BBWAA do not elect any player to HOF

[kalinecountry]

Biggio closest at 68%
Morris 67.7%
Trammell 33.6%
http://bbwaa.com/
bullshit

 

[Mitchrapp]

I figured 35% for Tram so I was close. There are just too many voters who don't vote, not because of not being worthy but just because..

 

[uofmpoweri]

Wow, how does Biggio not get in. 3000 hits isn't a magic number anymore? Is he tainted? What am I missing?

 

[Mitchrapp]

No idea either, he also had a shit load of doubles..

 

[kalinecountry]

Biggio all time righty batter in doubles,

clemens 37.6%
bonds 36.2%

 

[thehippo73]

Wow, how does Biggio not get in. 3000 hits isn't a magic number anymore? Is he tainted? What am I missing?

It is only a 1st ballot issue. If you look at all the guys who got in on the1st ballot, Biggio doesn't belong in that group.

I'm not saying it's right but just the way it is.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It is only a 1st ballot issue. If you look at all the guys who got in on the1st ballot, Biggio doesn't belong in that group.

I'm not saying it's right but just the way it is.

Makes no sense at all. "Yeah you deserve it but we're all too anal to vote for you the first time". Lol.

Fact is, he got near 70%, if he can get that many first time through why not more?

 

[thehippo73]

Makes no sense at all. "Yeah you deserve it but we're all too anal to vote for you the first time". Lol.

Fact is, he got near 70%, if he can get that many first time through why not more?

Look at the list. Biggio is not in that group. I agree he shouldn't have gotten in. 1st ballot election is reserved for the elite of the hall of fame.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofstat.shtml

 

[uofmpoweri]

Look at the list. Biggio is not in that group. I agree he shouldn't have gotten in. 1st ballot election is reserved for the elite of the hall of fame.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofstat.shtml

Every other player with 3000 hits, other than Palmerio and Rose, got in on the first ballot. I have no problem putting Biggio in the same class as Yount.

 

[tomdalton22]

If Tram isn't in why should Biggio get in?

 

[thehippo73]

Not every great player makes it on the first ballot. Joe DiMaggio didn't get in on the first time. I would have voted for Biggio but I completely understand him not making it the first time.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Dude, if guys like Ozzie can get 90% 1st time Biggio should get in.

And Tom, because Tram didn't get 3000 hits.

 

[pr0tege]

And what is bad is next season Maddux, Glavine, Thomas and Kent get added to the ballot.

 

[thehippo73]

Every other player with 3000 hits, other than Palmerio and Rose, got in on the first ballot. I have no problem putting Biggio in the same class as Yount.

Eddie Collins is another 3000 hit guy who wasn't a first ballot guy. It happens.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Bottom line is, if you think a guy is worthy, really worthy why are they waiting a year? Or two? "Oh yeah, he's hall worthy but lets make him wait" Lol.

 

[thehippo73]

Bottom line is, if you think a guy is worthy, really worthy why are they waiting a year? Or two? "Oh yeah, he's hall worthy but lets make him wait" Lol.

While I agree it is asinine, I completely understand reserving something special for the truly greats of the game.

If they could do a star system and eliminate 1st ballot nonsense, it would be great. But to say Biggio belongs in the same class as Ruth or Mays is not right.

 

[uofmpoweri]

Bottom line is, if you think a guy is worthy, really worthy why are they waiting a year? Or two? "Oh yeah, he's hall worthy but lets make him wait" Lol.

It's a bunch of pompous sports writers having their little power trips. Sports writers are irrelevant any other time. No one needs to read about sports now that every game is televised. If this didn't stroke their nerdy egos it wouldn't be happening.

 

[Mitchrapp]

They had this little chat live on ESPN and Jason Starks said you just never know who was clean and who wasn't. So I brought up Tram and McGuire as examples and he still held "you just never know". If that's their thinking no one will ever get in..

 

[Mitchrapp]

While I agree it is asinine, I completely understand reserving something special for the truly greats of the game.

If they could do a star system and eliminate 1st ballot nonsense, it would be great. But to say Biggio belongs in the same class as Ruth or Mays is not right.

So no one should ever be a 1st HOF because they can't match up with Ruth and Mays?

 

[tomdalton22]

Dude, if guys like Ozzie can get 90% 1st time Biggio should get in.

And Tom, because Tram didn't get 3000 hits.

Career .281 hitter in a hitters era. Compare Tram in his era and they are pretty equal.