Coronainsanity

[Gulo Blue]

I think the line was drawn at vaccine passports and show your papers edicts. that's a bridge to far for obvious historical reasons, it's about freedom of choice and resistance to the tyranny that these types of edicts lead to. If the line isn't drawn here it's too late to draw it later.

I think you need to draw some more specific line regarding what counts as vaccine papers. Schools have required vaccine papers for ages.

 

[Michchamp]

I think you need to draw some more specific line regarding what counts as vaccine papers. Schools have required vaccine papers for ages.

that's not what the editorial cartoons that form his understanding of the world said.

 

[Michchamp]

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Side note - when we were kids, one of my little sisters was friends with the kids her age whose family owns the Ambassador Bridge. I'd love to see the look on MC's face when he finds out the Ambassador Bridge is privately owned - his head will probably explode.

sorry, idiot, it's been pretty widely known that the Moroun family owns it to anyone who's read the Free Press in the last decade. that Matty Moroun dickhead has single handedly managed to keep a second bridge from being built & maintain his control over bridge traffic, solely by virtue of his wealth, because we're a failed state as a country and can't enforce our own laws or progress against billionaires.

 

[Michchamp]

If it was all Canadian truckers involved in these protests, I think you could credibly claim this was a fight against tyranny. But it's a small percentage of them, who all happen to be of a certain political persuasion.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Side note - when we were kids, one of my little sisters was friends with the kids her age whose family owns the Ambassador Bridge.

The Ambassador Bridge was one of my favorite bridges growing up.

That and the Brooklyn Bridge, the Mackinaw Bridge, the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, and the Broadway Street over the Huron River by the train depot in Ann Arbor.

That one isn?t as famous though.

Some little factoids on the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0irJjzRMTNs

 

[Spartanmack]

Trying to paint Michchamp as a hypocrite for supporting one sort of trucker protest vs another is linking the two things together.

I'm comparing different reactions to two things (one real and one make believe) to make the point that he's a hypocrite. That's not anything like what you're accusing me of doing - not even close.

As for BLM, since you want so badly to take the conversation there, I don't support any actions that violate any laws. I support the cause but of course any violent action isn't supported. That 7% number includes a number of incidents where no there was no physical harm to any individual.

I'm not desperate to have a conversation about BLM riots, just making the point that when you defend politicians and their media lapdogs saying the protests are dangerous and violent by bitching about the truckers breaking laws rings hallow when you dismiss actual extremely violent riots as mostly peaceful.

As for the describing a vaccine mandate for truckers crossing a border as tyranny, that's a joke. I know right wingers like to live out some 1776 fantasy so they convince themselves that a country requiring that foreign travelers that enter that country be vaccinated is so cruel and oppressive that it fits the definition of tyranny. If that is truly tranny and overreach as you say, the courts will side with the protesters, so far, they've been tossing lawuits out left and right.

I don't think you know what tyranny means if you think forcing citizens to take a vaccine they don't need isn't tyranny. And I've never said a country requiring foreign travelers to be vaccinated is cruel - that's not what we're talking about. So in addition to not knowing what tyranny is, you also don't understand the issue at hand here. The idea that the courts are infallible arbiters of justice is pretty funny - aren't you guys the "courts are racist" crowd? I guess they get everything else right, though huh?

 

[Spartanmack]

sorry, idiot, it's been pretty widely known that the Moroun family owns it to anyone who's read the Free Press in the last decade. that Matty Moroun dickhead has single handedly managed to keep a second bridge from being built & maintain his control over bridge traffic, solely by virtue of his wealth, because we're a failed state as a country and can't enforce our own laws or progress against billionaires.

yeah, I feel really dumb for not knowing the biggest moron on the board didn't know the bridge was privately owned. I wasn't off by much though, I've known for over 40 years and your dumbass just found out in the last decade or so.

 

[Spartanmack]

The Ambassador Bridge was one of my favorite bridges growing up.

That and the Brooklyn Bridge, the Mackinaw Bridge, the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, and the Broadway Street over the Huron River by the train depot in Ann Arbor.

That one isn?t as famous though.

Some little factoids on the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.

Wow, the Golden Gate doesn't even make your top 5. Of the bridges here in NY, the Brooklyn is easily #1, but I like the GW more than the Verrazano Narrows bridge. Granted I use it a lot more - drive it a few times a year and used to ride my bike across it when I was training for triathlons way back when. I don't think I've been on the Verrazano more than once. The new Tappan Zee bridge is kinda cool - very modern though. It's actually named after Fredo's old man, but I'll always call it the new Tappan Zee bridge.

 

[Spartanmack]

that's not what the editorial cartoons that form his understanding of the world said.

can't wait for Sbee to rail into you for the false equivalence. Employers have never required vaccination proof for the vaccines required by schools and most schools outside higher education and the People's Republic of LA don't require students to be vaccinated against COVID. But requiring truckers to get vaccinated for COVID 19 (and not the diseases schools require vaccination against) is basically the same thing. I bet Mud knew that even though it's not spelled out in the cartoon he posted. Unsurprisingly, you need it explained to you.

 

[tigermud]

I think you need to draw some more specific line regarding what counts as vaccine papers. Schools have required vaccine papers for ages.

The exemptions were easy to get for the schools and the papers were never required for entry in restaurants and what not. The exemptions for this one have been fought at every corner and flat out denied in many cases.

 

[tigermud]

If it was all Canadian truckers involved in these protests, I think you could credibly claim this was a fight against tyranny. But it's a small percentage of them, who all happen to be of a certain political persuasion.

You have that data all figured out do ya? on what percentages are CN vs non and how that all divides up along party preferences? Was their a poll somewhere they all submitted?

 

[Spartanmack]

The exemptions were easy to get for the schools and the papers were never required for entry in restaurants and what not. The exemptions for this one have been fought at every corner and flat out denied in many cases.

or to get or keep a job.

 

[Spartanmack]

If it was all Canadian truckers involved in these protests, I think you could credibly claim this was a fight against tyranny. But it's a small percentage of them, who all happen to be of a certain political persuasion.

so it's the cross-border support and solidarity that invalidates the protests against tyranny? That's like saying the Irish and Scots supported each other in their fight against England, so the English must have been right.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Wow, the Golden Gate doesn't even make your top 5. Of the bridges here in NY, the Brooklyn is easily #1, but I like the GW more than the Verrazano Narrows bridge. Granted I use it a lot more - drive it a few times a year and used to ride my bike across it when I was training for triathlons way back when. I don't think I've been on the Verrazano more than once. The new Tappan Zee bridge is kinda cool - very modern though. It's actually named after Fredo's old man, but I'll always call it the new Tappan Zee bridge.

I never saw the Golden Gate Bridge growing up.

Before I moved to Cali during my 25th year, I had never been very far west of the Mississippi.

I had personal attachments to events surrounding those other bridges; basically because of things and places they led to.

 

[tigermud]

or to get or keep a job.

But it's for the greater good. Take this experimental jab or be cancelled, shunned from society ! If you refuse you're just selfish and not doing what Jesus would do. It is your solemn duty to protect your fellow man. The problem is I do not trust man, a virus created in a lab by man, followed by an experimental DNA alternating vaccine with no long term data created by man. I simply do not trust or believe those behind all this have humanities best interest at heart. I do not trust the Fraudchi and the chicoms that created this

Request Denied!

 

[Gulo Blue]

The exemptions were easy to get for the schools and the papers were never required for entry in restaurants and what not. The exemptions for this one have been fought at every corner and flat out denied in many cases.

Well that's still how it is in most places. The only time I've been asked for papers is for shows with 1,000s of people and for my free doughnuts when the vaccines were first widely available.

 

[Spartanmack]

I never saw the Golden Gate Bridge growing up.

Before I moved to Cali during my 25th year, I had never been very far west of the Mississippi.

I had personal attachments to events surrounding those other bridges; basically because of things and places they led to.

Like the Fresh Kills Landfill?

Didn't catch that they were your favorites as a kid - I probably didn't cross 5 famous bridges as a kid let alone have 5 favorites. I had been to Manhattan a few times before high school but don't remember if I got there by bridge or tunnel or from Long Island or the dirty Jerz. My kids are big fans of the Lincoln Tunnel and the GW Bridge.

 

[tigermud]

Well that's still how it is in most places. The only time I've been asked for papers is for shows with 1,000s of people and for my free doughnuts when the vaccines were first widely available.

Would you prefer it to be like that all the time for anywhere you go?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Would you prefer it to be like that all the time for anywhere you go?

Of course not. I've said so before.

 

[tigermud]

Of course not. I've said so before.

that's what some are fighting to ensure never happens. crazy as that sounds I know. that would never happen, ah huh.. 2 week to slow the spread was the original goal as to not overwhelm the system? We went from that to firing people that refused to comply. so guess they weren't so essential? It would have never come to that mud you crazy. I wonder if people in Australia would agree. \

Mud you just crazy bat shit loony bags of idiotic knuckle dragging uneducated dingle berry dung balls ass clown mofo that should be tossed into a funny farm.