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Coronainsanity

No one should pay personal income tax, let alone having it skimmed off your paycheck. You who want to serve your earthly masters may do so. Just don?t compel me to follow you.

I?ve not read this , but I have listened to this podcast ? Link
 
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byco42 said:
No one should pay personal income tax, let alone having it skimmed off your paycheck. You who want to serve your earthly masters may do so. Just don?t compel me to follow you.

I?ve not read this , but I have listened to this podcast ? Link
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I don't know how society works if "no one pays for it"... I mean, yes, the government can just print money, but if no one is paying into the treasury, we just see runaway price inflation.

Maybe you also should go live in the wilderness with tigermud, so you don't have to pay for roads, ports, airports, police, fire protection, courts, judges, power lines, sewer pipes, schools, teachers, principals, etc. etc. since you don't need any of that.
 
byco42 said:
Imagine: people responsible for governance acknowledging that they need and want Divine assistance and acknowledge His existence.
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Imagine not needing those things because we responsibly manage our resources and create fair laws and rules for society
 
michchamp said:
I don't know how society works if "no one pays for it"... I mean, yes, the government can just print money, but if no one is paying into the treasury, we just see runaway price inflation.

Maybe you also should go live in the wilderness with tigermud, so you don't have to pay for roads, ports, airports, police, fire protection, courts, judges, power lines, sewer pipes, schools, teachers, principals, etc. etc. since you don't need any of that.
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No shit?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nop1PRMiiPY
 
michchamp said:
SHIFTING THE TAX BURDEN, PoliticsNC:
"Sales taxes are regressive. They take a larger percentage of money from low income families than they do higher income families. That?s why liberals in North Carolina howled when the Republicans running the legislature reduced the income tax rate on the highest earners and replaced it with a sales tax on services. Today, the results are clear. Poorer North Carolinians are paying a larger percentage of their income to the government than richer ones.​
makes sense.

States' Shifting Reliance on Income Versus Sales Taxes, Governing.com:
Several Republican governors have made the case for gradually trimming income taxes with the goal of eventually doing away with them altogether.​

FWIW here's a fun extremely verbose response from the Heritage Foundation, arguing that who pays a tax isn't necessary who is "burdened" by it. Paying a tax is actually a benefit. or something
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Let's say $50K a year for a family of 4 is poor. Just using the standard deduction, their federal tax liability would be $2600. However, after the child tax credits, they would get a return of about $3400-$4600 depending on the age of the kids.

Let's say they spend 30% of their gross income on merchandise that is taxable. This would not include food since it's not taxable (in my state anyway)

If they spent $15K on taxable merchandise at 7% = $3500. This families tax liability would be $100 based on them having kids that are over 6. If both kids are under 6 they would be plus $1100

I would consider myself probably upper middle class. My effective tax rate for federal and state taxes was over 21%. That does not include any sales tax.

21% >>> 0%
 
michchamp said:
SHIFTING THE TAX BURDEN, PoliticsNC:
"Sales taxes are regressive. They take a larger percentage of money from low income families than they do higher income families. That?s why liberals in North Carolina howled when the Republicans running the legislature reduced the income tax rate on the highest earners and replaced it with a sales tax on services. Today, the results are clear. Poorer North Carolinians are paying a larger percentage of their income to the government than richer ones.​
makes sense.

States' Shifting Reliance on Income Versus Sales Taxes, Governing.com:
Several Republican governors have made the case for gradually trimming income taxes with the goal of eventually doing away with them altogether.​

FWIW here's a fun extremely verbose response from the Heritage Foundation, arguing that who pays a tax isn't necessary who is "burdened" by it. Paying a tax is actually a benefit. or something
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The wealthy pay the overwhelming majority of the income tax - we have by far the most progressive income tax system in the world. Also, the wealthy tend to consume a lot more, so it makes sense that they pick up a huge chunk of the sales tax burden as well. This idea that they are shifting the burden to the poor is nonsense - can you show me one state where the overwhelming majority of the tax burden isn't born by the wealthy?

Taxes should be based on consumption, not income particularly if you want to get certain desired effects. Tie the cost of something to it's use and you're much more likely to get the behavior you want. For example, toll roads and gasoline taxes to pay for the roads, bridges and tunnels, people will be more judicious about the cars they drive and how much they drive, etc, etc. The federal income tax should be much simpler - set a poverty limit (I think ~$50k/yr was a number thrown out in the most recent proposal I saw) then tax everything above that at 15%, no deductions, no exemptions, no loopholes. File your tax return on post card without paying some CPA or attorney some ridiculous fee to game the system.
 
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tomdalton22 said:
Let's say $50K a year for a family of 4 is poor. Just using the standard deduction, their federal tax liability would be $2600. However, after the child tax credits, they would get a return of about $3400-$4600 depending on the age of the kids.

Let's say they spend 30% of their gross income on merchandise that is taxable. This would not include food since it's not taxable (in my state anyway)

If they spent $15K on taxable merchandise at 7% = $3500. This families tax liability would be $100 based on them having kids that are over 6. If both kids are under 6 they would be plus $1100

I would consider myself probably upper middle class. My effective tax rate for federal and state taxes was over 21%. That does not include any sales tax.

21% >>> 0%
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don't confuse yourself with math, the tax burden has been shifted to the poor and the laws in this country are not fair because not everyone has the same outcome, that's all you need to know.
 
Probably true but definitely not backed by any official trusted fraudchi church of scientific fact at this time

COVID injections are not only the impetus behind the spike in hospitalizations and deaths, but are accelerating them due to Antibody Dependent Enhancement, a deadly condition where the mRNA vaccine effects slowly weaken the immune system over time.
 
tomdalton22 said:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...iss-games-due-local-covid-19-vaccine-mandates

Let's see if these guys stick to their guns. Kyrie Irving set to lose $380K per game if he can't play. Could lose up to $15M :lmao:
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that money will be useless when the Chicoms come and control us.

His only hope is to watch infowars.

then he'll get the truth at least 80-85% of the time, and will use that to become a successful and functional adult, just like all regular infowars viewers.
 
michchamp said:
that money will be useless when the Chicoms come and control us.

His only hope is to watch infowars.

then he'll get the truth at least 80-85% of the time, and will use that to become a successful and functional adult, just like all regular infowars viewers.
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I'm sure Kyre is an infowars fan.

https://basketballforever.com/2017/02/19/list-strange-things-kyrie-irving-doesnt-believe

Some of his ideas

The moon landing was fake. Says the boot prints on the moon don?t match Neil Armstrong?s boots in ?the museum.?
There are extraterrestrial beings in the universe.
Dinosaurs did not exist.
The earth is flat.
The education system is designed to lie to us.
NASA is lying about the rover missions to Mars and that all of the data about space they provide for us is doctored to feed us a narrative.
The people who make alien movies are not designing their aliens out of thin air. He thinks they are basing it on something they have seen.
Believes he is on a journey to become a complete human being who has complete freedom of thought.
The JFK assassination had something to do with him signing an order to take out the global bank cartel.
Bob Marley and MLK were ?taken out? for preaching togetherness.
?They? are creating separation in race and class to control power in the world.
Believes he has a far bigger purpose and cause to his life than basketball.
Listens to audiobooks while taking naps.
Believes the way we travel the world proves the globe is not round.
 
Well... he will be fine then!

he's ready for the jackpot
 
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michchamp said:
that money will be useless when the Chicoms come and control us.

His only hope is to watch infowars.

then he'll get the truth at least 80-85% of the time, and will use that to become a successful and functional adult, just like all regular infowars viewers.
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the Chinese love basketball and they probably don't care if people that aren't vulnerable to the virus they engineered in a lab don't take the vaccine they don't need. So there's a good chance Kyrie will be better off post Chicom takeover.
 
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michchamp said:
that money will be useless when the Chicoms come and control us.

His only hope is to watch infowars.

then he'll get the truth at least 80-85% of the time, and will use that to become a successful and functional adult, just like all regular infowars viewers.
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still much higher rate than CNN/MSNBC. Good news I have even more time to keep up with Jones now that I quit the Lions.

Fraudchi says it's too early to tell if he'll have to cancel xmas again this year or not. All hail fauci!
 
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