Coronainsanity

[Michchamp]

Many NBA players refusing vax

#hope

you hope what?

the other 90% will get un-vaccinated?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Many NBA players refusing vax

#hope

Kareem wants a vaccine mandate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZzUFbRQL4k

That said, he himself is in a risk category by virtue of his age.

 

[tigermud]

you hope what?

the other 90% will get un-vaccinated?

That they continue to stand their ground in the face of incredible odds and not comply with the medical tyranny. :spin:

It?s a shame so many America?s don?t resist this tyranny, nation of sheep, USA not leading the charge on this one..sad

https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth...^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.infowars.com/

It?s just a 10 day quarantine at the camp, you?ll be back home in no time, please sir it?s for everyone?s protection. Do the right thing and protect others, it?s what Jesus would do, yes second box car down has room yet. Thank you for your patriotism, you?re a hero! We?re all in this together.

 

[tigermud]

I assure you all that is exactly where all this is heading if you continue to comply with each incremental inch fraudchi asks for.
All aboard the last train to quatrain depopulation camp.

A day ahead of New York?s vaccine mandate deadline, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) attended a church service, where she told Christian worshippers the vaccine had been delivered straight from God.

Speaking at a Sunday mass at the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, Hochul attempted to frame her draconian edicts as though they were ordained by God himself

We are not through this pandemic,? Hochul said.

?I wished we were, but I prayed a lot to God during this time and you know what, God did answer our prayers. He made the smartest men and women, the scientists, the doctors, the researchers ? he made them come up with a vaccine. That is from God to us and we must say, ?Thank you, God. Thank you.'?

?Yes, I know you?re vaccinated. they?re the smart ones, but you know, there are people out there who aren?t listening to god and what god wants. you know, this, you know who they are,? she stated.

?I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and talk about it and say, ?We owe this to each other. We love each other.? Jesus taught us to love one another and how do you show that love but to care about each other enough to say, ?Please get the vaccine because I love you and I want you to live? I want our kids to be safe when they?re in schools? I want to be safe when you go to a doctor?s office or to a hospital and are treated by somebody?? You don?t want to get the virus from them. You?re already sick or you wouldn?t be there.?

 

[Michchamp]

I have a hard time believing a NY gov actually said that in an evangelical church.

stranger things have happened I guess, but I googled it, and all I get are links from sites like welovetrump.com repeating the same story as eachother. no actual video or audio clips that I could find.

 

[byco42]

I have a hard time believing a NY gov actually said that in an evangelical church.

stranger things have happened I guess, but I googled it, and all I get are links from sites like welovetrump.com repeating the same story as eachother. no actual video or audio clips that I could find.

A lot of MSM outlets are reporting this, too.

 

[Michchamp]

A lot of MSM outlets are reporting this, too.

I still am not seeing that... but i'll be damned! after a page of batshit wacky sites, or half-batshit wacky sites like the WashingtonTimes, I found a brietbart link that had the actual video!

It does sound like something Pat Robertson or George W. Bush would say, but swap out "get vaccinated" for some rightwing bullshit, like "get tough on terror... by giving Halliburton $500 billion" or "a hurricane hitting North Carolina instead of South Carolina is a sign my god hates homosexuals"

I guess the problem here for you guys is she's appropriating the medium ear-marked for Right Wing pontificating for Left wing pontificating?

though I think "be smart, get vaccinated, god would want you to" is not nearly as troubling as you guys are making it out to be. Again... it's improving our individual (and collective) odds of surviving what is now the deadliest pandemic in American history.

 

[byco42]

I still am not seeing that... but i'll be damned! after a page of batshit wacky sites, or half-batshit wacky sites like the WashingtonTimes, I found a brietbart link that had the actual video!

It does sound like something Pat Robertson or George W. Bush would say, but swap out "get vaccinated" for some rightwing bullshit, like "get tough on terror... by giving Halliburton $500 billion" or "a hurricane hitting North Carolina instead of South Carolina is a sign my god hates homosexuals"

I guess the problem here for you guys is she's appropriating the medium ear-marked for Right Wing pontificating for Left wing pontificating?

though I think "be smart, get vaccinated, god would want you to" is not nearly as troubling as you guys are making it out to be. Again... it's improving our individual (and collective) odds of surviving what is now the deadliest pandemic in American history.

From the Governor?s website

So you go from ?hard to believe? to ?not nearly as troubling?. My only point us that the references to the speech are ubiquitous..

The 1918 Flu was far deadlier IMO. The US population was 103 million and that flu killed a high percentage of healthy younger people.

 

[Michchamp]

Maybe the Biden Administration would get more traction with some if they would point out that the vaccines are one of the Trump Administration's major achievements?

The media and Democrat PR flacks would have a hard time giving Trump credit

I still think that leaves out a few segments with low vaccination rates... but try other forms of outreach there.

And of course, this is not a zero sum game. that's not going to end the pandemic, but reducing the risk and severity of infection for most people is a win.

 

[Michchamp]

From the Governor?s website

So you go from ?hard to believe? to ?not nearly as troubling?. My only point us that the references to the speech are ubiquitous..

The 1918 Flu was far deadlier IMO. The US population was 103 million and that flu killed a high percentage of healthy younger people.

It's hard to believe a NY democrat would give a speech like that, has nothing to do with whether I find the speech itself troubling or not.

I think the ends justify the means, and the Left (the actual left, not synonymous with the Democratic Party) would do better if they invoked religion more often. I mean what's more Leftist than the actual teachings of Christ? The ACTUAL teachings, not what many Christians do...

 

[Spartanmack]

I still am not seeing that... but i'll be damned! after a page of batshit wacky sites, or half-batshit wacky sites like the WashingtonTimes, I found a brietbart link that had the actual video!

It does sound like something Pat Robertson or George W. Bush would say, but swap out "get vaccinated" for some rightwing bullshit, like "get tough on terror... by giving Halliburton $500 billion" or "a hurricane hitting North Carolina instead of South Carolina is a sign my god hates homosexuals"

I guess the problem here for you guys is she's appropriating the medium ear-marked for Right Wing pontificating for Left wing pontificating?

though I think "be smart, get vaccinated, god would want you to" is not nearly as troubling as you guys are making it out to be. Again... it's improving our individual (and collective) odds of surviving what is now the deadliest pandemic in American history.

it's fun watching the mental gymnastics you're contorting yourself through from
- denying she said it before even trying to verify it
- to 'I only see it on right wing websites, which proves it's made up so I'm not going to look any further'
- then to 'it's not as bad as "insert made-up Republican talking point invoking God that no one ever said" here' bullshit
- finally to 'the ends justify the means" i.e. it's ok to lie so long as it supports my left wing agenda, which is itself based entirely on lies
all in order to excuse some Democrat for saying something your hair would be on fire over and you'd race to the "Christian behaving badly" thread to scream about it if a Republican said it. You're hypocrisy is like your stupidity - limitless.

nothing if not entertaining.

 

[Michchamp]

me: taking the time to look up the source of an unsourced quote, commenting on it, and admitting my misgivings about it's truth turned out to be false

Republitard posters too lazy to do that themselves, who normally just dismiss anything they don't post out-of-hand as untrue: "Look at your mental gymnastics, soy boy!"

 

[Spartanmack]

me: taking the time to look up the source of an unsourced quote, commenting on it, and admitting my misgivings about it's truth turned out to be false

Republitard posters too lazy to do that themselves, who normally just dismiss anything they don't post out-of-hand as untrue: "Look at your mental gymnastics, soy boy!"

like I said, your hypocrisy knows no bounds. This from the guy who has proven time and again he doesn't even read the articles he posts - this could be your funniest post in months. Seriously, how many times have I read articles you posted and pointed out they don't come close to saying what you claim? I've lost count.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I have a hard time believing a NY gov actually said that in an evangelical church.

stranger things have happened I guess, but I googled it, and all I get are links from sites like welovetrump.com repeating the same story as eachother. no actual video or audio clips that I could find.

Here?s the video. I found it on YouTube in 30 seconds.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NXaP76musWM

What I don?t get is why is this so astonishing to anyone here? I don?t think this is strange at all. Politicians on both sides of aisle do shit like this for breakfast.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I assure you all that is exactly where all this is heading if you continue to comply with each incremental inch fraudchi asks for.
All aboard the last train to quatrain depopulation camp.

A day ahead of New York?s vaccine mandate deadline, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) attended a church service, where she told Christian worshippers the vaccine had been delivered straight from God.

Speaking at a Sunday mass at the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, Hochul attempted to frame her draconian edicts as though they were ordained by God himself

We are not through this pandemic,? Hochul said.

?I wished we were, but I prayed a lot to God during this time and you know what, God did answer our prayers. He made the smartest men and women, the scientists, the doctors, the researchers ? he made them come up with a vaccine. That is from God to us and we must say, ?Thank you, God. Thank you.'?

?Yes, I know you?re vaccinated. they?re the smart ones, but you know, there are people out there who aren?t listening to god and what god wants. you know, this, you know who they are,? she stated.

?I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and talk about it and say, ?We owe this to each other. We love each other.? Jesus taught us to love one another and how do you show that love but to care about each other enough to say, ?Please get the vaccine because I love you and I want you to live? I want our kids to be safe when they?re in schools? I want to be safe when you go to a doctor?s office or to a hospital and are treated by somebody?? You don?t want to get the virus from them. You?re already sick or you wouldn?t be there.?

So what? Ben Shapiro says this too.

Wow, common ground between Ben Shapiro and the Democratic Governor of New York.

If there?s a reason to shake anybody?s atheism - I can?t think of a better one!

 

[byco42]

This incremental march to compliance to mandates in general is the issue. Mandates and freedom are mutually exclusive concepts.

 

[Michchamp]

This incremental march to compliance to mandates in general is the issue. Mandates and freedom are mutually exclusive concepts.

I see enforcing mandates through corporate employment policies as more troubling & insidious than a blanket government mandate (which affects everyone equally, and can be challenged through (theoretically...) democratic process). Also less effective.

 

[byco42]

I see enforcing mandates through corporate employment policies as more troubling & insidious than a blanket government mandate (which affects everyone equally, and can be challenged through (theoretically...) democratic process). Also less effective.

I see no distinction between them, because there is a K Constant phenomenon in progress. Meaning that they influence each other?s mandates.

 

[Michchamp]

I see no distinction between them, because there is a K Constant phenomenon in progress. Meaning that they influence each other?s mandates.

You don't see a difference between "all Americans must do this," and "all employees of these corporations must do this?"

I guess the second one is less coercive, because if you have the means you can just quit your job.

Seems unfair to me though. It absolves business owners, the idle rich, and the unemployed poor/homeless. Also a bit short-sighted, since COVID doesn't care if you believe in it or not, or "need to do your own research" before getting the shot.

 

[byco42]

You don't see a difference between "all Americans must do this," and "all employees of these corporations must do this?"

Not when there is such a tight, direct confluence between corporate and government mandates on the employee.

I guess the second one is less coercive, because if you have the means you can just quit your job.

If you choose to work for another like company, what?s the point?

Seems unfair to me though. It absolves business owners, the idle rich, and the unemployed poor/homeless. Also a bit short-sighted, since COVID doesn't care if you believe in it or not, or "need to do your own research" before getting the shot.

Unsure of the point of this last statement.