Coronainsanity

[Gulo Blue]

And the vaccine, IMO, was brought out way too hastily.

It is wild that this entirely new type of vaccine was approved for use so quickly. And it's a shame that regulation has been politicized to the point that we can't universally have more faith in our regulatory agencies.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm also concerned by the early reports of athletes with cardiomyopathy that we may have a long term rise in heart issues caused by undiagnosed damage to people that never knew they had covid.

This outlier isn?t new with Covid - it?s always been an outlier with upper respiratory infections.

Pretty much always goes away.

No reason to think it?s going to be any different with Covid then it?s always been with influenza or any other upper respiratory infection.

 

[byco42]

Bill Gates has if all planned out. But look at all the airplanes and trucks he's going to need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJtblo12UxI

Highlights:

Testing 20% of the "entire" population every week
Vaccines, Vaccines, Vaccines, made possible through the MRNA method. But ... is it safe? .

Now I know that this person (see link) is not with CNN or other credible and reliable news outlets. Just some person who wants to think for themselves.

Besides, the CDC says:

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have gone through the same rigorous safety assessment as all vaccines before they were authorized for use in the United States by the Food and Drug Administration. This includes large clinical trials and data review by a safety monitoring board.

Often patients are concerned about live vaccines. mRNA vaccines are not live vaccines and do not use an infectious element, so they carry no risk of causing disease in the person vaccinated.​

However, here are some comments from harvard.edu on mRNA vaccines on an article with this claim in it:

"Injection of RNA presents no risk of disrupting the cell’s natural DNA sequence.”

Ultimately, we’re talking about mingling something foreign with our DNA. I can’t see how this could end well.

Is there a chance of autoimmune reaction as the body continues to attack the ‘foreign’ spike being produced by it’s own cells?

Since the proteins will be synthesized in the host, how then will the immune system “decide” that these proteins are non-self and should be destroyed?

Is it not possible for mRNA to cause epigenetic changes to DNA? Is it not possible for such changes to trigger production of entirely unexpected cellular proteins with unpredictable long term sequelae (aftereffect)?

How accurate is the mRNA material in the vaccine to consistently represent the COVID protein versus some other unrelated protein ?

Are the scholars sure what happens to mRNA when it is no longer needed?

Nature must have a feedback loop to tell DNA to stop making endogenous mRNA. Surely some of the expired mRNA switches off its own production in some way? The danger is in how that happens. What if part chains of expired mRNA are reabsorbed into the nucleus, bind back onto DNA and cause epigenetic change? That could cause oncogenesis?​

 

[Gulo Blue]

This outlier isn?t new with Covid - it?s always been an outlier with upper respiratory infections.

Pretty much always goes away.

No reason to think it?s going to be any different with Covid then it?s always been with influenza or any other upper respiratory infection.

That's some good news.

 

[byco42]

It is wild that this entirely new type of vaccine was approved for use so quickly. And it's a shame that regulation has been politicized to the point that we can't universally have more faith in our regulatory agencies.

Well the avalanche of justification on the internet suggests that we just do it faster now.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Testing 20% of the "entire" population every week

He says 'megatesting' platforms can be rolled out quickly - so I think he means in reaction to an outbreak, not all the time.

 

[tomdalton22]

Well the avalanche of justification on the internet suggests that we just do it faster now.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-did-we-develop-a-covid-19-vaccine-so-quickly

 

[byco42]

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-did-we-develop-a-covid-19-vaccine-so-quickly

I know there is legion of information on this topic of COVID 19 being fast, safe, and here. Funny thing is that it is all one single story repeated over and over again.

mRNA
They had already started this
It's not the first one
Everyone worked together now
AND lots of different companies were making their own

That's the narrative.

 

[tomdalton22]

I know there is legion of information on this topic of COVID 19 being fast, safe, and here. Funny thing is that it is all one single story repeated over and over again.

mRNA
They had already started this
It's not the first one
Everyone worked together now
AND lots of different companies were making their own

That's the narrative.

so, it couldn't be true?

 

[byco42]

He says 'megatesting' platforms can be rolled out quickly - so I think he means in reaction to an outbreak, not all the time.

Why not just test the world's entire population every five weeks and quarantine the POSers?

 

[byco42]

so, it couldn't be true?

Maybe, but its the narrative that brooks no challenges. I mean, the vaccine has been circulating for all of three months and the experts say its awesome, but has some side effects.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Why not just test the world's entire population every five weeks and quarantine the POSers?

Cost? Capacity? Testing is cheaper than than a pandemic, but still expensive. Developing testing capability that could be rolled out at the first sign of potential trouble would be worth it.

I wonder what the plan and limitations are. How feasible is 20%

 

[byco42]

Cost? Capacity? Testing is cheaper than than a pandemic, but still expensive. Developing testing capability that could be rolled out at the first sign of potential trouble would be worth it.

I wonder what the plan and limitations are. How feasible is 20%

Bill says it would be inexpensive. I wonder how he knows that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Bill says it would be inexpensive. I wonder how he knows that.

I suspect he's tried to estimate what it would take to do it. In his 2005 video, I think he say something about preparation seeming expensive out of context, but inexpensive in comparison to the cost of a pandemic.

FYI, I'm halfway through his climate change book. Nothing about population reduction, but he has mentioned planning for when it's 10 billion.

 

[byco42]

I suspect he's tried to estimate what it would take to do it. In his 2005 video, I think he say something about preparation seeming expensive out of context, but inexpensive in comparison to the cost of a pandemic.

FYI, I'm halfway through his climate change book. Nothing about population reduction, but he has mentioned planning for when it's 10 billion.

Who put Bill in charge of planning population?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Who put Bill in charge of planning population?

Planning for infrastructure needs to support that many.

 

[Spartanmack]

Bill says it would be inexpensive. I wonder how he knows that.

He also said if we don't completely eliminate greenhouse gases by 2050, the global catastrophe from climate change will be 5x worse than the pandemic. Equatorial areas will be unlivable and we will have climate migration on a massive scale - he also said the migration from the Syrian civil war was somewhat weather dependent. No to mention his comments on synthetic beef already discussed. It's getting hard to tell what to take seriously from Bill these days, let alone how he knows these things well enough to put those numbers on them.

 

[Gulo Blue]

He also said if we don't completely eliminate greenhouse gases by 2050, the global catastrophe from climate change will be 5x worse than the pandemic. Equatorial areas will be unlivable and we will have climate migration on a massive scale - he also said the migration from the Syrian civil war was somewhat weather dependent. No to mention his comments on synthetic beef already discussed. It's getting hard to tell what to take seriously from Bill these days, let alone how he knows these things well enough to put those numbers on them.

He's not the first to say drought played a role in Syria.

He knows these things because he talks to, reads books by, and hires experts in these fields. Like with the impressively accurate covid forecasting.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Here it is as a comic from 2014:

https://yearsoflivingdangerously.tu...comic-was-produced-in-partnership-by-years-of

 

[Spartanmack]

He's not the first to say drought played a role in Syria.

He knows these things because he talks to, reads books by, and hires experts in these fields. Like with the impressively accurate covid forecasting.

Nobody said he was the first. Books and peer reviewed research papers don?t validate quackery. Climate change isn?t why these people are killing each other en masse or why noncombatants are fleeing the ruins of their pulverized cities.