it to the next level, no doubt, but Romo is just NOT "way better" than Stafford.

 

[LKP]

At least we always have the injury excuse. If we don't win playoffs we have the backup play of the "injury excuse." Isn't anyone else getting tired of that..Every team has injuries, ours aren't any worse than the rest.

And you can talk about Matt not reading progressions because he doesn't have time, it happens..probably a lot. But when he does have time he doesn't do much better. That's why he's average, that's why Romo, who some put in the same category as Matt, is way better. That's why he has one good game (all Matt) followed by 2 bad ones (OLINE's fault and injuries).

Just more excuses.

The Lions have been worse many years. We were middle of the pack last year but it was concentrated on Oline(Reiff, Warford, Waddle/Hilliard, Sims playing hurt early) which hurts individual play. Packers for example were extremely healthy last year. Way healthier than Detroit.

2012 and 2013 very bad and costly injuries to important players. And it cost us the playoffs. Some was 1st and 2nd string injuries which doesn't matter then. Then you have guys off the street. 22*2=44+3 specialists=47. Only 6 spots for 3rd string at that point. When Delmas, Spievey, Lacey, Bentley, Carey, Florence all go down, there is nobody left in 2012. 2013 Quin and Houston injuries were huge (playing hurt and out), Mathis missed some, Slay missed some, Delmas not the same after injuries and couldn't practice. Concentrated injuries hit the Lions hard in secondary and weapons.

Typically when Detroit would play someone, the other team would be healthier in 2012 and 2013 and many times in 2014.

 

[LKP]

You are just flat WRONG about that.

Just........fucking........wrong.

Fuller is 6'2. Jennings 5'8. That is the ball your throw on that play. I am right.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Eh.......Romo has done nothing with a remarkable amount of talent around him. He had something last year that Matthew Stafford has never had.....a line and a running game.

Staff needs to take it to the next level, no doubt, but Romo is just NOT "way better" than Stafford.

More excuses. Every year Romo gets it done. Sure he makes some stupid throws at the wrong time..what about 2013? Wasn't that the year our OL rated well? Our OLINE is only bad when Matt does poorly. When Matt does well it was Matt in spite of the OLINE.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

More excuses. Every year Romo gets it done. Sure he makes some stupid throws at the wrong time..what about 2013? Wasn't that the year our OL rated well? Our OLINE is only bad when Matt does poorly. When Matt does well it was Matt in spite of the OLINE.

gets what done???

8-8???

The 4 years total before this year he was 25-28!

Yeah.....he really kills it!!

 

[LKP]

More excuses. Every year Romo gets it done. Sure he makes some stupid throws at the wrong time..what about 2013? Wasn't that the year our OL rated well? Our OLINE is only bad when Matt does poorly. When Matt does well it was Matt in spite of the OLINE.

Matt was 6th in TDs, 6th in 3rd down convserion % and 6th in first down passes thrown in 2013. He had ok run support not good or great (4 YPC). 6 bad rushing games (no Waddle/Bush) and unlike Romo (Matt had to deal with a ton of injuries to his receiving weapons (Calvin fingers/knee missed 2 games, 2 others limited, Burleson for 7, Broyles with Kris Durham as depth).

Stafford>Romo is the game tape answer.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Fuller is 6'2. Jennings 5'8. That is the ball your throw on that play. I am right.

You throw a jump ball to a WR who has his man beat by 5 yards on a 9 route???

That just makes you an idiot.

Height does NOT play a part in that particular throw. Bad throw. You, as usual, are wrong.

But, you already know that.

 

[LKP]

You throw a jump ball to a WR who has his man beat by 5 yards on a 9 route???

That just makes you an idiot.

Height does NOT play a part in that particular throw. Bad throw. You, as usual, are wrong.

But, you already know that.

When he threw it, Fuller didn't have him beat like that. It was a fine throw and a great decision. Should have been PI. Lions won the game and Stafford made other good plays in the game. 3 FG attempts and a TD drive in the second half.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

When he threw it, Fuller didn't have him beat like that. It was a fine throw and a great decision. Should have been PI. Lions won the game and Stafford made other good plays in the game. 3 FG attempts and a TD drive in the second half.

Nobody was arguing any other points. You add those in when you know you were wrong.

It's ok to say Stafford missed a throw. Everyone misses throws. Brady. Manning. Rodgers. It happens. He missed that throw.

On to the next play.

 

[brewer229]

Wow. This thread hurts. Threw it like that on purpose. Can't believe I read that. Always knew the guy who claims to "review the tape" couldn't diagnose a simple play on tape. This proves it. LKP probably has never watched a whole game in his life.

Seems like a select few think our best chance is to hope for a penalty. I would much rather take it out of the officials hands and just make a damn play.

 

[Mitchrapp]

gets what done???

8-8???

The 4 years total before this year he was 25-28!

Yeah.....he really kills it!!

Look at his numbers..we have a better team than Dallas I can see that. But they have the better offense. And especially the better QB. No one looks at stats when it doesn't support what you're trying to say.

Maybe if Matt had a few more top tens..maybe completion %, YPA, Rating etc. he'd be better. Just saying, his numbers say he's average.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Look at his numbers..we have a better team than Dallas I can see that. But they have the better offense. And especially the better QB. No one looks at stats when it doesn't support what you're trying to say.

Maybe if Matt had a few more top tens..maybe completion %, YPA, Rating etc. he'd be better.

25-28 over a 4 YEAR stretch with all that talent.

You made a point he "gets it done" every year.

What exactly does he get done?

0-3 in "win and in" games......DONE

sub .500 4 year stretch......DONE

You can say he had a better year......and I won't argue with that. Romo is the ARod of football. Lot's of numbers.......little to show for it. Not good enough, himself, to make teams better.

 

[LKP]

Nobody was arguing any other points. You add those in when you know you were wrong.

It's ok to say Stafford missed a throw. Everyone misses throws. Brady. Manning. Rodgers. It happens. He missed that throw.

On to the next play.

He didn't miss the throw. He threw it on purpose. Should have been PI. I explained the heigh difference. Throws like that are made all the time in the NFL.