Coronainsanity

[Gulo Blue]

There is zero reason to trust those in positions of so called expert scientific positions.

Depends on the expert scientific position. Have you ever paid a doctor for their opinion?

 

[tigermud]

https://nationalfile.com/fauci-and-...nward-spiral-as-their-misdeeds-come-to-light/

Odds of there being any real accountability though slim to none

 

[Gulo Blue]

https://nationalfile.com/fauci-and-...nward-spiral-as-their-misdeeds-come-to-light/

Odds of there being any real accountability though slim to none

'eh. Trump will probably have to pay some back taxes and they'll call it square.

 

[tigermud]

Depends on the expert scientific position. Have you ever paid a doctor for their opinion?

Sure for their diagnosis then I research natural remedies and ditch the prescription slips. Once had asthma, failed the breathing tests badly. Don?t anymore, pass the same test with flying colors without ever going on the meds prescribed

 

[tigermud]

'eh. Trump will probably have to pay some back taxes and they'll call it square.

Fully expect him to get swat teamed roger stone style for theater purposes. It?ll only inflame, entrench and further divide. China wins in the end on the countries current path.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Sure for their diagnosis then I research natural remedies and ditch the prescription slips. Once had asthma failed the breathing tests badly. Don?t anymore and pass the same test with flying colors without ever going on the meds prescribed

So you trust the scientist up to the point there's a financial incentive to push drugs. But up to that point, you seek out the expert opinion.

There's no money in pushing homemade masks or staying home...unless...Netflix is behind all of it!

 

[tinselwolverine]

This is all fantasy... do you think we live in China? Singapore? You think we're capable of managing the sort of regime that protects some people while letting everyone else go about their business?

We had a president openly undermining his own health officials, telling people this was nothing to worry about, holding public rallies to say that, health officials giving conflicting advice that was NOT based on scientific study (like Fauci's double take on masks), while his cabinet members ran around trying to profit off the pandemic.

We have governors that sent old people to die with no political consequences, because that's what the hedge funds that run nursing home conglomerates wanted, along with immunizing them from lawsuits, the only recourse people who lost parents and grandparents had... you think that would have gone unnoticed in China? Hell no. Cuomo and all the frauds that pushed that policy would be in jail already.

A significant part of the population swallowed all the president's nonsense hook, line and sinker... were they going to stay home and avoid eating in restaurants, going to church, etc. if they got sick?

We see the death rates and illness rates in hindsight; again, these would have been worse had we not had masks, and shutdowns in order to slow the spread & hospitalizations. How many people recovered because they were able to get into a hospital, but wouldn't have if this was spreading like wildfire through churches, bars, restaurants, etc.?

And dying wasn't the only bad outcome... getting sick was no picnic, but all accounts of people I know who had it - not "High risk" individuals either! In most cases they had a full week of being too sick to do anything but lay in bed wishing they would die, and still had trouble breathing weeks after recovering. I'm worried in some cases the trouble breathing is due to lung damage that will plague them for years. Had we not closed things like we did and this spread through workplaces, restaurants, bars, etc. it would've shut down the country anyways.

You guys are just wrong about this.

It is a novel virus; we still don't know a lot about it; it's not like getting over the flu (like the same people were claiming in March 2020), and therefore when dealing with an unknown, the proper response is MORE caution, not less.

I can't believe this still needs to be said.

Right.

You?re kind of making my point.

Why would we trust anything ?flip flop Faucci? has to say about anything?

 

[tigermud]

So you trust the scientist up to the point there's a financial incentive to push drugs. But up to that point, you seek out the expert opinion.

There's no money in pushing homemade masks or staying home...unless...Netflix is behind all of it!

there's a lot of money to be made keeping people sick and dependent. The gumbit is paying out billions in tax payer monies for the vaccines. Billions in revs now that everyone will be demanded to get a yearly vaccine.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Right.

You?re kind of making my point.

Why would we trust anything ?flip flop Faucci? has to say about anything?

Because out of a set of 2.5 million published immunology citations from 1980 to 2021, Faucci is the 9th most commonly cited person.

 

[Gulo Blue]

there's a lot of money to be made keeping people sick and dependent. The gumbit is paying out billions in tax payer monies for the vaccines. Billions in revs now that everyone will be demanded to get a yearly vaccine.

You don't need covid for that. Just push cheeseburgers.

 

[tigermud]

You don't need covid for that. Just push cheeseburgers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chi...-early-samples-of-new-coronavirus-2020-5?op=1

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55454146

https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...g/news-story/e290b19533817fd277a16f8ad9be12fb

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ive-win-China-Australian-journalist-says.html

https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/the-five-on-john-cena-apology-to-china-covid-origins

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/r...alth-bomber-real-challenge-us-military-186171

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nLXZ--OKBxSZzqZn46o6SfqrdXCcopNCCC--fMyYfwWF0

China is a clear and present danger and Fraudi helped fund their gain of function. Anyone remember Hong Kong protest that conveniently resolved itself for China thanks to covid. Anyone think they aren't planning to take back Twain next? Anyone think the world will do a damn thing about it now that trump is out of the way? Anyone really think we aren't the final prize?

 

[Gulo Blue]

China is a clear and present danger and Fraudi helped fund their gain of function. Anyone remember Hong Kong protest that conveniently resolved itself for China thanks to covid. Anyone think they aren't planning to take back Twain next? Anyone think the world will do a damn thing about it now that trump is out of the way? Anyone really think we aren't the final prize.

Trump couldn't do anything to help, and wouldn't even if he could.

 

[tigermud]

Trump couldn't do anything to help, and wouldn't even if he could.

go back to sleep blue

 

[Michchamp]

There is zero reason to trust those in positions of so called expert scientific positions.

except Trump, right?

 

[Michchamp]

Sure for their diagnosis then I research natural remedies and ditch the prescription slips. Once had asthma, failed the breathing tests badly. Don?t anymore, pass the same test with flying colors without ever going on the meds prescribed

trepanning cured your asthma

 

[Gulo Blue]

go back to sleep blue

are you calling me woke?

 

[tinselwolverine]

This is all fantasy... do you think we live in China? Singapore? You think we're capable of managing the sort of regime that protects some people while letting everyone else go about their business?

We had a president openly undermining his own health officials, telling people this was nothing to worry about, holding public rallies to say that, health officials giving conflicting advice that was NOT based on scientific study (like Fauci's double take on masks), while his cabinet members ran around trying to profit off the pandemic.

We have governors that sent old people to die with no political consequences, because that's what the hedge funds that run nursing home conglomerates wanted, along with immunizing them from lawsuits, the only recourse people who lost parents and grandparents had... you think that would have gone unnoticed in China? Hell no. Cuomo and all the frauds that pushed that policy would be in jail already.

A significant part of the population swallowed all the president's nonsense hook, line and sinker... were they going to stay home and avoid eating in restaurants, going to church, etc. if they got sick?

We see the death rates and illness rates in hindsight; again, these would have been worse had we not had masks, and shutdowns in order to slow the spread & hospitalizations. How many people recovered because they were able to get into a hospital, but wouldn't have if this was spreading like wildfire through churches, bars, restaurants, etc.?

And dying wasn't the only bad outcome... getting sick was no picnic, but all accounts of people I know who had it - not "High risk" individuals either! In most cases they had a full week of being too sick to do anything but lay in bed wishing they would die, and still had trouble breathing weeks after recovering. I'm worried in some cases the trouble breathing is due to lung damage that will plague them for years. Had we not closed things like we did and this spread through workplaces, restaurants, bars, etc. it would've shut down the country anyways.

You guys are just wrong about this.

It is a novel virus; we still don't know a lot about it; it's not like getting over the flu (like the same people were claiming in March 2020), and therefore when dealing with an unknown, the proper response is MORE caution, not less.

I can't believe this still needs to be said.

Hmmmm...it seems counterintuitive that anyone invested in elder care facilities, hedge fund or conglomerate or whatever, would be able to continue to profit off a patient/resident once that person is dead.

It?s not like a restaurant where turnover increases profitability - the next warm breathing body - assuming there?s even one at the ready - won?t bring in any more money than the last stiff did.

It seem like intentionally killing old people would be a zero sum game at best.

 

[Spartanmack]

except Trump, right?

Just like Gavin Newsome, Andrew Cuomo, Gretchen Whitmer, etc, etc, Trump didn't hold any positions where scientific expertise is required or even presumed..

 

[Gulo Blue]

It seem like intentionally killing old people would be a zero sum game at best.

One thing I learned here is that they were going to die anyway and they were just mislabeled for a payout. Probably double or triple counted too. That's how the total number of deaths went up. Probably classified people according to how likely they were going to get caught overcounting and mislabeling and then bundled the comorbidity claims into collateralized cause of death obligations that could be borrowed against as if they were high probability covid deaths.

 

[tigermud]

except Trump, right?

Trump is not a so called expert scientist. reading comprehension issues again?