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Coronainsanity

Does anyone else think it's insane that Cuomo apparently got a pass for shipping old people back into nursing homes where COVID killed them off by the thousands, then taking a huge check from the private equity firms that owned those death traps, in exchange for ramming through a bill to immunize them from lawsuits for their gross negligence & reckless disregard for the people in their care... but he's only getting in trouble NOW for being handsy and creepy with a dozen or so women over the last decade?

Sign of how deeply corrupt and sociopathic the people and institutions that govern our nation are. It's almost like they want us to know that it's okay for the authorities to kill us... or make decisions without caring about the consequences... that they have that right, and they will fight to preserve that right.

Similar to the things they went after Trump for... open and corrupt double-dealing by him and he sleazy relations was okay. they only impeached him over dubious allegations each time where the people who may have been harmed were other scumbags, or special interests, but NOT the American people as a whole.
 
yes, it's extremely shady that Cuomo, Murphy and Whitmer all seem to be getting off scot free for killing all those old people by forcing nursing homes to take COVID patients.
 
I'm not sure that this pass is free or that the story is over. It kind of looks like the dems don't want the bad covid PR, so they're investigating his sexual history as a way to bury this story and give him the boot.

I mean it's crazy, but I think it fits the NCAA/politics analogy. It's all PR driven. Cuomo is a USC. Old political connections, but not in the right place and not recent enough to keep him bulletproof.
 
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Spartanmack said:
yes, it's extremely shady that Cuomo, Murphy and Whitmer all seem to be getting off scot free for killing all those old people by forcing nursing homes to take COVID patients.
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I know Cuomo did. And that he (and DeBlasio) did a very poor job managing the pandemic.

What did Murphy and Whitmer do?

I got the sense Whitmer tried to do the right thing, but faced significant opposition from Republicans, and gun nut/anti-vaxx retards that kept showing up and threatening her, and conspiring to murder her and other elected officials. That's not really arguable...

It's clear now that no where in the country really "locked down"... in every state pro-business lobbies and recalcitrant COVID deniers undermined those efforts.

Locking the door doesn't work if you leave the window open.

And I don't know what it's like in NY/NJ now, but Texas has been more or less open for business for MONTHS. Fewer people eating out and going about their business as usual is entirely due to people taking personal precautions, not due to state action.
 
michchamp said:
It's clear now that no where in the country really "locked down"... in every state pro-business lobbies and recalcitrant COVID deniers undermined those efforts.
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I've still got FB friends complaining about how scientists said it was only supposed to be for 2 weeks.
 
Gulo Blue said:
I've still got FB friends complaining about how scientists said it was only supposed to be for 2 weeks.
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It's amazing how confident some people were discussing this, despite having no idea what they were talking about, and beyond that, just a total lack of logic on how germs spread, and how or why or what we should do about it.

I saw another comment somewhere that the fact this country couldn't come together against a virus that was making us sick and killing us was an ominous sign.
 
michchamp said:
I know Cuomo did. And that he (and DeBlasio) did a very poor job managing the pandemic.

What did Murphy and Whitmer do?

I got the sense Whitmer tried to do the right thing, but faced significant opposition from Republicans, and gun nut/anti-vaxx retards that kept showing up and threatening her, and conspiring to murder her and other elected officials. That's not really arguable...

It's clear now that no where in the country really "locked down"... in every state pro-business lobbies and recalcitrant COVID deniers undermined those efforts.

Locking the door doesn't work if you leave the window open.

And I don't know what it's like in NY/NJ now, but Texas has been more or less open for business for MONTHS. Fewer people eating out and going about their business as usual is entirely due to people taking personal precautions, not due to state action.
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Murphy did whatever Cuomo did a day later. It was like he was governing based off of headlines out of New York. I thought I heard Whitmer did the same with nursing homes. I don't recall any gun nuts barring entry to nursing homes in Michigan to keep the COVID patients out.

So based on what you've seen in Texas, it sounds like you CAN count on people to make sensible decisions for themselves...
 
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michchamp said:
I know Cuomo did. And that he (and DeBlasio) did a very poor job managing the pandemic.

What did Murphy and Whitmer do?

I got the sense Whitmer tried to do the right thing, but faced significant opposition from Republicans, and gun nut/anti-vaxx retards that kept showing up and threatening her, and conspiring to murder her and other elected officials. That's not really arguable...

It's clear now that no where in the country really "locked down"... in every state pro-business lobbies and recalcitrant COVID deniers undermined those efforts.

Locking the door doesn't work if you leave the window open.

And I don't know what it's like in NY/NJ now, but Texas has been more or less open for business for MONTHS. Fewer people eating out and going about their business as usual is entirely due to people taking personal precautions, not due to state action.
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That?s what I did.

I ignored the the nonsense imposed by the state as much as I could, and did what made sense, based on what the science was revealing, instead.
 
Spartanmack said:
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So based on what you've seen in Texas, it sounds like you CAN count on people to make sensible decisions for themselves...
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right.

I think that's the only saving grace in this country right now... there are still enough educated/sane people walking around to keep things from completely devolving into chaos.

all our public institutions/domestic government have been gutted and are no longer functional. The CDC, and FDA are both incompetent, and serve mainly to keep the money spigot flowing to the biggest health insurers and drug makers. Public health at all levels of government has been forced to take a back seat to corporate interests.
 
michchamp said:
right.

I think that's the only saving grace in this country right now... there are still enough educated/sane people walking around to keep things from completely devolving into chaos.
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I can hope that this will apply to climate and conservation issues, but with regard to threats posed by AI, I'm not sure there are enough.
 
tigermud said:
He?s still one of my favs

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/i...s-fauci-over-science-behind-multi-mask-mayhem
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I think the message is paternalistic due to how we've reacted so far. Vaccinated people might be able to spread covid in some cases, but it's rare. There's some news from Israel on that front. But I think the main reason they're still saying people need to mask up is all the jackasses that aren't vaccinated and won't wear a mask the second they can plausibly lie and say they are or hope people will assume they are vaccinated.

It's bad. It's unamerican. But I don't blame them. If I was asked to say what I thought, and there was an element of uncertainty involved, and I thought more people would die if I gave my full opinion and fewer people would die if I just said, 'there's still some uncertainty, keep wearing your mask', I might feel an obligation to do the same thing. Because jackasses like Rand Paul are out there pushing in the opposite direction.
 
We're on the downswing, but there are still 1,100 dying a day in the US and it's projected to take 2 months to get that number down to 500 a day. Mask wearing and distancing are still important. In 3 months, provided we don't develop a particularly nasty variant, covid should be killing at a rate that will drop it to around the #7 most common cause of death. By then, I suspect the push to get back to normal will shift popular behavior away from mask wearing. Not that the numbers have much to do with perception, but by then there should be more than half of us vaccinated.
 
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