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Americans ' Distaste for both Trump and Clinton is record breaking

...I suspect the far more impactful form of racism is in this covert range of maybe aware, maybe unaware bias, which you can't easily separate from similar decisions made by people with little to no bias.

All in the Family Lionel Moves Into the Neighborhood (S1, E8) Mar 2 1971

SPOILER ALERT:

Archie and several neighbors learn that a black family is moving into the neighborhood, unaware that it is the Jeffersons. Lionel finds out about the effort to purchase the Jeffersons' new house and gets Archie to reveal his plans.

While Archie is a bigot, he nevertheless had been friendly with Lionel for a number of years in the show's back story.
 
When I was laid up from the Achilles surgery I found a cable channel that showed

Sanford & Son
All in the Family
Maude
Barney Miller
Diff'rent Strokes

I binge watched the hell out of some of those shows that I'd watched as a kid. Barney Miller was definitely interesting ..lots of social commentary

Same with Maude. Bea Arthur ...lol
 
but their role is as bad guy whereas Carroll O'Connor as Archie Bunker (and his wife Edith) was supposed to be the endearing protagonist

I haven't watched that show in years, and the last times I saw it, I was too young to get any nuance of the characters.

I've heard the opposite though, that Archie Bunker's character was not intended to be an endorsement of his views, but more of a caricature of the type. but as with all media, individual people take what they want from it.

I'm amazed sometimes by how I can watch something with family members and have a completely different reaction or come to completely different conclusion about it than they do.
 
I haven't watched that show in years, and the last times I saw it, I was too young to get any nuance of the characters.

I've heard the opposite though, that Archie Bunker's character was not intended to be an endorsement of his views, but more of a caricature of the type. but as with all media, individual people take what they want from it.

I'm amazed sometimes by how I can watch something with family members and have a completely different reaction or come to completely different conclusion about it than they do.


http://www.cnet.com/news/research-conservatives-believe-colbert-isnt-joking/
 
I haven't watched that show in years, and the last times I saw it, I was too young to get any nuance of the characters.

I've heard the opposite though, that Archie Bunker's character was not intended to be an endorsement of his views, but more of a caricature of the type. but as with all media, individual people take what they want from it.

I'm amazed sometimes by how I can watch something with family members and have a completely different reaction or come to completely different conclusion about it than they do.

I think the character was supposed to be a caricature but so too was 'Meathead' - rob Reiner - the lefty hippie boyfriend of the daughter. And George Jefferson was the old school black guy while his son was engaged in the civil rights movement.

On one episode of Maude, she insisted that her housekeeper - the actress/mom from ______ -- use the front door to show how un racist she was but in the end, black or white, a housekeeper is more comfortable coming/going out the back door.

In the context of 1974 or whatever, that would be a bit edgy
 
I totally forgot George Jefferson was on that show.

man, I don't care what anybody says, the 70's were a pretty damn cool decade.
 
I totally forgot George Jefferson was on that show.

man, I don't care what anybody says, the 70's were a pretty damn cool decade.

I just noticed that also. I have a retro channel and there are several appearances by George Jefferson. One of them he is drinking in a bar with Archie.:cheers:
Some great viewing in the 70's and 80's. Sanford and son is on as well from time to time. Absolutely hilarious!
 
When I was laid up from the Achilles surgery I found a cable channel that showed

Sanford & Son
All in the Family
Maude
Barney Miller
Diff'rent Strokes

I binge watched the hell out of some of those shows that I'd watched as a kid. Barney Miller was definitely interesting ..lots of social commentary

Same with Maude. Bea Arthur ...lol

TV Land possibly. The one I have has Barney Miller, Taxi, All in the Family , Good Times, Sanford and Son and Family Ties. The first few seasons of family ties are fantastic. The "Andrew" character single-handedly ruined that show in the last few seasons. Id never watched Barney Miller before until recently. Not a big fan but something new I havent seen.
 
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I grew up with all this shows, and the darn moon landings!!!

What the heck where are all of our space based in the solar system? . All kidding aside the tv back in the 1970's was something.
 
I just noticed that also. I have a retro channel and there are several appearances by George Jefferson. One of them he is drinking in a bar with Archie.:cheers

This is that scene.

It is possibly the most hilarious and simultaneously poignant piece of television in the history of...well, television, I guess.

EDIT: Oh sorry, I forgot...the scene starts @ 15:00
 
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This is that scene.

It is possibly the most hilarious and simultaneously poignant piece of television in the history of...well, television, I guess.

EDIT: Oh sorry, I forgot...the scene starts @ 15:00

Georges mom is such a great character, manipulative, underhanded and passive aggressive.:lmao:

There is also another where Archie is bartending and Jefferson is there. I thought he just drove a cab.
 
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This is that scene.

It is possibly the most hilarious and simultaneously poignant piece of television in the history of...well, television, I guess.

EDIT: Oh sorry, I forgot...the scene starts @ 15:00

This needs to be archived as a national treasure. Thanks for sharing that.
 
it's all pandering!

there was an article i read a couple months ago that details how Trump is basically following some Right-wing political strategist's playbook. I can't remember the guy's name, but the article says it's the same one Buchanan tried to follow in '92 & '96, but didn't quite have the stones to go all-in on the white-nationalism like Trump has. nor was Buchanan willing to make a clown of himself for media coverage.

The article is really worth reading, edit: but i cant fucking find it now!

basically the thinking is: fuck the GOP Establishment; all the things important to them: tax cuts for the wealthy, anti-regulation, cutting social security, free trade agreements, outsourcing jobs, cutting disability benefits, and social welfare... none of those things actually appeal to their voting base, who are the middle-and-lower class whites who have lost jobs and income due to pursuing those policies since Nixon was in the WhiteHouse. all those things are actually contrary their interests. and fuck the GOP Establishment for being foolish enough to convince themselves otherwise. What a candidate needs to do is point out the avg. white working man is poor, is screwed by the big corporations, and what not. he needs to admit it! and he needs to blame someone the avg. GOP voter can get enthusiastic about hating: minorities and foreigners.

Trump has simply followed the playbook to perfection. It is 1930's white nationalist populism; old-school fascism. The only difference between Trump and earlier generations is that he has twitter.

He's essentially done nothing but follow the playbook. he's never held office before, never governed anything, laid no groundwork for a political coalition, done no public service or organizing. Trump's actual domestic and foreign policies will be made up as needed. he had no agenda coming in.

LOL - that is just awesome, throwing in public service and "organizing" legitimizing community organizer experience as valid preparation for the role of POTUS. That's somehow ore more valuable to being the top executive than running a multi-billion dollar enterprise. That's cute.
 
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LOL - that is just awesome, throwing in public service and "organizing" legitimizing community organizer experience as valid preparation for the role of POTUS. That's somehow ore more valuable to being the top executive than running a multi-billion dollar enterprise. That's cute.

whoa, whoa, whoa... I guess Trump's business career could be a topic for a whole other thread, but you seem to be implying he was good at it, or at least a competent executive. you are, apparently, woefully ignorant of his history.
 
On one episode of Maude, she insisted that her housekeeper - the actress/mom from ______ -- use the front door to show how un racist she was but in the end, black or white, a housekeeper is more comfortable coming/going out the back door.

In the context of 1974 or whatever, that would be a bit edgy

Why did you leave it blank? Esther Rolle-Florida-Good Times was another All in the Family spinoff via Maude.
 
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TV Land possibly. The one I have has Barney Miller, Taxi, All in the Family , Good Times, Sanford and Son and Family Ties. The first few seasons of family ties are fantastic. The "Andrew" character single-handedly ruined that show in the last few seasons. Id never watched Barney Miller before until recently. Not a big fan but something new I havent seen.

I remember watching Barney Miller as a kid. i must have been 2 or 3, but its one of my earliest TV memories.

the only episode i remember is the one where they arrest a guy who claims to be Jesus. i also had a bass line in my for years, and couldnt remember where it was from, until, through youtube, I heard the Barney Miller theme. badass.

I don't remember much else about the show. I should watch it again.
 
Why did you leave it blank? Esther Rolle-Florida-Good Times was another All in the Family spinoff via Maude.

lol, I meant to fill in the blank with Good Times when the name came to me but hit POST instead, I guess.

Esther Rolle and John Amos ...Jimmie Walker
 
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