Coronainsanity

[mhughes0021]

20 x? Where?s your data troll? I posted a link to a very credible source that debunks that.

There are 7.75 billion people on the planet compared to your millions who have had it multiple times. Just because not everybody has natural immunity obviously doesn?t mean that nobody has it.

Then again, I?ve figured out that you post utterly moronic shit here to get attention for whatever pathetic reason compels you.

Frankly, I think you would do better to put on women?s clothing and hang around in bars.

I looked up covid deaths. Then I looked up flu deaths. Then I divided. Flu cases and deaths were both way down last year... probably because most people are more careful during a global pandemic.

Not sure what telling everyone what the world's population is has anything to do with natural immunity.

Happily married... no reason to go to the bar during a global pandemic. Comment was a little weird in the first place... you feeling OK? Check your temperature... you might have covid and old men are higher risk.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I looked up covid deaths. Then I looked up flu deaths. Then I divided. Flu cases and deaths were both way down last year... probably because most people are more careful during a global pandemic.

Not sure what telling everyone what the world's population is has anything to do with natural immunity.

Happily married... no reason to go to the bar during a global pandemic. Comment was a little weird in the first place... you feeling OK? Check your temperature... you might have covid and old men are higher risk.

Don?t see how the first response 20 x more deadly is supported by data.

Second point - the percentage of people who didn?t get Covid as compared to those who got it twice is obviously an argument for natural immunity, if natural immunity includes natural resistance - which in some definitions it does.

Third point - Was a reference to a brilliant comic sketch by Monty Python. Maybe you actually know that and you?re pretending you don?t. For your enjoyment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts


That said - the post I?m quoting might be the least unfunny post you?ve ever posted. I don?t know, maybe watch more Monty Python sketched on YouTube and your humor could slowly improve through osmosis?

 

[tigermud]

An investigation of 5 months worth of official UK Government data confirms predictions previously made by The Expose that the Covid-19 ?booster? dose would provide a very short lived temporary boost to the immune systems of the vaccinated population before continuing to decimate their immune systems but at a much more rapid pace.

In short, official UK Government data strongly suggests that the Covid-19 vaccinated population are developing some new form of Covid-19 vaccine induced acquired immunodeficiency syndrome at an alarming rate.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/21/triple-vaccinated-are-developing-aids-gov-data/

 

[zyxt9]

The 2017?2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths.

Now, I realize Hughes is still trying to get a tutor to explain this level of math, but I will try to help him out. This equates to a Mortality Rate of 6.37%

Covid is more contagious, flu...even the Delta variant has a lower Mortality Rate compared to the 2017-18 flu season.

The 2018-19 season was not as severe (gee, kinda like Omicron is less severe, or more mild).

For 2018-2019, estimated 29 million infections and 28,000 deaths. This was a Mortality Rate of 0.09655%. That data indicates the flu was slightly more mild than Omicron.

So it depends on the year, but I doubt the Covid Mortality Rate has been 20x higher than the flu since the earliest Covid cases when doctors were attempting to learn how to treat it.

 

[tigermud]

How big Pharma con job?d the world, told you all to watch Hulu dope sick, these guys never change they just move from one con to the next

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/21/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-minus-105-percent-triple-vaccinated/

The latest report available from the UK Health Security Agency shows that the Covid-19 vaccines are now proving to have a negative effectiveness in the triple vaccinated population as low as minus-105% .

Pfizer claim that there Covid-19 mRNA injection has a vaccine effectiveness of 95%. They were able to claim this because of the following ?

During the ongoing clinical trial, 43,661 subjects were split evenly between the placebo and vaccine groups (about 21,830 subjects per group).

In the placebo group ? the group that didn?t have the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine ? 162 became infected with the coronavirus and showed symptoms.

Whilst in the vaccine group ? the group that got the real vaccine ? that number was only 8.

Therefore the percentage of placebo group who became infected equated to 0.74% (162 / 21830 x 100 = 0.74).

Whilst 0.04% of the vaccinate group became infected (8 / 21830 x 100 = 0.04)

In order to calculate the efficacy of their Covid-19 mRNA injection, Pfizer then performed the following calculation ?

They first subtracted the percentage of infections in the vaccinated group from the percentage of infections in the placebo group.

0.74% ? 0.04% = 0.7%

Then they divided that total by the percentage of infections in the placebo group, which equated to 95%.

0.7 / 0.74 = 95%.

Therefore, Pfizer were able to claim that their Covid-19 mRNA injection is 95% effective.

We don?t need to go into the fact that this calculation was extremely misleading and only measured relative effectiveness rather than absolute effectiveness. Neither do we need to go into the fact that Pfizer chose to ignore thousands of other suspected infections during the ongoing trial and not perform a PCR test to confirm the infection because it would have thrown efficacy below the required minimum of 50% to gain regulatory approval.

The reason we don?t need to go into it is because the general public are being told that the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is 95% effective due to the calculation performed above. The same calculation was also used based on individual results to claim a vaccine efficacy of around 70% for AstraZeneca, and around 98% for Moderna.

Now, thanks to a wealth of data published by the new UK Health Security Agency we are able to use the same calculation that was used to calculate 95% effectiveness of the Pfiz

 

[Michchamp]

The 2017?2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths.

Now, I realize Hughes is still trying to get a tutor to explain this level of math, but I will try to help him out. This equates to a Mortality Rate of 6.37%

Covid is more contagious, flu...even the Delta variant has a lower Mortality Rate compared to the 2017-18 flu season.

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Mortality rate should be deaths/total # of infections, not deaths/hospitalizations, right?

If 959,000 people were hospitalized with the flu that winter, presumably a lot more were actually sick with it.

 

[zyxt9]

Mortality rate should be deaths/total # of infections, not deaths/hospitalizations, right?

If 959,000 people were hospitalized with the flu that winter, presumably a lot more were actually sick with it.

Thank you for correcting me. Seriously. I admit when I am mistaken and you caught that mistake. My bad.

So, using the Covid estimates from CDC, I pulled hospitalizations of 7,500,000 and deaths of 921,000. I legit have no idea where the CDC is pulling that data from as other datasets do not show us at 900,000 Covid deaths yet, but for the sake of this argument being in favor of maximizing Covid impact, I will roll with that number.

So 921,000/7,500,000 yields a 12.28% Mortality Rate for hospitalizations. That would yield Covid (all time, for all variants) being only 2x as deadly as the 2017-18 influenza season.

Sooo... once again, it does not appear to meet the 20x. The total deaths is worse due to its contagiousness, not in its ability to kill any singular person.

The data for Omicron will very likely show it has an even lower percentage between hospitalizations and deaths.

 

[Michchamp]

Thank you for correcting me. Seriously. I admit when I am mistaken and you caught that mistake. My bad.

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Sooo... once again, it does not appear to meet the 20x. The total deaths is worse due to its contagiousness, not in its ability to kill any singular person.

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Hey, even Einstein made mistakes when doing math to own people online. Probably? Right?

The 30x flu death rate used "case fatality rate" i.e. fatalities vs. total number of cases as a measure. That makes more sense, since people getting sick, and people dying are objective measures; hospitalizations are more subjective, since some people won't go to the hospital when they should, and (as Tinsel noted), some people will go to the hospital for any reason at all (assuming they like getting hit with $300-$400 ER fees and insurance co-pays all the time. Last time I went to an ER was 2017 or so, and I had to pay around $400 out-of-pocket.. can only imagine how much that would cost now...)

I wrote about this here, almost two years ago, where Gulo hilariously tried (and failed) to start the COVID discussion on the science and technology board, rather the politics board.

The tweet from the Yale University infectious disease researcher citing the 30x Case Fatality Rate for COVID vs. the Flu is here. For all you PhDs out there, her next tweet has links to the source data so you can read and "DO mY oWn ReSeaRCH"

 

[tinselwolverine]

Hey, even Einstein made mistakes when doing math to own people online. Probably? Right?

The 30x flu death rate used "case fatality rate" i.e. fatalities vs. total number of cases as a measure. That makes more sense, since people getting sick, and people dying are objective measures; hospitalizations are more subjective, since some people won't go to the hospital when they should, and (as Tinsel noted), some people will go to the hospital for any reason at all (assuming they like getting hit with $300-$400 ER fees and insurance co-pays all the time. Last time I went to an ER was 2017 or so, and I had to pay around $400 out-of-pocket.. can only imagine how much that would cost now...)

I wrote about this here, almost two years ago, where Gulo hilariously tried (and failed) to start the COVID discussion on the science and technology board, rather the politics board

The tweet from the Yale University infectious disease researcher citing the 30x Case Fatality Rate for COVID vs. the Flu is here. For all you PhDs out there, her next tweet has links to the source data so you can read and "DO mY oWn ReSeaRCH"

Awesome! The source of the ?30 times deadlier? disinformation!

Didn?t know the source, but I knew it had to be some ostensible rando who just dreamed it up and posted it on a blog.

I was wrong about one thing though - I thought sure it was going to turn out to be that same infamous 400 lb guy sitting on a bed who came up with ?Occupy Democrats? and hacked the DNC servers back in the day.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XfVce4rELAY

 

[tigermud]

Omicron is going through my community now and what's rather odd is only about half at most are testing positive for it, even though the other half of the same family! with the same symptoms! are testing negative. wuh..maybe they aren't shoving the Q-tip up the nose far enough idk..

Wife got it Monday tested negative Thursday. Already back to 80% hasn't seemed to have hit me yet for the most part. definitely much shorter duration and much more mild compared to Delta we all had in Nov. Delta was not fun

 

[tigermud]

Morbidly Obese, Triple-Vaxxed Def Sec Who Just Caught Covid Fires 47 Troops For Refusing Shots
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62832


Morbidly obese, triple-vaxxed Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who contracted covid earlier this month despite being "boosted" and had to call in sick, fired an additional 45 Marines and 2 Navy sailors this week in the name of "combat readiness."

"The number of Marines who have been booted for not getting a vaccine is now at 334," the Epoch Times reported.

"The Navy has separated 22 sailors so far for vaccine refusal, all of whom were in their first 180 days of service," USNI News reported.

Tons of these service members who've been fired already have natural immunity but they're being given the boot nonetheless as their refusal to take the shots is seen as a proxy for dissident political views.

 

[zyxt9]

CDC announcing they will be adjusting their definition for Fully Vaxxed. If someone, for instance, just got their 2nd dose, they are Fully Vaxxed. Well, until it is time for them to get their 3rd shot. If you do not get the 3rd shot on time, then you are not Fully Vaxxed. And so forth and so on.

Yeah, nothing like doubling down. I wonder what happens when someone, say, is scheduled for booster next week but gets Covid, which would push the 3rd shot out for 3 months... so, I guess they are Fully Vaxxed until their Natural Booster wears off in 3 months???

Feels like things are heading toward extremely awkward situations. Maybe it all works nice and smooth, or maybe people lose their jobs due to the Fully Vaxxed requirements? And don't even THINK about going to a Bodega for a cup of coffee, ya filthy unvaxxed varment!

 

[zyxt9]

Right NOW the argument is about Total Numbers being too high. In 2 months the New Cases is likely to be very low... but the new Fully Vaxxed definition won't change.

At what point will people stand up and say "enough"? At what point will businesses be forced to give up on their pro-vax position due to not being able to hire enough workers due to everyone finally saying Fuck Off?

Hopefully people will remember the companies that demanded Fully Vaccinated workers. Hopefully enough people leave those businesses and no longer apply that they go bankrupt.

The Never Forget mantra will apply, to those who attempted to strip away personal freedoms.

 

[tigermud]

Right NOW the argument is about Total Numbers being too high. In 2 months the New Cases is likely to be very low... but the new Fully Vaxxed definition won't change.

At what point will people stand up and say "enough"? At what point will businesses be forced to give up on their pro-vax position due to not being able to hire enough workers due to everyone finally saying Fuck Off?

Hopefully people will remember the companies that demanded Fully Vaccinated workers. Hopefully enough people leave those businesses and no longer apply that they go bankrupt.

The Never Forget mantra will apply, to those who attempted to strip away personal freedoms.

Thanks to the SC many private business have and will continue to reverse the requirements, many of them were only going down that path due to the unconstitutional executive mandate. The Tyranny is still fully underway in other sectors though. :-( What's even dumber now is the vaccines are becoming less and less effective yet we're still going to mandate something that isn't even effective anymore? too many dems are nothing but f'n idiotic clowns whom incorrectly believe they have the moral authority to decide what is right for everyone else and force their perceived correct decision unto everyone else. It's just straight up wrong.

 

[tinselwolverine]

CDC announcing they will be adjusting their definition for Fully Vaxxed. If someone, for instance, just got their 2nd dose, they are Fully Vaxxed. Well, until it is time for them to get their 3rd shot. If you do not get the 3rd shot on time, then you are not Fully Vaxxed. And so forth and so on.

Yeah, nothing like doubling down. I wonder what happens when someone, say, is scheduled for booster next week but gets Covid, which would push the 3rd shot out for 3 months... so, I guess they are Fully Vaxxed until their Natural Booster wears off in 3 months???

Feels like things are heading toward extremely awkward situations. Maybe it all works nice and smooth, or maybe people lose their jobs due to the Fully Vaxxed requirements? And don't even THINK about going to a Bodega for a cup of coffee, ya filthy unvaxxed varment!

I don?t think merchants will care about booster status.

Too much trouble.

Also fully vacced is probably going to end up being based on local definition.

In Florida the Governor disdains CDC recommendations.

In LA County Barbara Ferrer, the social worker who fraudulently calls herself an MD makes the CDC look like the Libertarian Party.

 

[mhughes0021]

Record people hospitalized... super mild.

Edit.... with the virus. So I'm sure all the virus deniers will say all those people are just chilling at the hospital and happen to get tested somehow.

Forget all the reports that hospitals are laying off workers cause literally no one goes to the hospital anymore... unless it's for covid. People are now just simply taking field trips to the hospital and getting tested... which is inflating the number. Makes sense. Mild...

 

[tigermud]

Record people hospitalized... super mild.

Edit.... with the virus. So I'm sure all the virus deniers will say all those people are just chilling at the hospital and happen to get tested somehow.

Forget all the reports that hospitals are laying off workers cause literally no one goes to the hospital anymore... unless it's for covid. People are now just simply taking field trips to the hospital and getting tested... which is inflating the number. Makes sense. Mild...

With or because of?

 

[mhughes0021]

With or because of?

I dunno. From all the research I did it looks like there was in influx of finger dislocations last weak. Maybe that's driving the hospital visits? Couldn't be a global pandemic.... finger dislocations makes way more sense.

 

[tigermud]

I dunno. From all the research I did it looks like there was in influx of finger dislocations last weak. Maybe that's driving the hospital visits? Couldn't be a global pandemic.... finger dislocations makes way more sense.

 

[Spartanmack]

Aprox 20x deadlier than the flu in 2021.

The fact there's millions of people that have had covid multiple times proves the natural immunity argument sucks.

Common sense? Lmao....bwahahaha! Funny guy.

Where the data that says millions of people have been reinfected? Is it based off of PCR tests that the cdc recently said not to give to recovered patients because they can give false positives for months after infection? The Omicron surge is the first I've heard of people getting reinfected but I haven't heard anything close to millions of cases of it - and the people who are getting Omicron after recovering from another strain are experiencing symptoms that are:

A) 100% fatal
B) milder
C) worse than anything ever in the history of viruses
D) both A & C