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Coronainsanity

I have been having so much fun following the two of you go back and forth on this riveting academic discourse that I couldn’t resist joining the merriment.

There is no universe in which characterizing any point in “late September” as being “well into the fall” makes sense, especially when the event - I guess we are talking about the acquisition of some worthless masks – may not have happened during the fall at all.

Let’s break this down a bit – remember, “30 days hath September.”

So “late September” should be characterized as being any time just after midnight the early morning of September 16 - the beginning of the second half- and just before midnight the night of September 30.

So let’s look at some of the facts.

The fall began this year, 2020, on September 22, at 9:30 AM EDST. We have to look at the date of the equinox, September 22, as being both part of the summer, and also as part of the fall, because until 9:30 AM it was indeed summer, and after that it was fall - nine days of fall in September.

Adding 31 days of fall in October, 30 days of fall in November, and 21 days of fall in December (the 21st being a partial day; fall ends at 5:02 AM EST) gives us a total of 91 days of fall in 2020.

So had the event in question – again I guess it was the purchase of some worthless masks - occurred after 9:30 AM on September 22 and before midnight on September 30, the event would have indeed happened in the fall, at some point between less than 1% of the way into fall and not quite 10% of the way into fall.

I don’t see how it is reasonable to characterize any point less than 1% of the way into something and not even as much as 10% of the way into that thing as being “well into” that thing.

Now, let’s go back and examine the possibility that the event - again, I guess it was the purchase of some worthless masks –in “late September” occurred at a point in time between after midnight the morning of September 16 and just before 9:30 AM on September 22 - if that were the case, the event wouldn’t have happened in the fall at all – it would have indeed happened during the summer.

It is in arguably erroneous to claim that an event that happened during the summer happened “well into the fall.”

This was a lot of fun guys, keep it up.

Hey, no fair. I wouldn’t want Gulo to feel left out by you not also over-analyzing his claim that masks were available in mid summer when he later said he bought them in late September. He has worked hard in all this and deserves equal time. Also, i don’t care about calendar technicalities, if it happens after week 3 of college football, it’s well into the fall as far as I’m concerned. So there is a universe where it makes sense. My universe. The only universe that counts.
 
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So there's a new mutation with 1,000 cases identified in southern England, VUI – 202012/01, and the mutation impacts the spike that the vaccines target. Right now they don't think it will impact vaccine efficacy, but they need to lock that down until we know.
 
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For all the talk of how overblown the covid restrictions are in CA, it sounds like they are getting swamped right now. Especially around LA.
 
For all the talk of how overblown the covid restrictions are in CA, it sounds like they are getting swamped right now. Especially around LA.

even with all the lockdowns (that don't apply to the movie industry or the ruling class bureaucrats)? Sounds like they need more restrictions (on every day Californians).
 
Where's bob? I have a question - was "we could have a vaccine before the end of the year" counted as one of the tens of thousands of lies Trump told? It was definitely fact checked by the media and "proven" to be false even though it is apparently true, so I'm assuming it is one of the lies from the most lying POTUS ever and it's not even close, but would like clarification.
 
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Where's bob? I have a question - was "we could have a vaccine before the end of the year" counted as one of the tens of thousands of lies Trump told? It was definitely fact checked by the media and "proven" to be false even though it is apparently true, so I'm assuming it is one of the lies from the most lying POTUS ever and it's not even close, but would like clarification.
You're remembering it wrong. He said before the election or right around that time when experts were saying end of the year.
 
Maybe big Pharm is in the pockets of the Democrats. It was pretty convenient that they waited until after the election to announce that they had developed effective vaccines.
 
Maybe big Pharm is in the pockets of the Democrats. It was pretty convenient that they waited until after the election to announce that they had developed effective vaccines.
I don't think the Russian and German vaccine companies would do that though.
 
I don't think the Russian and German vaccine companies would do that though.

Not the Russians.

They were cheating again for the Rs and Trump.

Since this time the towel headed Iranians and the dirty filthy chicoms, along with the dead Argentinian out cheated the cheating cheaters for the Ds and J?Biden, nobody paid attention nor cared.
 
You're remembering it wrong. He said before the election or right around that time when experts were saying end of the year.

“Fact check: Coronavirus vaccine could come this year, Trump says. Experts say he needs a ‘miracle’ to be right,” read NBC’s headline on May 15.

NBC then sought out experts to contradict Trump, such as Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Offit said a vaccine wouldn’t be ready until “the middle or end of next year.” Another expert, Dr. Walter Orenstein, associate director of the Emory Vaccine Center and a professor at Emory University, told the outlet it would take a “miracle” for the vaccine to come out in less than a year.

On September 16, NPR pointed out that Trump, “contradicting the CDC,” said a COVID-19 vaccine could be ready by the end of 2020. The next day, another NPR article featured the transcript of one of its programs knocking Trump for suggesting the vaccine would be ready by the end of the year. The outlet used testimony from CDC Director Robert Redfield before a Senate panel that month, in which he said the vaccine would not be ready until the spring or summer of 2021.

CNBC on October 22 posted its version of the same article, with the headline: “President Trump says Covid-19 vaccine will be coming by the end of the year, despite contrary evidence.” The article featured footage from the presidential debate between Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden in which NBC News’ Kristen Welker noted Trump administration health experts saying a vaccine wouldn’t be ready until 2021 and asking Trump if his predictions were “realistic.”

So which one of us is remembering it wrong?
 
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I don't think many people took that seriously though.

So are you saying the major news outlets like NBC, CNBC and NPR going out of their way to fact check and publish stories about the President's "false" claims weren't actually taking it seriously?
 
Maybe big Pharm is in the pockets of the Democrats. It was pretty convenient that they waited until after the election to announce that they had developed effective vaccines.

no, that's the health insurance industry...
 
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