Coronainsanity

[tigermud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

 

[Michchamp]

Typical chicom libdem play book, attack the person not the message.

except here, the "person" or "persons" is/are (failed) actor(s) being paid to spread "the message" by someone unidentified behind the scenes.

the Q shaman guy also had a profile on that site.

 

[tigermud]

except here, the "person" or "persons" is/are (failed) actor(s) being paid to spread "the message" by someone unidentified behind the scenes.

the Q shaman guy also had a profile on that site.

In that case it's probably all fake FBI boys creating those accounts.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I led the horse to water. The data trough is right there on the CDC website. And your ghoul of a governor wants to vaccinate every public-school kid in California!?

You?re preaching to the choir.

 

[tigermud]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/cnbc-host-confronts-fauci-breakthrough-cases

 

[sggatecl]

I never was ?looking at it? that way. Link

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58547659

As for making me ?understand?, I ?understand? that the cases and deaths from COVID are overwhelmingly slanted to people about 50 and up, and negligible in the age range < 18.


Age Group Percentage of deaths Count of deaths Percent of US population

0-4 Years <0.1 212 6
5-11 Years <0.1 133 8.7
12-15 Years <0.1 161 5.1
16-17 Years <0.1 131 2.5
18-29 Years 0.6 3,590 16.4
30-39 Years 1.5 8,421 13.5
40-49 Years 3.5 19,807 12.3
50-64 Years 16.3 92,415 19.2
65-74 Years 21.8 123,523 9.6
75-84 Years 26.7 151,851 4.9
85+ Years 29.5 167,460 2

You say you're not looking at it that way, but you're literally only sharing numbers that are affected by if the person died or lived.

If after two years you?re still not looking at this from a perspective of risk categories, I don?t believe anyone can make you understand.

That's ironic because that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking risks into consideration outside of if the person is buried or walking around. MIS-C, long term Covid, permanent lung damage, etc. These don't pop up on your death charts. I'd rather my kids not suffer a lifelong issue because I was all of a sudden afraid of them getting an immunization when they've already had a half dozen before immunizations were politicized in the last year.

 

[tinselwolverine]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58547659



You say you're not looking at it that way, but you're literally only sharing numbers that are affected by if the person died or lived.



That's ironic because that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking risks into consideration outside of if the person is buried or walking around. MIS-C, long term Covid, permanent lung damage, etc. These don't pop up on your death charts. I'd rather my kids not suffer a lifelong issue because I was all of a sudden afraid of them getting an immunization when they've already had a half dozen before immunizations were politicized in the last year.

Literally?

Six?

Out of a population of 75,000,000?

The vacc has been approved for children 12 + for an amount of time.

Soon I expect it will be approved for entering school of any age.

Parents having the option to vacc their kids =/= parents being required to to vacc their kids, against a malady that their kids are statistically at zero risk from.

 

[Spartanmack]

Typical chicom libdem play book, attack the person not the message.

he's not attacking the person, he's pulling back the curtain and revealing the great conspiracy.

 

[byco42]

You say you're not looking at it that way, but you're literally only sharing numbers that are affected by if the person died or lived.

It?s an important metric ? life versus death.

However, here?s more information on your concern of long-term effects. Link

The conclusion: There?s no clear conclusion. But we know that the vaccine neither immunizes nor prevents transmission of COVID, as admitted by Dr. Warensky and plainly observed and captured by numerous studies since vaccines were released in December, 2020.

Link

At this moment in time, with all the questions and loose ends that are flaying about, it?s remarkable that anyone can say with certainty that the vaccine strategy is the solution to preventing the proliferation of this virus. Yet, that?s the only plausible one being forwarded by government, mainstream media, international health organizations, and, most importantly, Steve Cobert.

This is not my childhood vaccine: it?s a radical departure from it, actually, loosed on hundreds of millions of people with no data on their long-term side effects. And the COVID vaccines have triggered severe side effects in teens as well.

One thing I know is that no one should ever be forced to take this vaccine, or the subsequent boosters that apparently will be administered in the months and years to come.

 

[sggatecl]

Literally?

Six?

Yes, six. As in my kids have had six (non Covid) immunizations prior to Covid. I'm not sure what you think I meant or what you were referring to. And no not literally, it could be 5, it could be 7.

Parents having the option to vacc their kids =/= parents being required to to vacc their kids, against a malady that their kids are statistically at zero risk from.

The post I replied to originally said "Help me understand the rationale for vaccinating kids against COVID." The question and my response never mentioned mandates. I've purposely stayed away from the mandate topic. People can't even agree on whether we should be taking preventative measures or not, there's no point in debating the next level.

 

[Spartanmack]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58547659



You say you're not looking at it that way, but you're literally only sharing numbers that are affected by if the person died or lived.



That's ironic because that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking risks into consideration outside of if the person is buried or walking around. MIS-C, long term Covid, permanent lung damage, etc. These don't pop up on your death charts. I'd rather my kids not suffer a lifelong issue because I was all of a sudden afraid of them getting an immunization when they've already had a half dozen before immunizations were politicized in the last year.

how many kids are suffering life long permanent issues from a virus that's not infecting them or making them sick? Post the data. Personally, I'm taking the near zero percent probability that my kids will get COVid and the even lower percent probability they'll get sick from it and the even lower percent probability they'll have serious side effects into consideration and weighing that against giving them a vaccine they don't need and exposing them to the potential long term effects of that. We are already seeing myocarditis and pericarditis in otherwise healthy teenagers and young adults from the vax, that sounds a little worse to me than a temporary loss of taste.

Also, it's not the people who don't want their kids taking a vaccine they don't need that are politicizing this. For three years we've heard that team scream about authoritarian Trump destroying our democracy all while they did everything in their power to shut down free speech, locked down entire states, forced people to wear useless masks and are now demanding that everyone take a vaccine most people don't need. Then they tell low information rubes that they have the science on their side and they eat it up and label everyone else antivax flat earthers.

 

[byco42]

Sweden and Denmark suspend Moderna vaccine in people < 30.

Link

THIS is how it?s done ? incrementally and with extreme caution. Here, in the US, no such diligence ? with the exception of the discovery of stainless steel in 500,000 administered doses, which, according to ?health officials? poses ?no health risks.?

The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine contains the following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate trihydrate, and sucrose.​

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yes, six. As in my kids have had six (non Covid) immunizations prior to Covid. I'm not sure what you think I meant or what you were referring to. And no not literally, it could be 5, it could be 7.



The post I replied to originally said "Help me understand the rationale for vaccinating kids against COVID." The question and my response never mentioned mandates. I've purposely stayed away from the mandate topic. People can't even agree on whether we should be taking preventative measures or not, there's no point in debating the next level.

Okay.

In case you are not aware, the Governor of California, last week, through executive fiat, ordered that all eligible K - 12 students must be vaccinated by a certain date - I think Jan 1 - in order to attend school for (worthless) in person instruction.

This followed on the heels of a similar mandate imposed by the school district of Los Angeles.

Back in March 2020, the city of Los Angeles impose a stay at home order for residents of the city, which was shortly followed by the same stay at home order imposed on residents of California by the governor.

During Newsom?s declaration last week, he bragged that California was the first state to lock down in 2020 - he didn?t use the word lockdown ? and that most of the country followed suit shortly there after.

We?re at the next level - whether you like it or not.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms0hugRkgv8

 

[byco42]

Okay.

In case you are not aware, the Governor of California, last week, through executive fiat, ordered that all eligible K - 12 students must be vaccinated by a certain date - I think Jan 1 - in order to attend school for (worthless) in person instruction.

This followed on the heels of a similar mandate imposed by the school district of Los Angeles.

Back in March 2020, the city of Los Angeles impose a stay at home order for residents of the city, which was shortly followed by the same stay at home order imposed on residents of California by the governor.

During Newsom?s declaration last week, he bragged that California was the first state to lock down in 2020 - he didn?t use the word lockdown ? and that most of the country followed suit shortly there after.

We?re at the next level - whether you like it or not.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms0hugRkgv8

Another elected psychopath. Where are these people coming from?

 

[tinselwolverine]

The narrative is it's the unvaxed at risk, and the unvaxed are putting others are risk, the narrative is wrong, the natural immune system is not a bio hazard and this isn't the plague, technically though I'm just crazy because I get my news from a crazy guy who isn't always right as is nobody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N4jf6rtyuw

Well I think the data is showing the unvacced are primarily at risk.

That said, you know I think the vacc should be one?s personal choice.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Another elected psychopath. Where are these people coming from?

Pelosi
Newsom
Feinstein
Harris

Does that answer your question?

 

[sggatecl]

Okay.

In case you are not aware, the Governor of California, last week, through executive fiat, ordered that all eligible K - 12 students must be vaccinated by a certain date - I think Jan 1 - in order to attend school for (worthless) in person instruction.

This followed on the heels of a similar mandate imposed by the school district of Los Angeles.

Back in March 2020, the city of Los Angeles impose a stay at home order for residents of the city, which was shortly followed by the same stay at home order imposed on residents of California by the governor.

During Newsom?s declaration last week, he bragged that California was the first state to lock down in 2020 - he didn?t use the word lockdown ? and that most of the country followed suit shortly there after.

We?re at the next level - whether you like it or not.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms0hugRkgv8

I care about your whack-job state and it's policies as much as I care about Texas' whackjob abortion policies. If/when it comes to Michigan, I'll worry about it then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkAznG5Vz1o

 

[tinselwolverine]

I care about your whack-job state and it's policies as much as I care about Texas' whackjob abortion policies. If/when it comes to Michigan, I'll worry about it then.

Cool.

We?ll see what influence the California governor?s decision has in Michigan and anywhere else.

And there certainly is already resistance to the edict amongst many California parent; there is definitely the possibility for a challenge at county and other municipal levels?so we?ll see.

 

[byco42]

UK report from Public Health England.

Look at Pages 19 and 20 of the report.

Link

 

[tigermud]

Well I think the data is showing the unvacced are primarily at risk.

That said, you know I think the vacc should be one?s personal choice.

I said something similar to my doctor last month and he said good luck with that. Plan A did not produce a viable option. onto Plan B

Jackboots, libdems are jackboot
https://rumble.com/vnf6at-ted-cruz-...king-down-on-concerned-and-angry-parents.html