By:
Advanced search…

Welcome to Detroit Sports Forum!

By joining our community, you'll be able to connect with fellow fans that live and breathe Detroit sports just like you!

Get Started
  • If you are no longer able to access your account since our recent switch from vBulletin to XenForo, you may need to reset your password via email. If you no longer have access to the email attached to your account, please fill out our contact form and we will assist you ASAP. Thanks for your continued support of DSF.

Cut Stafford....really? Grades as a Top 10 QB

dubbsco said:
I absolutely despise when threads from months/years ago are bumped to "prove" a point. I didn't know that sports/life were basically static and after one event happens, you can basically assume that's the way we should all feel?

I'm not sure how old this one is, but my fire Caldwell thread got bumped recently. Basically 99 percent of the board felt the same, and it was by the grace of god that the team picked themselves up and managed to make this a very good season. The team was 1-3, lifeless, and just lost to the worst team in football. Stuff changes.

In all my Stafford bashing throughout the years, I always included the fact that it was frustrating because I know the guy is talented but he just hasn't put it together yet. Finally he has, and it's really a good thing to see. I'm happy for the dude.
Click to expand...

God had nothing to do with the turnaround. Take that shit elsewhere
 
dtroitlionsfan951 said:
The point of the bump is that most of the board are reactionary and use no thoughts of their own to see why things fail or succeed. It's all basic negativity and hate. I've been wrong as well, I was hating on Quinn because of the depth of the team and huge holes on defense that we had going into this season. But it's more so everyone's moronic statements and the ability to constantly go overboard and turn on this team and players who don't deserve it. And it's partially why athletes don't want to come to Detroit. These fans are so worn down over the past they can never let a new culture happen here. And they hate on a guy who has been our most productive quarterback in all of our lifetimes except maybe KC. Y'all are like bizzaro lkps.
Click to expand...

The worst argument is: well he is the best we've had, so we should be happy.

Who cares, if he isn't better than average in the current league, then it isn't good enough. For many years you could easily make the case he was average at best.

If you can't see a difference between Stafford this year vs prior years, well I don't know what to say to that. He was missing easy throws all the time, now there maybe 1 a game. Look, he's playing well and people embrace him, funny how that works. But maybe you're right and it's all the coordinators.

I can't imagine players are thinking, well that fans my be negative I don't want to go there.

They probably didn't want to come here because we were such a shitty franchise, they didn't want to live in shitty weather, or they simply could get more money somewhere else. Year after year we were in a bad position with the cap, we couldn't bring in good players.
 
Stafford has always been good. The blind are starting to see. Slowly. Tate,ebron,riddick,jones,boldin dont let him down as much as durham,pettigrew,burleson,leshoure,titus and broyles did

5 reliable weapons. Run game lacks with abdullah hurt but it gets by.
 
brewer229 said:
The worst argument is: well he is the best we've had, so we should be happy.

Who cares, if he isn't better than average in the current league, then it isn't good enough. For many years you could easily make the case he was average at best.

If you can't see a difference between Stafford this year vs prior years, well I don't know what to say to that. He was missing easy throws all the time, now there maybe 1 a game. Look, he's playing well and people embrace him, funny how that works. But maybe you're right and it's all the coordinators.

I can't imagine players are thinking, well that fans my be negative I don't want to go there.

They probably didn't want to come here because we were such a shitty franchise, they didn't want to live in shitty weather, or they simply could get more money somewhere else. Year after year we were in a bad position with the cap, we couldn't bring in good players.
Click to expand...



Better than average is good enough because it has been enough to win a super bowl and it has happened quite a bit with said quarterbacks. And that's the point. However the rest of the team has to be better.
 
God, Jesus, Glory to God in the Highest. Amen!

Take that you heathens, lol.
 
LKP said:
Stafford has always been good. The blind are starting to see. Slowly. Tate,ebron,riddick,jones,boldin dont let him down as much as durham,pettigrew,burleson,leshoure,titus and broyles did

5 reliable weapons. Run game lacks with abdullah hurt but it gets by.
Click to expand...

The blind think that Stafford has always been good. The realists have noticed improvement over the last year and a half in just about every facet of his game. Hes a good qb now. If the Lions dumped him now, Id follow him
 
kdp1980 said:
The blind think that Stafford has always been good. The realists have noticed improvement over the last year and a half in just about every facet of his game. Hes a good qb now. If the Lions dumped him now, Id follow him
Click to expand...

That's funny I might actually root more..

If you could handle Billy Sims getting hurt, or Barry Sanders retiring - you could potentially deal with this.
 
Finished top 8 in QBR this year sandwiched between Andrew Luck and Tyrod Taylor. Down years by Rivers, Big Ben, Wilson, Flacco and Newton....all finishing 10 or below. Good year by staff somehow pulling that off with such a horrible team around him.
 
Last edited:
mhughes0021 said:
Finished top 8 in QBR this year sandwiched between Andrew Luck and Tyrod Taylor. Down years by Rivers, Big Ben, Wilson, Flacco and Newton....all finishing 10 or below. Good year by staff somehow pulling that off with such a horrible team around him.
Click to expand...

Not sure how you got 8, he was 13th.
 
Last edited:
mhughes0021 said:
I got it from the list of final qbr stats? 8th is what I'm showing.

14th in rating.
Click to expand...

Okay. Passing rating imo is the better stat to go by though neither is perfect. QBR has weird things in there. Like sacks and this "5-yard gain on second-and-5 is very different from a 5-yard gain on third-and-10." Makes sense but it's so different.
 
http://www.detroitlions.com/news/ne...sive-MVP/5f659957-1167-4bb4-9de3-418758cba823
Player awards: Offensive MVP.
Quarterback Matthew Stafford was named the Bobby Layne Offensive MVP by his teammates.
Lions.com

This award is given in memory of quarterback Bobby Layne who sparked the Lions to three NFL Championships and four Western Division titles during the 1950s, including back-to-back world championships in 1952 and ?53.
Bobby Layne established virtually every career passing record, including attempts (2,193), completions (1,074), yardage (15,710), and touchdown passes (118).
Layne was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1967.

Stafford surpassed 30,000 yards in the fewest games (109) ever by a quarterback in NFL history.

Stafford broke the previous record of 114 set by Hall of Fame QB Dan Marino and QB Kurt Warner.

Stafford joined Peyton Manning, Marino and Matt Ryan as the only quarterbacks in NFL history to throw for 30,000 yards in their first eight seasons.

Stafford finished the 2016 regular season with 4,327 passing yards, reaching 4,000 in a season for the sixth time in his career and for the sixth-consecutive season.

Stafford joined Manning as the only quarterbacks in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in six of a player's first eight seasons.

Stafford set a new team single-season passing record for percentage of passes intercepted this season.
In 16 games, he compiled an interception percentage of 1.7 (594 attempts, 10 interceptions).
He broke the Lions record among qualifying quarterbacks (min. 200 attempts) that was set in 1998 by QB Charlie Batch (2.0pct ; 303 attempts, 6 interceptions).

Stafford led the Lions on an NFL-record eight game-winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime in 2016.
Stafford's 26 game-winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime since 2011 lead the NFL.

Stafford's 388 completions in 2016 rank fourth all-time in Lions history.
Stafford also concluded the 2016 season with the second-best single-season completion percentage in Lions history, completing 388 of his 594 pass attempts (65.3 percent).

Stafford's 24 touchdown passes in 2016 tie for sixth most in franchise history for a single season.
Stafford's 96 consecutive starts represent the fourth longest active streak among NFL quarterbacks.
 
Remember when they keep trying to compare Matt Stafford to Bobby Lane?? I would have stopped after the first line that read 3 championships and 4 division titles....
 
These folks that post for sidelionreport are just fans right? They aren't in locker rooms or have access to any special film....true?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

About Us

Founded in 2011, Detroit Sports Forum is a community of fanatics dedicated to teams like the Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines, and more. We live and breathe Detroit sports!

Stay Connected

Forum statistics

Threads
35,013
Messages
1,131,076
Members
981
Latest member
harmony

Affiliates

    Discussion Hub
Back
Top