Coronainsanity

[tigermud]

Lord fruadchi

Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) took a victory lap on Wednesday following the release of a trove of emails to and from Dr. Anthony Fauci showing him to be a total fraud.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Lord fruadchi

Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) took a victory lap on Wednesday following the release of a trove of emails to and from Dr. Anthony Fauci showing him to be a total fraud.

I did a search engine search for rand Paul victory lap and a search for Fauci emails. There are a lot of entries about the emails; not really much about rand Paul victory lap. What are you talking about? Can you provide a link to what you?re talking about?

 

[tigermud]

I did a search engine search for rand Paul victory lap and a search for Fauci emails. There are a lot of entries about the emails; not really much about rand Paul victory lap. What are you talking about? Can you provide a link to what you?re talking about?

You know where it is, do you really have to ask?

 

[tinselwolverine]

You know where it is, do you really have to ask?

I obviously don?t know where it. If I did I wouldn?t ask.

Oh, wait, InfoWars?

Anything that?s true will also be published somewhere else.

That doesn?t mean info wars is never right ? but when it?s right you can find that news elsewhere.

 

[byco42]

I obviously don?t know where it. If I did I wouldn?t ask.

Oh, wait, InfoWars?

Anything that?s true will also be published somewhere else.

That doesn?t mean info wars is never right ? but when it?s right you can find that news elsewhere.

One link of a legion. The disparate news outlets will interpret as required by their bosses and sponsors.

"Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection.

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

Fauci, 2/20/2020, in an email to Sylvia Burwell.

 

[sggatecl]

One link of a legion. The disparate news outlets will interpret as required by their bosses and sponsors.

"Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection.

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

Fauci, 2/20/2020, in an email to Sylvia Burwell.

Does this make him a fraud or does it show someone that changed an opinion as he understood the situation better? Why would we want someone in charge of aiding public health doubling down on incorrect information?

And I thought it was generally common knowledge that those paper masks were bare minimum protection, essentially a ticket to get into a place of business and/or for the peace of mind of others around you. Arguments about what they do/don't stop aside, those masks don't fit most people properly. If it wasn't a two-layer fabric with a removable filter in the middle, and a bendable nose to fit properly, I wouldn't wear it.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm pretty sure most reasonable people understand that wearing the masks are to protect others, not protect yourself. It seems that is exactly what Fauci said from the beginning.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Does this make him a fraud or does it show someone that changed an opinion as he understood the situation better? Why would we want someone in charge of aiding public health doubling down on incorrect information?

And I thought it was generally common knowledge that those paper masks were bare minimum protection, essentially a ticket to get into a place of business and/or for the peace of mind of others around you. Arguments about what they do/don't stop aside, those masks don't fit most people properly. If it wasn't a two-layer fabric with a removable filter in the middle, and a bendable nose to fit properly, I wouldn't wear it.

No.

This is why people are calling him that.

Up until it was no longer possible to conceal - which is pretty much just now, Faucci would obfuscate on even the possibility that his organization - the NIH - even had a remote connection with funding the Wuhan lab.

Primarily.

He also lied about the likelihood of asymptomatic spread, which helped contribute to the I will call it morally criminal shut down of schools; things of that nature.

 

[sggatecl]

No.

This is why people are calling him that.

Up until it was no longer possible to conceal - which is pretty much just now, Faucci would obfuscate on even the possibility that his organization - the NIH - even had a remote connection with funding the Wuhan lab.

Did he deny (up until now) that they had contributed ANY funding or was he always specific about 'gain of function' funding? Whether he's lying or not, I don't know, I just think it's a clarification worth making.

He also lied about the likelihood of asymptomatic spread, which helped contribute to the I will call it morally criminal shut down of schools; things of that nature.

That's a tough call because presymptomatic carriers and asymptomatic carriers have a 2-14 day window where they exhibit the same lack of symptoms and as far as I'm aware, there is no way to distinguish between the two. (Our son's kindergarten teacher has MS and recovered from colon cancer last year, I imagine without online learning she'd have been out of a job and my kid would have missed out on her tremendous experience as a teacher).

 

[tinselwolverine]

Driving now. When I stop I?ll look for the specific email about asymptomatic spread.

 

[Spartanmack]

No.

This is why people are calling him that.

Up until it was no longer possible to conceal - which is pretty much just now, Faucci would obfuscate on even the possibility that his organization - the NIH - even had a remote connection with funding the Wuhan lab.

Primarily.

He also lied about the likelihood of asymptomatic spread, which helped contribute to the I will call it morally criminal shut down of schools; things of that nature.

and, according to some Drs at Johns Hopkins University, his CDC is currently ignoring data on natural immunity, pushing imprudent one-size-fits-all vaccination policy. He also continues to refute even the possibility that the SARS-COV-2 was developed in a lab when some researchers are saying there are no credible natural ancestors for the virus. It's amazing how many times this guy can dance around questions or lie right to our faces and the knee jerk reaction is to label everything a conspiracy theory or personal attack against the good Dr. It's hard to believe the people covering this are the same folks that reported on Russian collusion/election interference story.

 

[Spartanmack]

Did he deny (up until now) that they had contributed ANY funding or was he always specific about 'gain of function' funding? Whether he's lying or not, I don't know, I just think it's a clarification worth making.



That's a tough call because presymptomatic carriers and asymptomatic carriers have a 2-14 day window where they exhibit the same lack of symptoms and as far as I'm aware, there is no way to distinguish between the two. (Our son's kindergarten teacher has MS and recovered from colon cancer last year, I imagine without online learning she'd have been out of a job and my kid would have missed out on her tremendous experience as a teacher).

the ADA and union (assuming she is a public school teacher) would most definitely prevent her from being jobless due to her illnesses. Anecdotes aside, it's not a very tough call to say that K-12 public education, particularly 2-8 this year has been a lost year and the vast majority of students and teachers would have been fine with in-person full day instruction with minimal manageable accommodations. And from what I've read, the data that indicates this has been known long enough to have had kids in school for most if not all of the academic year.

Every single Catholic and private school I'm aware of around us was in-person full day from the very beginning of the school year with few if any disruptions due to the virus. And those disruptions were small (affecting a kid or two, or maybe a classroom at most). We heard about kids testing positive and having to go virtual for 2 weeks or possibly their classroom but I'm not aware of a single instance where an entire school was shut down for any length of time because of an outbreak.

 

[tigermud]

One link of a legion. The disparate news outlets will interpret as required by their bosses and sponsors.

"Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection.

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

Fauci, 2/20/2020, in an email to Sylvia Burwell.

I do agree with one thing he said. Our society is in fact totally nuts

 

[tigermud]

The doctor who thanked Dr. Fauci for dismissing the Wuhan lab leak theory is the same guy who gave $600k to the lab, ?investigated? it for the WHO and then acted as a Facebook fact checker censoring info on the Wuhan lab leak theory

You couldn?t make this up.

https://youtu.be/ZFntTtPgpEU

 

[tinselwolverine]

Driving now. When I stop I?ll look for the specific email about asymptomatic spread.

Okay that e-mail is here.

 

[tigermud]

https://youtu.be/yp6btJhS66c

 

[Spartanmack]

The doctor who thanked Dr. Fauci for dismissing the Wuhan lab leak theory is the same guy who gave $600k to the lab, ?investigated? it for the WHO and then acted as a Facebook fact checker censoring info on the Wuhan lab leak theory

You couldn?t make this up.

well, who would know better than him, right?

 

[byco42]

Does this make him a fraud or does it show someone that changed an opinion as he understood the situation better?

He clearly understands that paper masks are insufficient to prevent the spread or the contraction of COVID. It was axiomatic, in fact. With his extensive background as an immunologist backing his understanding. It's why he said it initially. Why he reversed his position, only he knows.

Why would we want someone in charge of aiding public health doubling down on incorrect information?

Fauci has no training or experience as a public health official. Nor any credentials in field of public health. Yet, he became the "de facto public health spokesperson for the office of the president."

 

[tinselwolverine]

He clearly understands that paper masks are insufficient to prevent the spread or the contraction of COVID. It was axiomatic, in fact. With his extensive background as an immunologist backing his understanding. It's why he said it initially. Why he reversed his position, only he knows.



Fauci has no training or experience as a public health official. Nor any credentials in field of public health. Yet, he became the "de facto public health spokesperson for the office of the president."

He reversed his position because Trump - who was wrong about everything, even when he wasn?t - referred to a CDC study that demonstrated the efficacy of masks was questionable at best.

And that was all she wrote.

Faucci jumped the ?orange man bad? - there, I said it - express like a bat jumping the Dracula coach racing back to the castle with Van Helsing on its heels.

 

[Thumb]

You couldn?t make this up.

Sure you could.

After all, the Kraken keeps telling people it's possible for Donald Trump to be re-instated and force Biden to move out of the White House!

Also, Alex Jones is known to make stuff up often enough he gets sued over it.