Coronainsanity

[Spartanmack]

Here it is as a comic from 2014:

https://yearsoflivingdangerously.tu...comic-was-produced-in-partnership-by-years-of

Is it a comic book or a graphic novel?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Is it a comic book or a graphic novel?

Important question. Might influence if there's going to be a movie.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Nobody said he was the first. Books and peer reviewed research papers don?t validate quackery. Climate change isn?t why these people are killing each other en masse or why noncombatants are fleeing the ruins of their pulverized cities.

"He's not the first..." was intended to convey that I've heard this idea before.

Not that it's THE cause of war or anything, but that it fueled migration and terrible conditions.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Important question. Might influence if there's going to be a movie.

Should it really, though?

Movies are made based on both.

 

[Spartanmack]

Important question. Might influence if there's going to be a movie.

More importantly, it would make it easier for some to recognize that it's a work of fiction.

 

[Spartanmack]

"He's not the first..." was intended to convey that I've heard this idea before.

Not that it's THE cause of war or anything, but that it fueled migration and terrible conditions.

I know that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I know that.

"Nobody said he was the first." is a weird way to convey that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

More importantly, it would make it easier for some to recognize that it's a work of fiction.

You think the numbers about the drought are completely fake because it includes pictures or because you don't like that they blamed the drought on climate change?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/150302-syria-war-climate-change-drought

But their report, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, compiled statistics showing that water shortages in the Fertile Crescent in Syria, Iraq, and Turkey killed livestock, drove up food prices, sickened children, and forced 1.5 million rural residents to the outskirts of Syria's jam-packed cities?just as that country was exploding with immigrants from the Iraq war.

 

[Spartanmack]

"Nobody said he was the first." is a weird way to convey that.

?Nobody said he was the first? was an appropriate response to you saying ?he?s not the first guy to say drought played a role...?

 

[Gulo Blue]

?Nobody said he was the first? was an appropriate response to you saying ?he?s not the first guy to say drought played a role...?

You said you understood that that meant I'd heard of this idea before and your response is ?Nobody said he was the first?. What are you trying to say about me hearing the idea before?

This is one of those really simple things I don't understand unless you explain it to me.

 

[byco42]

He's not the first to say drought played a role in Syria.

He knows these things because he talks to, reads books by, and hires experts in these fields. Like with the impressively accurate covid forecasting.

Are you talking about his TED Talk in 2015?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Are you talking about his TED Talk in 2015?

I'm talking about IHME, who made the website I used through this entire thing when I discussed projections. He gave them $279 million over 10 years.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/global

 

[Gulo Blue]

FYI, Gate's book chapter I read last night talked about the need to increase global food production by 70%. Not a whiff of population control talk.

 

[byco42]

FYI, Gate's book chapter I read last night talked about the need to increase global food production by 70%. Not a whiff of population control talk.

Well, he?s covered that topic many times in other discussions.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Well, he?s covered that topic many times in other discussions.

True, but last time we talked about it, I disagreed with your read on what he was saying. And now, I'm reading a lengthy description of what he thinks we need to do, as opposed to a few lines out of a talk, and with things more fleshed out, I still think he was describing population forecasts and problems, not advocating population reduction for the sake of population reduction.

 

[byco42]

True, but last time we talked about it, I disagreed with your read on what he was saying. And now, I'm reading a lengthy description of what he thinks we need to do, as opposed to a few lines out of a talk, and with things more fleshed out, I still think he was describing population forecasts and problems, not advocating population reduction for the sake of population reduction.

Bill wants fewer people in the world, by his own words. And that declaration was the entire talk.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Bill wants fewer people in the world, by his own words. And that declaration was the entire talk.

I disagree, and the proof lies in the fact that he has the means to do something about it, but instead he keeps doing things that increase the population.

He's saved a lot of lives.

 

[Gulo Blue]

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/832336758356455424

"This is the most beautiful chart in the world"

 

[byco42]

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/832336758356455424

"This is the most beautiful chart in the world"

Babies in the womb are also under the age of 5. So that chart is incomplete.

 

[byco42]

I disagree, and the proof lies in the fact that he has the means to do something about it, but instead he keeps doing things that increase the population.

He's saved a lot of lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozlbeXrb_5A

Bill thinks that poorer nations are having too many kids, because they don’t have access to contraception. Or, ultimately, abortion. The “tools” he alludes to. Bill is concerned that the kids being born are a burden on those older than themselves, and fewer of them is a good thing for everyone involved. The population density in Niger, one of his targeted countries where things could become “impossible” is 17 people per square kilometer.

Here’s an idea for Bill. Just take care of whoever is born in Niger, rather than preventing the event. Care for the babies that are being born. Recommend other natural methods of “spacing out” births. They are highly effective.

He thinks the worlds’ population is at a “manageable” size of 2.1 kids, with his tell-tale smirk. @ 1:42.

1:05 “What we need to do ...” to the end. *chills* and not the good ones.