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[tinselwolverine]

3rd and 21 - whats the market on a coversion?

1 over a whole lot.

You kinda got a post a question like that on the Michigan board for anyone to know what you?re talking about.

 

[JScottWriter]

They weren't even trying to score and the defense was trying to let him in.

 

[Spartanmack]

michigan is gonna hit the over by themselves

 

[gotime909]

this defense is worse than lewerke.

Definitely not good enough to overcome shoddy qb play that's for sure.

 

[tinselwolverine]

michigan is gonna hit the over by themselves

What?s the current market on that?

 

[Spartanmack]

1 over a whole lot.

You kinda got a post a question like that on the Michigan board for anyone to know what you?re talking about.

most of the people over there dont know what that means and altho you do, you got the answer wrong - by a lot. its 1 over a number slighly greater than 1.

 

[Spartanmack]

Definitely not good enough to overcome shoddy qb play that's for sure.

like with illinois, lewerke isnt costing us this game. that is indisputable.

 

[SpartyNash]

Why is Lewerke still playing?

 

[gotime909]

like with illinois, lewerke isnt costing us this game. that is indisputable.

Is it not clear that this team has quit bud? This defense hasn't always been bad like this. It's mostly the same defense from last year's very good defense. Lewerke however has never been better than a meh qb his entire career.

 

[Spartanmack]

Is it not clear that this team has quit bud? This defense hasn't always been bad like this. It's mostly the same defense from last year's very good defense. Lewerke however has never been better than a meh qb his entire career.

so its also lewerke's fault that the defense has quit? thats awesome. so now in addition to the things he can control, hes responsible for all the drops, receivers that can't get separation when theyre not dropping balls, a line that can't run or pass block, even when they trip him on his drop back AND a defense that cant stop anyone.

this team has sucked for his entire career and you're blaming him for that.

and if this defense has quit, they did in week one because our secondary has been dog shit since the opening kick.

 

[tinselwolverine]

most of the people over there dont know what that means and altho you do, you got the answer wrong - by a lot. its 1 over a number slighly greater than 1.

But...did I really?

The quantification between ?slightly? and ?whole lot? is pretty subjective.

For example, if we quantify a whole lot being 1 over a million, and we quantify slightly greater than one as being 10, you are exactly and specifically correct. I was wrong, and I missed it by a lot.

 

[gotime909]

I'm not turning another thread into this same dumb discussion. You're obviously the only one on this forum with a hard on for this below average qb.

I'm also not saying he's always the reason we lose. But he's always a big part of it.

 

[Spartanmack]

What?s the current market on that?

its getting smaller as they take their foot off the gas.

 

[LuciousGameWinner]

So do we have a shot at Fickell? Is Dantonio going to leave or no?

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm not turning another thread into this same dumb discussion. You're obviously the only one on this forum with a hard on for this below average qb.

I'm also not saying he's always the reason we lose. But he's always a big part of it.

youre putting words in my mouth. im not high on lewerke, im jist not going to blame him for things that aren't his fault.

Michigan has 44 points, is 8 of 13 on 3rd down with exactly 1 punt on roughly the same time of possession. lewerke has a couple bad throws on his own but has been rushed all day long and we have had no running game. how big of a part did lewerke play in this one?

 

[Spartanmack]

So do we have a shot at Fickell? Is Dantonio going to leave or no?

i know his little brother pretty well - we worked at the same hedge fund in NY for about 4 years and watched a lot of college football together b4 he moved back to columbus to start his own biz. we stayed at his house for the OSU game and i asked him if he thought he would be interested. he said he hadnt talked to him about other B1G jobs but he'd be really surprised if he took one bc he thinks he would always want the OSU option open. plus he has 6 young kids and his wife likes Cinci.

I hope hes wrong but it wont matter for at least another year. Dantonio would have to be an idiot to turn down $4mm at 63 years young when the AD said his job is not in jeopardy. and who knows, in another year, he may be more willing to relocate with his last move further behind him.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Why would any Spartan fan want Dantonio to leave?

Look at what happened to Michigan when Lloyd Carr retired/was forced out.

Dantonio is the best thing that happened to the Spartan’s since Duffy Dority.

It’s crazy.

 

[Spartanmack]

But...did I really?

The quantification between ?slightly? and ?whole lot? is pretty subjective.

For example, if we quantify a whole lot being 1 over a million, and we quantify slightly greater than one as being 10, you are exactly and specifically correct. I was wrong, and I missed it by a lot.

you'd have to make a pretty egregiously low quantification of a whole lot before youre market could be considered correct. and for the record, by "slightly above" i was thinking something between 1.0001 and 4.

 

[tinselwolverine]

you'd have to make a pretty egregiously low quantification of a whole lot before youre market could be considered correct. and for the record, by "slightly above" i was thinking something between 1.0001 and 4.

Okay.

There were two different quantifications that came into the discussion on different posts.

One was converting a first down on third and 21, the other, the probability that the over/under would be covered as over.

I was referring to the probability that the third and 21 would be converted. A look at the post that I quoted would verify that.

#Post 21.

As far as the over under, I would agree, at that point in the process, the probability was it was probably one only against a little bit more than one.

 

[gotime909]

Why would any Spartan fan want Dantonio to leave?

Look at what happened to Michigan when Lloyd Carr retired/was forced out.

Dantonio is the best thing that happened to the Spartan?s since Duffy Dority.

It?s crazy.

I dont. I'm not gonna go nuts over one bad group of players.