controversial call?

[zyxt9]

yeah, just have a guy upstairs review everything except balls/strikes (however, HBP or foul tips can be reviewed). no need for managers to have limited challenges. speeds game up by removing right of manager to go out and argue calls too. even if an ump makes call favorable to the D, a pitcher could try to throw the next pitch quickly but batter has right to step out of box and give review ump more time to get call right, so unlike football where QB hurries to the line and gets the snap before replay can rule, the team that desires more time for ump to review a call can easily provide a slight delay in the game. i just don't think replay will cause any noticeable slowing down of the game, and actually can speed it up by taking away players and managers right to argue calls and delay games by 5+ minutes. if they do, immediately toss them and a big fine will stop such behavior in a hurry.

 

[Mitchrapp]

yeah, just have a guy upstairs review everything except balls/strikes (however, HBP or foul tips can be reviewed). no need for managers to have limited challenges. speeds game up by removing right of manager to go out and argue calls too. even if an ump makes call favorable to the D, a pitcher could try to throw the next pitch quickly but batter has right to step out of box and give review ump more time to get call right, so unlike football where QB hurries to the line and gets the snap before replay can rule, the team that desires more time for ump to review a call can easily provide a slight delay in the game. i just don't think replay will cause any noticeable slowing down of the game, and actually can speed it up by taking away players and managers right to argue calls and delay games by 5+ minutes. if they do, immediately toss them and a big fine will stop such behavior in a hurry.

You're kidding me, right? HBP and Foul tips? How about check swings? How about an infield fly rule, make sure the IF reasonably made the catch. How about a hit ball down the line, balk? Stolen bases, batter interference? I could go on and on because there's a bunch more stuff. Shoe string catch in the outfield? See if a runner tagged up too early?

Baseball doesn't need this.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I just saw this, lol.

5: Ejections for Joe Girardi this season -- four have come against the Tigers. Apparently the Tigers bring out the worse in him.

 

[@Stakesarehigh]

much like sunday seems like sometimes manager wait to do the bulk of their arguing until the inning is over. Girardi may have held the game up all of one minute the other day.

I have no idea the numbers on avg delay in coaches arguing per game but I'd guess it's less than two minutes. Replaying foul tips? Um yea....you're looking 3.5-4 hr games just for a normal average scoring 9 inning game.

 

[beez]

Game one was the Cano groundout with the bases loaded. It looked like a tie to me on the play at 1st base. It was a close call, but you see that called out as often as you see it called safe even if a tie is supposed to go to the runner.

The Infante call was terrible, but it's not like it would have helped the Yankees score any runs. I hope a call goes against them tomorrow night and Verlander shuts them out. The complaining is good if it keeps them from making any adjustments that might help them score a single run off a Tiger pitcher not named Valaverde.

This series wont go 6 games.

thats a made up rule..there is no such thing as tie goes to the runner.

 

[beez]

Also Girardi in an interview last year said baseball is a rythm game and replay would slow it down too much..etc

Now he wants it...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...quit crying.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The Yankees got enough BS calls their way over the years, no one gives a shit Girardi.

 

[Thumb]

thats a made up rule..there is no such thing as tie goes to the runner.

This.

You're either safe, or out. There are no ties, and the Umpire has to decide. The 'tie goes to the runner' thing has been around forever, but never in Major League Baseball.

 

[byco42]

No umpire ever considers the possibility of a "tie" when making a close call at a base.

 

[mjsb2]

thats a made up rule..there is no such thing as tie goes to the runner.

The rule is actually tie goes to the pitcher.

The rule states the runner must beat the throw to the bag in order to be safe.

A tie is not beating the throw, therefore, in the event of a tie, the runner is out.

 

[mjsb2]

The idea that replay would slow down the game to the point where it even impacts the rhytm of the game is simply ignorant.

I have yet to see one replay where I couldn't tell within 10 seconds what the right call was.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The idea that replay would slow down the game to the point where it even impacts the rhytm of the game is simply ignorant.

I have yet to see one replay where I couldn't tell within 10 seconds what the right call was.

Doesn't mean they know within 10 seconds and its not about that anyway. Its about what should be used in replay, limit or replay all?

 

[byco42]

The rule is actually tie goes to the pitcher.

The rule states the runner must beat the throw to the bag in order to be safe.

A tie is not beating the throw, therefore, in the event of a tie, the runner is out.

Actually, the way that rule 6.05 is written. a "tie" would go to a runner, if there was such a thing. There is not. It is assumed that the runner is either safe or out depending on whether "first base is tagged before he touches first base."

 

[Thumb]

Doesn't mean they know within 10 seconds and its not about that anyway. Its about what should be used in replay, limit or replay all?

Nope, would be way more then 10 seconds, because once they decide to review something they will look at it from all available angles, plus in slow-mo and superslow-mo.

The NFL is already stupid for reviewing every single scoring play, nothing kills the buzz of your team scoring like having to wait over a minute for it to be confirmed.

 

[@Stakesarehigh]

agreed that the replay process would not be so perfect that it would not add length to a game.


not that I think it will happen but those who want unlimited replay are not taking into account all of the factors here imo.

I think most lie in the "wanting more IR in a limited form" segment tho.

 

[beez]

The rule is actually tie goes to the pitcher.

The rule states the runner must beat the throw to the bag in order to be safe.

A tie is not beating the throw, therefore, in the event of a tie, the runner is out.

False...there is another rule in the book that says the throw must beat the runner..I belive it's rule 7.1 or something like that.

 

[beez]

Whats the difference..how can baseball justify allowing a manager to parade around for 5 minutes cursing and belittling a game official, making a jackass out of himself, but say replay would slow the game down?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Whats the difference..how can baseball justify allowing a manager to parade around for 5 minutes cursing and belittling a game official, making a jackass out of himself, but say replay would slow the game down?

Follow the conversation, it won't hurt ya ;-) Its not about replay but what to replay. You can't stop the game and have a replay on everything but strikes and balls. And can you really let the Managers control it? I think most of us would be okay with a limit on replay.

 

[Thumb]

Follow the conversation, it won't hurt ya ;-) Its not about replay but what to replay. You can't stop the game and have a replay on everything but strikes and balls. And can you really let the Managers control it? I think most of us would be okay with a limit on replay.

What if each manager got 1 challenge per 9 innings?

Then they would have to be careful about when to use it, and if they didn't on a specific call or had already used it when a possible game altering call might have been close, they would have nobody to blame but themselves.

 

[Mitchrapp]

What if each manager got 1 challenge per 9 innings?

Then they would have to be careful about when to use it, and if they didn't on a specific call or had already used it when a possible game altering call might have been close, they would have nobody to blame but themselves.

I don't know. Either that or just have an ump up high who will look at all plays and just change the ones that are obvious but that is still interpretation. So I could see Managers arguing on those too.