Cooter is good

[tomdalton22]

I'm not saying broadcast it, but if Stafford keeps playing well that phone is going to ring. You're the brand spanking new GM this is your first major decision. Someone gives you a Godfather offer. What do you do? Tough call for the new guy.

exactly...you don't have to broadcast it...just "leak" that you would be willing to listen.

 

[adam86107]

I don't think we trade Stafford. He's really shown that he's got what it takes to be an elite QB. Really all he is lacking is consistency, I don't think a few games is a large enough sample size to be considered consistent.

 

[tomdalton22]

I don't think we trade Stafford. He's really shown that he's got what it takes to be an elite QB. Really all he is lacking is consistency, I don't think a few games is a large enough sample size to be considered consistent.

He has shown what it takes to be an elite QB????

 

[brewer229]

This has been Stafford his entire career. Play great a few games against horrible defenses and all of sudden people are talking about how he has it.

Nothing has changed. It's great to see good play, but 7+ years has shown there is no reason to hope this level will continue for anything more then a few games.

Cooter has a good simple plan, it helps the QB is seeing the wide open guys, makes the coordinater look smarter. But its been against bottom of the barrel defenses. The offense wasnt even great against Oakland to be honest.

 

[mhughes0021]

Theres a lot of money out there to be had. How many different "bring back cooter", "we want cooter", "cooter for president", "time for a healthy dose of cooter" tshirts and hats could we make?

 

[tomdalton22]

Theres a lot of money out there to be had. How many different "bring back cooter", "we want cooter", "cooter for president", "time for a healthy dose of cooter" tshirts and hats could we make?

From what I hear, Stafford LOVES cooter. When he first took over...my thoughts were "cooter stinks"..."sloppy cooter". But after that pounding yesterday...I love cooter. If I ran into cooter today I think I would fist bump cooter!

 

[LKP]

Stafford with time and run game is always a great lions day

5 more to go

 

[zyxt9]

They need to give t-shirts to the Eagles D that reads "We Got Pounded By Cooter!"

Maybe the Lions can wear shirts saying "Our Cooter Just Fucked You Raw!"

 

[cmlfactor]

I think one really good game against a bad defense and two 18 point games (one aided by a safety) is too early to tell if Cooter is the long term OC answer. Although I will say Stafford has looked better (limiting turnovers mainly) and the run game has looked better.

We'll see how they do the next two weeks: 2nd time around vs. GB (if Cooter can make some adjustments that kept them from scoring more at Lambeau) and against a very good Rams defense on the road, then maybe we'll have our answer.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Theres a lot of money out there to be had. How many different "bring back cooter", "we want cooter", "cooter for president", "time for a healthy dose of cooter" tshirts and hats could we make?

You're forgetting the (blank) LOVES COOTER!!! franchise.

Megatron Loves Cooter!
Stafford Loves Cooter!
Tate Loves Cooter!
Caldwell Loves Cooter!

Or my favorite - Johnson Loves Cooter!!! (same as Megatron.....but.....well.....with Johnson)

Could you even imagine what would happen if we hired Dick LeBeau as head coach???

Dick Loves Cooter!!! - we could revive the entire city of Detroit with that one!!!

 

[tomdalton22]

You're forgetting the (blank) LOVES COOTER!!! franchise.

Megatron Loves Cooter!
Stafford Loves Cooter!
Tate Loves Cooter!
Caldwell Loves Cooter!

Or my favorite - Johnson Loves Cooter!!! (same as Megatron.....but.....well.....with Johnson)

Could you even imagine what would happen if we hired Dick LeBeau as head coach???

Dick Loves Cooter!!! - we could revive the entire city of Detroit with that one!!!

some more T shirt ideas

"finger that cooter!"

picture of him with a beard

"shave that cooter"

picture of him fishing

"cooter smells like fish"

 

[Mitchrapp]

I think one really good game against a bad defense and two 18 point games (one aided by a safety) is too early to tell if Cooter is the long term OC answer. Although I will say Stafford has looked better (limiting turnovers mainly) and the run game has looked better.

We'll see how they do the next two weeks: 2nd time around vs. GB (if Cooter can make some adjustments that kept them from scoring more at Lambeau) and against a very good Rams defense on the road, then maybe we'll have our answer.

They're probably all gone anyway, regardless. GM's like their own HC, and HC's like their own coordinators.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If the Lions decide to stick with Caldwell, it would not be as rare of a decision as you may think. FootballPerspective.com did a comprehensive study from 1995 to 2013 of general manager changes and the status of the coaches they inherited. Of the 95 general manager hirings during that time, just about half (45) retained the coaches in place. In fact, of those 45 coaches, 32 of them survived their initial season with the new GM for a second year.

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2015/11/27/9807226/will-jim-caldwell-survive-the-front-office-change

It's about a 50/50 shot that coaches are kept with a new GM since 1995.

Okay, thanks. Curious, were any of the new GM's listed already with the team in another capacity?

 

[tomdalton22]

If the Lions decide to stick with Caldwell, it would not be as rare of a decision as you may think. FootballPerspective.com did a comprehensive study from 1995 to 2013 of general manager changes and the status of the coaches they inherited. Of the 95 general manager hirings during that time, just about half (45) retained the coaches in place. In fact, of those 45 coaches, 32 of them survived their initial season with the new GM for a second year.

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2015/11/27/9807226/will-jim-caldwell-survive-the-front-office-change

It's about a 50/50 shot that coaches are kept with a new GM since 1995.

It's a smart move. If the team doesn't get better in year one, the new GM gives himself some more time by firing the previous coach AFTER the first year he is in charge.

 

[Mitchrapp]

So keeping Caldwell would be a smart move by the new GM? I don't see that unless they have a miracle finish this season.

Agree, 3 wins and all that they're still 4 and 7.

 

[inkfreq]

Agree, 3 wins and all that they're still 4 and 7.

But, then you have the Martha factor. If she didn't believe in Caldwell to some extent, he would have been fired when the purge happened.

Either that, or he has one hell of a large buyout on his remaining years and she doesn't want to just eat it.

My guess is he's with us 1 more year at least. Kind of reminds me of when Mayhew wanted to fire Schwartz, but WCFII wouldn't let him because of the contract.

Mayhew's last gift to us may be being stuck with a coach whether we like it or not for financial reasons.

 

[Mitchrapp]

But, then you have the Martha factor. If she didn't believe in Caldwell to some extent, he would have been fired when the purge happened.

Either that, or he has one hell of a large buyout on his remaining years and she doesn't want to just eat it.

My guess is he's with us 1 more year at least. Kind of reminds me of when Mayhew wanted to fire Schwartz, but WCFII wouldn't let him because of the contract.

Mayhew's last gift to us may be being stuck with a coach whether we like it or not for financial reasons.

Not necessarily there was no one to promote. Cooter a 2nd time? Our DC?

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Not necessarily there was no one to promote. Cooter a 2nd time? Our DC?

Yes.....our DC.

Damn it Martha........make it happen.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Yes.....our DC.

Damn it Martha........make it happen.

Then who's our next DC? If anyone believes Austin is getting the job done with this group why not continue to let him be a DC. At least during the current season.

 

[inkfreq]

Not necessarily there was no one to promote. Cooter a 2nd time? Our DC?

When it comes time to fire someone, there are always available options. No company has ever not fired a failing employee because they didn't have a viable immediate replacement.

If you feel the guy is detrimental to your company, you fire him before he can do more damage. You fire the coach before he gets an expensive long term investment like Calvin Johnson or Matt Stafford injured.

We're not just talking about the wife who inherited the team. We're talking about a woman who grew up in boardrooms spoonfed the fundamentals of business by the time she took her first steps. She knows how to run a company and showed that by firing Mayhew and Lewand (and according to some reports, many many other people who's names weren't important enough to make the headlines).

She either believes he's a good coach who can turn this team into a championship team, or he's too expensive to fire right now.

According to Coaches Hot Seat, he's the 27th highest pain coach in the NFL, but that still comes at a price tag of $4Mm per year, and he's only in the 2nd year of his 4 year contract.

http://coacheshotseat.com/NFLCoachesSalaries.htm

To fire him now during the purge (love that, I'm just going to call it The Purge from now on) you would eat $10Mm while having to find a new coach and likely pay him even more, making your head coaches position more expensive than Sean Payton at $8Mm a year.

My guess is Caldwell is here in 2016, and then maybe fired after 2017 if the improvement isn't there. Almost all of these coaches have a buyout clause in the contract, so when the buyout becomes less expensive than the contract, you pull the trigger.

Only in the most dire of circumstances would he be fired during the season due to the money, and likely it would take a catastrophe of epic proportions to get him fired before year 3 was up.