Coronainsanity

[Michchamp]

Prove asymptomatic spread is anything but super rare. The whole premise that lead to the over reach was predicated on fruadchi and his asymptomatic spread proclamations. I called BS on that from the get go and still do. Obviously if your sick stay home, and I do!

I didn't claim anything about asymptomatic spread.



"Obviously if your [sic] sick stay home" that's good you do, but I doubt the Karens screaming about their nail appointment, or throwing punches when their applebee's pickup is late do the same.

And that's the issue... regardless of how prevalent asymptomatic spread is - and I don't think anyone knows for sure - they won't stay home when they're sick, they'll keep going to church, the bar, restaurants, etc. and refusing to do ANYTHING they're asked to do just as a matter of principle and that principle is this retarded idea of freedom that allows them to pick and choose which rules they should follow and which ones everyone else should.

 

[tigermud]

I didn't claim anything about asymptomatic spread.

"Obviously if your [sic] sick stay home" that's good you do, but I doubt the Karens screaming about their nail appointment, or throwing punches when their applebee's pickup is late do the same.

And that's the issue... regardless of how prevalent asymptomatic spread is - and I don't think anyone knows for sure - they won't stay home when they're sick, they'll keep going to church, the bar, restaurants, etc. and refusing to do ANYTHING they're asked to do just as a matter of principle and that principle is this retarded idea of freedom that allows them to pick and choose which rules they should follow and which ones everyone else should.

I would much rather see a society check your temp at the door and tells you go turn around if high then one that tries to force everyone put themselves at experimental jab side effect risk in the name of the greater good. BigPhrama has taken over our once trusted institutions.

so in the Rogan Dr malone interview malone sites a study indicating those with natural immunity are 2-4 times higher risk of jab side effect it they then get jabs while still having natural immunity, while other studies now indicating can last for up to 18 months! The one size fits all is a huge mistake and completely unnecessary.

 

[tigermud]

NBA legend Shaquille O?Neal publicly declared Thursday that in his opinion no one ?should be forced? to take a vaccine, and hit back at a reporter who claimed that Americans are not being made to take shots.

?It is forced. Because if the man don?t take it, the man gonna get fired,? he shot back.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/shaquille-oneal-speaks-out-against-vaccine-mandates/

 

[tigermud]

Former NBA Player Royce White Joins Infowars in Powerful Exclusive Interview

https://www.infowars.com/posts/form...ins-infowars-in-powerful-exclusive-interview/

 

[tigermud]

Pentagon DMED Whistleblowers Expose Vaccine Holocaust
https://www.infowars.com/posts/pentagon-dmed-whistleblowers-expose-vaccine-holocaust/

 

[tigermud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SVO0lc_1_o




Crimes against humanity

 

[tigermud]

Was Australia Really Founded As A Penal Colony?
Yes, indeed it was

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/was-australia-really-founded-as-a-penal-colony.html

And they are now once again a penal colony

https://www.infowars.com/posts/cop-interrupts-catholic-mass-to-enforce-face-mask-order/

 

[tigermud]

In time I?ll plan to start a new thread for Covid crimes accountability but we aren?t there yet. But we will be in the future

https://youtu.be/or4vncEcuBo

 

[tinselwolverine]

In time I?ll plan to start a new thread for Covid crimes accountability but we aren?t there yet. But we will be in the future

https://youtu.be/or4vncEcuBo

This is not the Babylon Bee

 

[Spartanmack]

New Jersey's 4th or 5th former Goldman Sachs top executive to become governor recently decreed children will no longer be required to wear masks in school beginning in March. He's acting like a benevolent hero to the masses with this move and most of the media is lauding him as such. Few are reporting that keeping the mandate in place for another month (he could end it effective immediately) is about extending his emergency powers without having to get approval from the legislature. The truth is he is continuing to abuse children by forcing them to wear useless masks that don't protect them from a disease that isn't a threat to them because he is a power hungry autocrat.

 

[Michchamp]

New Jersey's 4th or 5th former Goldman Sachs top executive to become governor recently decreed children will no longer be required to wear masks in school beginning in March. He's acting like a benevolent hero to the masses with this move and most of the media is lauding him as such. Few are reporting that keeping the mandate in place for another month (he could end it effective immediately) is about extending his emergency powers without having to get approval from the legislature. The truth is he is continuing to abuse children by forcing them to wear useless masks that don't protect them from a disease that isn't a threat to them because he is a power hungry autocrat.

Whoa! You Better be careful... once he knows you're on to his evil plans, you may not be safe.

 

[Spartanmack]

Whoa! You Better be careful... once he knows you're on to his evil plans, you may not be safe.

So in your world, child abuse is not evil - so long as it's done in the name of public health? Good to know.

Edit: I find it funny that you're always railing on Wall Street and how Republicans are all in bed with them - how much you hate billionaires because you think they're all backing Koch brothers' initiatives. We've had 5 ex-Goldman Sachs governors, every one of them a billionaire or very close and every one of them plays for your team. Illinois' Governor comes from a family worth $33.5B, he plays for your team - and he's pulling the same garbage. Same with that schmuck in California - himself only worth $20mm, but has ties to the billionaire Getty family (those climate changers made their money in oil if you didn't already know that), and he could be the worst of all - he's lifting the mask mandate but keeping it in place for kids in school. Both Illinois and New Jersey are structurally bankrupt after decades of rule by wealthy elitsts, many of them billionaires and California isn't too far behind, esp as it bleeds middle and upper middle class residents with one of the highest net move-out rates in the country (behind NY & NJ)

 

[Spartanmack]

The idea that people put themselves at risk of getting the vaccine is pure insanity. The benefits of the vaccine are proven, the risks are all speculation.

it is definitely not all speculation - multiple studies show the risk of myocarditis is significantly higher among the vaccinated than those who recovered from COVID. That's a fact, readily available on the CDC's website.

 

[Sbee]

it is definitely not all speculation - multiple studies show the risk of myocarditis is significantly higher among the vaccinated than those who recovered from COVID. That's a fact, readily available on the CDC's website.

The CDC still recommends getting the vaccine because the known risks of Covid far outweigh the possible risks of an adverse reaction to the vaccine, including myocarditis.

Do we believe the CDC or not? I guess it depends on if what they're saying aligns with your political beliefs. If they say everyone over 5 should get vaccinated, well hell no. If they say there's a risk of myocarditis after vaccination, we should take what they say very seriously.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm happy you're able to make poor health decisions for yourself. Please tell me about how the real risks of the vaccine outweigh the real risks of Covid?

Also, I love the argument that since you got Covid and didn't die, it was a good decision not to get the vaccine. Same logic can apply to driving drunk, not killing anybody, and being happy you didn't waste the money on an Uber

for me, the risk of a negative outcome from COVID is very, very small - small enough that I'm not willing to take the risk of myocarditis or some other negative outcome from being vaccinated than from dealing with a minor fever and aches for a couple days. If that's a poor health decision, I'm curious to know what you consider a good health decision.

I'm not using the fact that I didn't die to justify why I didn't get the vaccine. I've already laid out the reasons I'm not vaccinated many times but here it is again in a nutshell - I'm keenly aware of the risks of COVID to me, as a fairly young, healthy individual. I'm also aware of the risk of negative side effects from a vaccine I don't need. I chose not to get it based on a recommendation from my doctor as well as a scientist who has read nearly every available piece on the vaccines, what's in them, how they work, etc.

By the way, I'm also keenly aware of the risk of serious harm to myself and others from drinking and driving. Informed consent - it's why I didn't get the vaccine and it's why I don't drink and drive. The fact that I didn't die or get seriously ill had nothing to do with the decision - it was the fact that I had a very low probability of getting seriously ill and even lower probability of dying.

 

[Spartanmack]

The CDC still recommends getting the vaccine because the known risks of Covid far outweigh the possible risks of an adverse reaction to the vaccine, including myocarditis.

Do we believe the CDC or not? I guess it depends on if what they're saying aligns with your political beliefs. If they say everyone over 5 should get vaccinated, well hell no. If they say there's a risk of myocarditis after vaccination, we should take what they say very seriously.

The CDC may still recommend getting the vaccine but it's not because of the known risks far outweigh the possible risks of an adverse reaction to the vaccine, certainly not when it comes to myocarditis - also, certainly not for everyone. The risk of adverse outcome from COVID is practically zero for kids (really for anyone under 30 with no comorbidities). The fact that they're recommending these vaccines that aren't universal, don't prevent infection or spread, don't materially lower the risk and don't have enough long term history and data to kids is completely insane.

It's not whether you believe a person or an organization or not. I don't believe everything anyone says and the CDC has demonstrated that a lot of what they say should be treated with a healthy does of skepticism. You can include the NIH and WHO in that as well.

 

[Sbee]

for me, the risk of a negative outcome from COVID is very, very small - small enough that I'm not willing to take the risk of myocarditis or some other negative outcome from being vaccinated than from dealing with a minor fever and aches for a couple days. If that's a poor health decision, I'm curious to know what you consider a good health decision.

I'm not using the fact that I didn't die to justify why I didn't get the vaccine. I've already laid out the reasons I'm not vaccinated many times but here it is again in a nutshell - I'm keenly aware of the risks of COVID to me, as a fairly young, healthy individual. I'm also aware of the risk of negative side effects from a vaccine I don't need. I chose not to get it based on a recommendation from my doctor as well as a scientist who has read nearly every available piece on the vaccines, what's in them, how they work, etc.

By the way, I'm also keenly aware of the risk of serious harm to myself and others from drinking and driving. Informed consent - it's why I didn't get the vaccine and it's why I don't drink and drive. The fact that I didn't die or get seriously ill had nothing to do with the decision - it was the fact that I had a very low probability of getting seriously ill and even lower probability of dying.

The negative effects of the vaccine are miniscule, but you do you.

Again, I'm against government mandates but if an employer wants to make it a condition of employment, that's up to them. If an individual thinks that making a health decision that is more likely to harm them than help them is more important than their job, god bless them.

 

[Sbee]

The CDC may still recommend getting the vaccine but it's not because of the known risks far outweigh the possible risks of an adverse reaction to the vaccine, certainly not when it comes to myocarditis - also, certainly not for everyone. The risk of adverse outcome from COVID is practically zero for kids (really for anyone under 30 with no comorbidities). The fact that they're recommending these vaccines that aren't universal, don't prevent infection or spread, don't materially lower the risk and don't have enough long term history and data to kids is completely insane.

It's not whether you believe a person or an organization or not. I don't believe everything anyone says and the CDC has demonstrated that a lot of what they say should be treated with a healthy does of skepticism. You can include the NIH and WHO in that as well.

That's exactly why they recommend it.

 

[Michchamp]

Somewhat true, it's easy to sit in a huge house and have serfs deliver food to your door. the pandemic is a breeze, why can't everyone just do that?

I don't consider "work from home" white collar workers to be the moneyed class. Some of them might think they are... people delivering their food might think they are, but they're really not.

By "moneyed" I'm talking about people with enough money to buy a Stanford professor to put his name on a hack paper downplaying the thread COVID posed, or funding protests against mask mandates and shutdowns.

There's a bigger gulf between the moneyed class and white collar workers, than there is between the white collars and the delivery people. But that's why the "culture wars" come into play...

 

[Spartanmack]

The negative effects of the vaccine are miniscule, but you do you.

Again, I'm against government mandates but if an employer wants to make it a condition of employment, that's up to them. If an individual thinks that making a health decision that is more likely to harm them than help them is more important than their job, god bless them.

I don't consider myocarditis miniscule, but that's a good descriptor for the risk of COVID to me personally which is why I chose to take that risk vs. the known and unknown risks of the vaccine.