Coronainsanity

[byco42]

Or maybe they are N95. In any event, options from the list were available, but I'm not sure if they still are.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/n95list1-a.html

N95s are not a viable choice for the general public, even if they are in abundance. It is for professional applications.

Without fit testing, N95 respirators are not verified as being able to filter out 95% of particulates. In fact an N95 respirator without fit testing is largely ineffective.

Link

The average person will not know this, and even if they did, could not necessarily conduct even a qualitative fit test, if they could get the kits in the first place. Every wearing requires a fit test, and is only good for that model and that specific mask. And fit testing is not intuitive; people need to be trained.

Also: Men with facial hair that crosses the seam line will nullify the sealing effects of the N95.

When a respirator does not fit properly, a portion of the air you breathe can bypass the respirator’s filter and enter your breathing airstream through breaks in the seal of the respirator along your face. If this happens, you may be exposed to harmful pathogens in the environment. In a similar vein, it is important to wear the respirator at all times during the exposure because even short periods of exposure substantially reduces your protection. This all boils down to a simple reality: if the respirator does not form a seal with the face, it cannot provide the expected level of protection.​

Source: CDC.

 

[Gulo Blue]

We scoured the internet, local networks in NJ, MD and MI and couldn?t get N95 masks. If the 2 biggest hospitals in Lansing couldn?t get them, I?d be surprised we were just looking in the wrong places.

I don't know what to tell you. The masks I got in person, off a temporary stand by the register in home depot say N95 and are listed here: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/N95list1-g.html

 

[Gulo Blue]

N95s are not a viable choice for the general public, even if they are in abundance. It is for professional applications.

Without fit testing, N95 respirators are not verified as being able to filter out 95% of particulates. In fact an N95 respirator without fit testing is largely ineffective.

Link

The average person will not know this, and even if they did, could not necessarily conduct even a qualitative fit test, if they could get the kits in the first place. Every wearing requires a fit test, and is only good for that model and that specific mask. And fit testing is not intuitive; people need to be trained.

Also: Men with facial hair that crosses the seam line will nullify the sealing effects of the N95.

When a respirator does not fit properly, a portion of the air you breathe can bypass the respirator?s filter and enter your breathing airstream through breaks in the seal of the respirator along your face. If this happens, you may be exposed to harmful pathogens in the environment. In a similar vein, it is important to wear the respirator at all times during the exposure because even short periods of exposure substantially reduces your protection. This all boils down to a simple reality: if the respirator does not form a seal with the face, it cannot provide the expected level of protection.​

Source: CDC.

Sure. But amount matters. Less is better than more.

 

[tomdalton22]

I think a lot of people are missing the point regarding wearing masks. The N95 masks that health care workers wear are meant to protect the health care workers from sick patients. The "mandated" mask wearing for the public is not meant to protect the people wearing the masks, it's to limit the amount of germs spread by people that don't know they are sick. Regular "civilians" walking the streets really shouldn't be using N95 masks if they are in short supply. Most people don't wear them right anyway, so they are wasting them because a pair of underwear on your face will do the same job (I suggest clean underwear)

 

[byco42]

Sure. But amount matters. Less is better than more.

How many COVID 19 virus spores are required to contract the virus?

 

[Spartanmack]

I don't know what to tell you. The masks I got in person, off a temporary stand by the register in home depot say N95 and are listed here: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/N95list1-g.html

I haven't been able to buy an N95 mask or replacement filters for my respirator mask or latex gloves at any of the 3 Home Depots near my house since March and I'm in HD at least once every month - I've been to one every week since I moved in late October and I look for them every time I go. I may have to just hold my breath using the paint sprayer - gotta get the basement and the cabinets I built painted soon.

 

[Gulo Blue]

How many COVID 19 virus spores are required to contract the virus?

Don't know. But a smaller amount can yields a milder case. How many molecules of alcohol gets a person drunk?

 

[Michchamp]

Don't know. But a smaller amount can yields a milder case. How many molecules of alcohol gets a person drunk?

I don't know off-hand, and the fact that I don't know, and also that alcohol intoxication varies per person due to body chemistry, and also we have laws against drunk driving and public intoxication, but they don't prevent it, so maybe we shouldn't have drunk driving and public intoxication laws?

But also, I'm not saying we shouldn't, I'm just pointlessly complaining, because I'm unhappy, and no one around here will take my calls or respond to my texts.

 

[tinselwolverine]

THESE ARE DOCTORS

Like... a LOTTA doctors!

 

[tomdalton22]

THESE ARE DOCTORS

Like... a LOTTA doctors!

that certainly makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, people in this country have a hard time following rules.

Of course, it may not be any worse than it is right now. It seems like the rules that have been restricting everyone haven't done anything to slow down the spread of the virus.

 

[tigermud]

And, considering the infection and death rates, if you don't think masks work, how do you propose we get the infections down? Lockdowns?

lockdowns don't work either, it's just going to need to run it's course, it's not the second coming of the black death. Yet that's how we are treating it, it's pure insanity. And guess who wins in the end. China succeeded in getting us to shut ourselves down right into bankruptcy and global reset.

 

[sggatecl]

 

[tigermud]

I won’t have that problem don’t buy Microsoft products any more as is and not taking it no matter the cost. And I am willing to die on that hill.

 

[sggatecl]

I won?t have that problem don?t buy Microsoft products any more as is and not taking it no matter the cost. And I am willing to die on that hill.

I'm not nerdy enough to convert to Linux and not trendy enough to switch to Apple/iOS so Windows it is.

 

[tigermud]

I'm not nerdy enough to convert to Linux and not trendy enough to switch to Apple/iOS so Windows it is.

Got rid windows years ago just waste too much time always trying to fix and configure around all its damn bugs and glitches. Life is too short for that shit

 

[Spartanmack]

I don't know off-hand, and the fact that I don't know, and also that alcohol intoxication varies per person due to body chemistry, and also we have laws against drunk driving and public intoxication, but they don't prevent it, so maybe we shouldn't have drunk driving and public intoxication laws?

But also, I'm not saying we shouldn't, I'm just pointlessly complaining, because I'm unhappy,and no one around here will take my calls or respond to my texts.

We?ve known this for years.

 

[Thumb]

I won?t have that problem don?t buy Microsoft products any more as is and not taking it no matter the cost. And I am willing to die on that hill.

It's going to be a mountain, not a hill by the time all you idiots are done dying on it.

 

[tigermud]

It's going to be a mountain, not a hill by the time all you idiots are done dying on it.

That’s ok would rather die free than live under dystopian nightmare medical tyranny

 

[Michchamp]

What is a medical tyranny?

doctors and nurses making sure your blood pressure is low, and you're eating a balanced diet?

 

[sggatecl]

Got rid windows years ago just waste too much time always trying to fix and configure around all its damn bugs and glitches. Life is too short for that shit

I've been pretty happy with 7 and 10. What did you switch to?