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Cut Stafford....really? Grades as a Top 10 QB

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-matthew-stafford-grading-among-top-10-nfl-qbs-this-season/
MATTHEW STAFFORD GRADING AMONG TOP 10 NFL QBS THIS SEASON.

PFF Analyst and former NFL QB Zac Robinson breaks down the factors behind Matthew Stafford's 2016 success.

Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford is in complete control of his game.
The eight-year pro is in the midst of his best season to date, and heads into Week 14 as Pro Football Focus? seventh-highest-graded QB, with an 86.4 mark.
Stafford?s steady and clutch play in critical moments has seen the Lions rattle off wins in seven of their last eight games, putting Detroit in the driver?s seat for the NFC North race title, at 8-4.
The gunslinger at heart has pulled the reigns back on his game in his past 13 months, with a more disciplined and structured approach.
 
dubbsco said:
Dude, no one said CUT. You can still get value for him.

Here's the bottom line. He's part of the entire formula. If this team truly wants to do it the right way and start from scratch, they need to move on from Stafford. It gives him a chance near the tail end of his career to win with another program and gives the Lions potentially cap space/high draft picks to move forward. Yeah, it's not all that fair to him that he needs to go, but this thing needs to be purged, top to bottom.
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Whoops.
 
Mitchrapp said:
How is he a second tier guy? First game good, 2nd not good, 3rd not good until garbage time, 4th game not good. Last half of last season, good against inferior competition.. I don't even consider him top 20.. And who are these teams? Good teams already have better quarterbacks. So many rookies and 2nd-3rd year players I rather have. He's dog shit.
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Whoops a lot.
 
jared said:
Better than Matt:

Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Wilson
Newton
Rivers
Palmer
Manning

Close to Matt, but I'd rather have the other guy

Carr
Luck
Ryan
Dalton
Flacco
Cousins
Smith

Too soon to tell, but I'd be leaning toward the other guy

Prescott
Wentz
Taylor
Winston

No thanks, I'd take Matt

Hoyer
Romo (injury proned, but is a better QB than Matt if healthy)
Osweiler
Bradford
Fitzpatrick (last year most likely. He is a better QB than Matt)
Keenum
Mariota

The two I would have trouble choosing are:

Bortles
Tannehill

They both have potential, but its hard to say.

I don't really follow the Lions much anymore, so ignore all of this if you want. But I do love this board and still visit here during the season.

Matt is frustrating because the talent is there. He has had some amazing moments leading the team to comebacks.

But he is horribly inconsistent. He makes the ones he should miss and misses the ones he should make.

Flame away, Tony.
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Oops, she shoulda went elsewhere Jared.
 
brewer229 said:
Hey look at that, PFF graded him everywhere from 11th - 21st over the prior 5 years. Pretty close to what I said he was. They should hire me, I was right about him.
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If pff says it, it must be true. The same site probably graded him poorly under Lombardi and great under cooter. Which shows they aren't actually evaluating the player rather the situation.
 
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The same site that graded Aaron Berry on the same level as Richard Sherman?
 
Ooooh...I love a good hindsight bump. These can get nasty in a hurry.
 
sggatecl said:
Ooooh...I love a good hindsight bump. These can get nasty in a hurry.
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Ya a thread from right after we lose to Ten and CHI and our offense is putrid.....totally relevant now lol. Although ill say most of us thought our defense would suck this year and the defense is outperforming the offense. Not entirely sure what that says for the offense lol.
 
mhughes0021 said:
Ya a thread from right after we lose to Ten and CHI and our offense is putrid.....totally relevant now lol. Although ill say most of us thought our defense would suck this year and the defense is outperforming the offense. Not entirely sure what that says for the offense lol.
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Why does it have to say something about the offense? This is an average offense but they control the clock and play mistake-free football. And this offense has a QB that is in the MVP race again. Not bad eh? ;)
I also liked the defense coming into this year. We had Ansah and Taylor as bookends, Ngata plugging up the middle with some youngsters taking snaps like Robinson and Walker, Slay is a baller, Levy was supposed to be healthy, Whitehead is a tackling machine, Quin qbing the secondary. Things were looking up IMO. Now look!! They have been playing lights out on D for a month now. The only thing that scares me about this D is the lack of passrush. That may burn the hell out of us if/when we make the postseason. Other than that...this D is looking scary.
 
dtroitlionsfan951 said:
If pff says it, it must be true. The same site probably graded him poorly under Lombardi and great under cooter. Which shows they aren't actually evaluating the player rather the situation.
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So what's your point of your bump?

Is it your opinion that Stafford is playing exactly at the same level, the only thing that changed is the coordinator?
 
I absolutely despise when threads from months/years ago are bumped to "prove" a point. I didn't know that sports/life were basically static and after one event happens, you can basically assume that's the way we should all feel?

I'm not sure how old this one is, but my fire Caldwell thread got bumped recently. Basically 99 percent of the board felt the same, and it was by the grace of god that the team picked themselves up and managed to make this a very good season. The team was 1-3, lifeless, and just lost to the worst team in football. Stuff changes.

In all my Stafford bashing throughout the years, I always included the fact that it was frustrating because I know the guy is talented but he just hasn't put it together yet. Finally he has, and it's really a good thing to see. I'm happy for the dude.
 
dubbsco said:
I absolutely despise when threads from months/years ago are bumped to "prove" a point. I didn't know that sports/life were basically static and after one event happens, you can basically assume that's the way we should all feel?

I'm not sure how old this one is, but my fire Caldwell thread got bumped recently. Basically 99 percent of the board felt the same, and it was by the grace of god that the team picked themselves up and managed to make this a very good season. The team was 1-3, lifeless, and just lost to the worst team in football. Stuff changes.

In all my Stafford bashing throughout the years, I always included the fact that it was frustrating because I know the guy is talented but he just hasn't put it together yet. Finally he has, and it's really a good thing to see. I'm happy for the dude.
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Dubbsco, I want to clarify something here.
I found the PFFF story on Stafford, and while adding to the Lions notes thread, I look for the recent Stafford threads to add the new current story.
I have done this on other players. My posting the PFFF was to add to the thread, not to do anything that might prove a point or start a shitstorm for 'anyone'.
I am sorry if that is what is going on here since posting it.
Not my intentions ever.
 
No not at all Kaline. This was just more of a general statement on bumping threads from eons ago. No ill will at all towards you.
 
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dubbsco said:
I absolutely despise when threads from months/years ago are bumped to "prove" a point. I didn't know that sports/life were basically static and after one event happens, you can basically assume that's the way we should all feel?

I'm not sure how old this one is, but my fire Caldwell thread got bumped recently. Basically 99 percent of the board felt the same, and it was by the grace of god that the team picked themselves up and managed to make this a very good season. The team was 1-3, lifeless, and just lost to the worst team in football. Stuff changes.

In all my Stafford bashing throughout the years, I always included the fact that it was frustrating because I know the guy is talented but he just hasn't put it together yet. Finally he has, and it's really a good thing to see. I'm happy for the dude.
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The point of the bump is that most of the board are reactionary and use no thoughts of their own to see why things fail or succeed. It's all basic negativity and hate. I've been wrong as well, I was hating on Quinn because of the depth of the team and huge holes on defense that we had going into this season. But it's more so everyone's moronic statements and the ability to constantly go overboard and turn on this team and players who don't deserve it. And it's partially why athletes don't want to come to Detroit. These fans are so worn down over the past they can never let a new culture happen here. And they hate on a guy who has been our most productive quarterback in all of our lifetimes except maybe KC. Y'all are like bizzaro lkps.
 
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