Coronainsanity

[mhughes0021]

Yes. Absolutely. Because you have to not only look at the Mortality but the Survivability. That is the piece you are excluding because you have bought into the Fear Market System.

Delta itself has a 98% Survivability. Omicron has a 99.8% Survivability so far. So while they have the same number of deaths, the number who survive Delta is dramatically less than the number who survive Omicron.

Stop being afraid. That is not to say stop being smart or stop taking precautions, but you are - based on your posts - allowing the fear to consume you. Odds are very high you will survive if you catch Omicron...believe you will be fine because that is the far greater probability. If you were given the odds of your favorite team winning by these percentages, you would put your money on your team, not the opponent. COULD they still lose? Sure, that has a very small chance of happening...and there would be a touch of anxiety... but you are acting as though your team only has the 0.2% chance to win.

Im in the camp that if we see another 500k people die because people "arent afraid" and keep doing the same shit they would do if there wasnt a global pandemic. Then we all lost the game.

Then people will just move on and blame Fauci and Biden for it because they dont want to look themselves in the mirror and admit this is everyones fault...and no one wants to take responsibility for being a bonehead.

i for one...am not afraid. Im careful becuase i would actually give a shit if i killed someone.

 

[mhughes0021]

We shouldnt' be focusing on masks and lockdowns, we should take reasonable measures to slow the spread, protect the most vulnerable among us like the elderly and people with comorbidities (maybe even by isolating them), focus on early treatment and natural immunity.

Considering we did nothing to be safe the first 2 years id say the focus was natural immunity. It didnt work. its proven it doesnt last. And its unknown if it will help fight future strains...cause we dont know wat those mutations are yet. Natural immunity is a better way of saying lets do nothing and let everyone die...which fixes nothing and basically says "lets live with covid forever."

 

[Spartanmack]

Considering we did nothing to be safe the first 2 years id say the focus was natural immunity. It didnt work. its proven it doesnt last. And its unknown if it will help fight future strains...cause we dont know wat those mutations are yet. Natural immunity is a better way of saying lets do nothing and let everyone die...which fixes nothing and basically says "lets live with covid forever."

this is also not even close to accurate - all of it completely wrong.

 

[Spartanmack]

Photo ID to vote - that's racist! City government requiring photo ID to enter a private businesses - totally fine! It's hilarious and sad.

 

[Michchamp]

Considering we did nothing to be safe the first 2 years id say the focus was natural immunity. It didnt work. its proven it doesnt last. And its unknown if it will help fight future strains...cause we dont know wat those mutations are yet. Natural immunity is a better way of saying lets do nothing and let everyone die...which fixes nothing and basically says "lets live with covid forever."

"natural immunity" = "almost all of you will get very sick, and many of you will die, but because I don't expect I will be one of them, I don't care. Don't make me wait more than 15 minutes for my Applebee's pick up order, and DON'T make me do anything: not wear a mask, not stay home, and definitely not get an OUCHIE in my arm with a needle. I am a completely selfish asshole and I refuse to be inconvenienced for 5 minutes even if it means someone else may get sick or die."

 

[Spartanmack]

"natural immunity" = "almost all of you will get very sick, and many of you will die, but because I don't expect I will be one of them, I don't care. Don't make me wait more than 15 minutes for my Applebee's pick up order, and DON'T make me do anything: not wear a mask, not stay home, and definitely not get an OUCHIE in my arm with a needle. I am a completely selfish asshole and I refuse to be inconvenienced for 5 minutes even if it means someone else may get sick or die."

that's WAY off. Here's the definition of natural immunity...

The ability to resist infection that does not depend on prior experience of the invading organism and the resultant production of antibodies or amendment or selection of LYMPHOCYTES. Natural immunity is a general and non-specific resistance to infection possessed by all healthy individuals. Also known as natural resistance.

or

Immunity due to the possession of suitable genetical characteristics rather than immunity produced in response to a vaccine or serum.

And don't eat at Applebee's - have a little pride, man.

By the way Chicken Little, where did you get the data for your "almost all of you will get very sick" claim? how do you still not know the vast majority of people who got infected even with prior strains didn't get very sick at all? I guess if you're going to make up your own definitions, you might as well make up your own facts - but please know, you probably just scared mhughes back into his house for another month.

 

[mhughes0021]

this is also not even close to accurate - all of it completely wrong.

Since you like to be very specific when YOU want....and be very general when you know youre wrong. Answer these simple questions:
We havent been in lockdown...ANYWHERE in the US..in how long?
Antibodies dissipate how long after infection?
How much % of the country isnt boosted?

Heres my answer and we can compare if you want.
Since forever ago
3- 5 months
nearly 80%
...aka were practicing natural immunity and a shit ton of Americans are dying because of it.

 

[tomdalton22]

Since you like to be very specific when YOU want....and be very general when you know youre wrong. Answer these simple questions:
We havent been in lockdown...ANYWHERE in the US..in how long?
Antibodies dissipate how long after infection?
How much % of the country isnt boosted?

Heres my answer and we can compare if you want.
Since forever ago
3- 5 months
nearly 80%
...aka were practicing natural immunity and a shit ton of Americans are dying because of it.

you can't be in favor of a lockdown...are you?

 

[mhughes0021]

you can't be in favor of a lockdown...are you?

Im not...but thats cause i know im safe.

I also know a majority of people dont give a flying fuck and arent safe.....So a lock down is the only thing that can help against a virus that spreads as fast as Omicron. It will never happen....so again ill say....WE ARE practicing natural immunity. And its not working lol.

 

[Michchamp]

Im not...but thats cause i know im safe.

I also know a majority of people dont give a flying fuck and arent safe.....So a lock down is the only thing that can help against a virus that spreads as fast as Omicron. It will never happen....so again ill say....WE ARE practicing natural immunity. And its not working lol.

"Herd immunity" psychos: "Just got to give it more time. we're only up to 863,000 dead in the U.S. We haven't even killed 1,000,000 yet."

 

[Spartanmack]

Since you like to be very specific when YOU want....and be very general when you know youre wrong. Answer these simple questions:
We havent been in lockdown...ANYWHERE in the US..in how long?
Antibodies dissipate how long after infection?
How much % of the country isnt boosted?

Heres my answer and we can compare if you want.
Since forever ago
3- 5 months
nearly 80%
...aka were practicing natural immunity and a shit ton of Americans are dying because of it.

I'm not sure how answers to these questions will make all the wrong stuff you said in the quoted post right, but here you go...

- been a while but doesn't matter - lockdowns don't work
- not sure, but way longer than 3-5 months. Dr. Peter McCullough cites studies that indicate natural immunity is robust and long lasting - might be permanent. Anecdotally, my friend's antibody level was 15x what the CDC considers effective over 11 months after recovery.
- don't care - vaccination should be based on informed consent and while I won't ever tell someone not to get vaccinated, I fully respect their decision not to be. Also, for the 100th time (I'm not actually counting, but it's a lot) vaccines don't prevent infection or spreading COVID.

Shit tons of Americans aren't dying because they're not vaccinated - many of the people who are dying are dying because they're being denied life saving treatments because doctors won't deviate from the government mandated protocols that don't allow for the use of life saving therapeutics. But you don't care about those people - they're not vaccinated so f them.

 

[Spartanmack]

Im not...but thats cause i know im safe.

I also know a majority of people dont give a flying fuck and arent safe.....So a lock down is the only thing that can help against a virus that spreads as fast as Omicron. It will never happen....so again ill say....WE ARE practicing natural immunity. And its not working lol.

I'm safe too - I always was pretty safe because of the precautions I took. Now I'm even more safe having recovered from COVID without getting very sick - just as my doctor told me would happen when he gave me the guidance he did on mitigation protocols. Many of which I'm still practicing because as I said before, while reinfection is almost unheard of for prior strains, people who have recovered from prior strains have gotten infected with Omicron - but with mild to no symptoms.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Applebees is fancy, on a date night, get the Bourbon Street steak and the Oreo Shake?

 

[mhughes0021]

I'm safe too - I always was pretty safe because of the precautions I took. Now I'm even more safe having recovered from COVID without getting very sick - just as my doctor told me would happen when he gave me the guidance he did on mitigation protocols. Many of which I'm still practicing because as I said before, while reinfection is almost unheard of for prior strains, people who have recovered from prior strains have gotten infected with Omicron - but with mild to no symptoms.

A lot of what you mention are great things for when people are sick, or when people have a severe case. You are going down the path of living with this virus....for eternity.

Many who would argue against this point of view arent interested in living with this virus. They were interested in how to defeat it. Id also agree that may be an impossibility now. But only cause people have been dumb for 2 years....we definitely had our chance...and we probably blew it.

Anyways, Earth is probably pretty happy to get rid of a few million more people. Earth is rooting for the next wave to be a 25% death rate. We'll see if that wakes a few people up.

 

[mhughes0021]

Early US data is in. Omicron causes severe cases only half the time as delta.... but infects 4x more people. Mild....

 

[zyxt9]

Considering we did nothing to be safe the first 2 years id say the focus was natural immunity. It didnt work. its proven it doesnt last. And its unknown if it will help fight future strains...cause we dont know wat those mutations are yet. Natural immunity is a better way of saying lets do nothing and let everyone die...which fixes nothing and basically says "lets live with covid forever."

"Everyone" is not dying.

You do not understand yet that your posts are WAY over the top.

Are people dying? Yes.

I am perfectly OK with Darwinism being in charge at this point. It sucks, that is true, but it is also biological.

Those who wish to get the vaccine to hedge their bets may freely do so. Some have preferred going to their preferred place of isolation. Others have preferred to live normally. I respect each individual's decision to do what is right for them. What I don't do is try to force something upon others using fear tactics and extreme hyperbole.

 

[zyxt9]

Here's a perfect example of taking this WAY too far...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/12/americas/quebec-vaccine-mandate-intl/index.html

What's next? The Canadian Inquisition??? Do you submit to taking the vaccine? No! Take him to The Rack. If he still refuses then he can have his arms and legs pulled off and DIE!!! Or use the red hot glowing poker in the eye, mouth, or perhaps the ass...

Yes...YES...TORTURE WILL FORCE THEM INTO BEING VACCINATED!!! BWAHAHAHA

I am fully aware that some on here will see zero issue with what Canada is doing to force people to become vaccinated.

 

[zyxt9]

And yes, fines for this is a potential form ofntorture. If someone cannot afford the fine, the fine could cause said person to go hungry or perhaps homeless. Seems perfectly acceptable to Canadians apparently. So much for their perception of always being overly nice to others.

 

[zyxt9]

Since you like to be very specific when YOU want....and be very general when you know youre wrong. Answer these simple questions:
We havent been in lockdown...ANYWHERE in the US..in how long?
Antibodies dissipate how long after infection?
How much % of the country isnt boosted?

Heres my answer and we can compare if you want.
Since forever ago
3- 5 months
nearly 80%
...aka were practicing natural immunity and a shit ton of Americans are dying because of it.

Since forever ago? Fuck, that doesn't sound like extreme hyperbole at all!

The vaccine was recently announced a possibility of being recommended 6x per year
... so it appears the vaccine only lasts about 2 months.

80%... okaaayyy... but the only thing that actually should matter to YOU is whether or not you are boosted. BTW, which number of booster are you on? 3? If so, you are behind on your shots and I hope for your relative sanity you acquire your 4th soon enough that you feel protected well enough. This is in all seriousness as you seem to need max protection for you mental health as well as physical health, as not having the proper level of boost appears to be an agitation that brings you upsetness which can lead to hypertension and potential heart conditions. Stay calm, safe.

 

[tomdalton22]

it does really seem like this variant does not cause as severe "sickness" as previous variants, but is putting an equal strain on the hospitals. There was an article on CNN yesterday that said that a Michigan hospital reported that 40% of people admitted to the hospital for non-COVID issues tested positive and had to go through quarantine protocols which puts a strain on operations. From an article today about the outbreak in KY. "Right now, we're still seeing sick people that need oxygen, the overwhelming majority of which are unvaccinated. But a lot of the patients that we're seeing right now have underlying chronic conditions that are being exacerbated," Spencer said.
Those patients, he said, can include "someone who gets Covid is dehydrated and needs to stay in the hospital, or someone who gets Covid and is too weak and they can't go home because they're a fall risk. Those aren't as bad in one sense as those kind of classic Covid patients we were seeing before. But every single patient that needs to stay in the hospital takes up a bed. And beds and staffing are what's in short supply right now."