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Injuries doing little to slow down Miggy.
Miguel Cabrera has put together another spectacular season. Making it even more remarkable is that it's come with a significant amount of nagging injuries.
"He's not OK," Detroit manager Jim Leyland said. "He's been playing through some difficulty, but playable, and we'll see how it plays out."

The Tigers' third baseman has been dealing with a abdominal wall strain near his hip flexor for a month, and he is also dealing with a sore knee and bruised shin after he fouled two balls off his leg while facing Mariano Rivera at Yankee Stadium back on Aug. 9.

Through it all, Cabrera hasn't slowed at the plate. He entered Friday's game against the Mets hitting .354 with 40 home runs and 123 RBIs. Cabrera has a .447 on-base percentage. In his first two at-bats against Mets starter Daisuke Matsuzaka, he hit a single and a three-run shot, bringing his homer total to 41 and his RBI total to 126.

Despite the pain and soreness he's battling, his production has remained unmatched.
"For the most part, I don't think it bothers him hitting," Leyland said. "Evidently he can use the lower half to hit."

Instead, Leyland said, the pains take their toll when Cabrera's in the field. Making quick moves to field a ball or having to run in to make a play at third are when the injuries can have the bigger effect.

But with designated hitter Victor Martinez -- who started behind the plate in Friday's game -- hitting so well, Cabrera's not likely to see much time there through the end of the season. Perhaps if Martinez needed a day off, then Leyland said Cabrera could DH, but that would probably be the only scenario for Leyland to do that.

Leyland also said he'll keep it "in-house" as to whether or not he'd give Cabrera a day off, but he would probably speak to the medical staff to see if it's necessary.
But there's no question Cabrera's fighting through some significant pain.
"He's not playing real comfortable right now," Leyland said. "We know that."
from the Tigers official site
 
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...109/1129/rss15
Tigers' Torii Hunter nearly came to blows with Angels teammate Albert Pujols last season.
from the detnews

Do not mess with Torii Hunter.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...-fight-in-2012
Angels' tense times nearly included Pujols, Hunter fight in 2012.
from cbssports

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...s-last-summer/
Torii Hunter and Albert Pujols nearly come to blows last summer.

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2013/08/report_detroit_tigers_torii_hu.html
Torii Hunter had to be physically restrained from punching Angels teammate Albert Pujols last year.
from Mlive
 
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Miguel Cabrera's 126 RBI are most by player through 128 team games since Sammy Sosa (129 in 2001).
 
August 24, 2013: 10th anniversary: best Tigers batting performance.
Ten years ago today, arguably the single greatest one-game clutch performance by any batter in Tigers history occurred.

No, it wasn?t clutch in the sense of having any big playoff repercussions. The 2003 Tigers were as far away from the playoffs as you can possibly be: They lost 119 games. No, this is just in terms of the batter?s impact on the game.

It would be a mathematically verifiable argument, too, as the argument is based on WPA.
WPA?Wins Probability Added?is the ?story stat.? It measures how each plate appearance in the course of a game increases or decreases a team's chance to win the game. Both teams start out with a 50 percent chance of victory, and end with the winner at 100 percent at the loser at 0. It?s a stat designed to quantify how a game feels as it moves along. Therefore, it?s a great way to measure how clutch a player was in a game.

We have WPA for every game for the last 60-plus seasons, and the greatest single-game WPA score ever in Tigers history came on Aug. 24, 2003. The batter was Brandon Inge.
Normally Inge isn?t considered to be a great hitter. In fact, he batted No. 8 for the terrible 2003 Tigers in this game. But on this day he was as good as you could hope for?especially when it mattered most.

On Aug. 13, 2003, the 32-96 Tigers (on pace for the most losses by any AL team ever) hosted the defending world champion Angels. It got off to a rollicking start, with the Angels leading 3-2 after the first inning, and expanding to a 5-2 lead in the top of the second.
The game was rapidly in danger of falling completely out of Detroit?s hands?and then Brandon Inge came to the plate for the first time. With one out and a runner on first and Detroit trailing by three, Inge hit a line drive single to right which outfielder Eric Owens misplayed. Between the single and the error, the run scored and Inge found himself on third.

That?s a funny thing about WPA: the batter gets credit for almost everything that happens to change the course of the game, including errors. Inge?s at-bat shifted Detroit?s chances of winning from 38 percent to 44 percent, and though most of that was on Owens, it tallies in Inge?s favor.

He came up later in the third with two out and a runner on first, but this time harmlessly flew out to end the inning. However, outs in early innings rarely leave big marks on WPA. After all, whoever heard of a third inning fly out being the key play in a game?

Inge next came up in the fifth. Now it was late enough in the game to start getting interesting, in terms of clutch value. And Inge was up at a key moment, indeed. The Tigers had just tied the Angels, 5-5. There were two outs and runners on the corners, so Inge had a great chance help. And help he did. He lashed a single that gave Detroit a 6-5 lead and advanced the trailing runner all the way to third. Just like that, Detroit?s chances for winning leapt from 57 percent up to 71 percent. That?s an impressive move for a fifth inning at-bat.

And then Inge stole second base. A stolen base is one of the few things that doesn?t affect the WPA score of the batter?because it?s all on the runner. It was just a modest uptick in WPA, from 71 to 72 percent, but it was an uptick nonetheless.

The game moved on, and Inge had something that almost never happens in a historically great WPA performance?he made a clutch out. Batting with runners on the corners and two outs (again) in the seventh, Inge made the inning-ending out. That dropped Detroit?s chances of winning down by nine percent, largely?but not fully?negating Inge?s heroics last time up.
Really, it?s a testament to the rest of Inge?s game that he still wound up with the best one-game WPA by a Tigers hitter.

After some more back-and-forth, the Angels took lead, 9-8, and that?s where it stood entering the bottom of the ninth. And that gave Inge his great chance to be a hero.

WPA reckons that the Tigers had just a 20 percent chance to win when the inning began, but a leadoff single boosted it to 34 percent. That?s nice, but a weak pop up and strikeout sent the score plummeting. Just one out from defeat, the Tigers trailed by a run with a man on first. Their chances of winning: just 10 percent.

You can figure out what happened next, right? Right. Inge happened. He worked the count full and then sent a Troy Percival offering over the fence for a Tigers winner. That 10 percent chance to win just became 100 percent.
Overall, Inge had a 1.113 WPA on the day, the only time a Tigers hitter topped 1.000 in one game?s worth of Win Probability Added. And it happened 10 years ago today.
from the Hardball Times
 
August 24, 2013: 10th anniversary: best Tigers batting performance.
Ten years ago today, arguably the single greatest one-game clutch performance by any batter in Tigers history occurred.

No, it wasn?t clutch in the sense of having any big playoff repercussions. The 2003 Tigers were as far away from the playoffs as you can possibly be: They lost 119 games. No, this is just in terms of the batter?s impact on the game.

It would be a mathematically verifiable argument, too, as the argument is based on WPA.
WPA?Wins Probability Added?is the ?story stat.? It measures how each plate appearance in the course of a game increases or decreases a team's chance to win the game. Both teams start out with a 50 percent chance of victory, and end with the winner at 100 percent at the loser at 0. It?s a stat designed to quantify how a game feels as it moves along. Therefore, it?s a great way to measure how clutch a player was in a game.

We have WPA for every game for the last 60-plus seasons, and the greatest single-game WPA score ever in Tigers history came on Aug. 24, 2003. The batter was Brandon Inge.
Normally Inge isn?t considered to be a great hitter. In fact, he batted No. 8 for the terrible 2003 Tigers in this game. But on this day he was as good as you could hope for?especially when it mattered most.

On Aug. 13, 2003, the 32-96 Tigers (on pace for the most losses by any AL team ever) hosted the defending world champion Angels. It got off to a rollicking start, with the Angels leading 3-2 after the first inning, and expanding to a 5-2 lead in the top of the second.
The game was rapidly in danger of falling completely out of Detroit?s hands?and then Brandon Inge came to the plate for the first time. With one out and a runner on first and Detroit trailing by three, Inge hit a line drive single to right which outfielder Eric Owens misplayed. Between the single and the error, the run scored and Inge found himself on third.

That?s a funny thing about WPA: the batter gets credit for almost everything that happens to change the course of the game, including errors. Inge?s at-bat shifted Detroit?s chances of winning from 38 percent to 44 percent, and though most of that was on Owens, it tallies in Inge?s favor.

He came up later in the third with two out and a runner on first, but this time harmlessly flew out to end the inning. However, outs in early innings rarely leave big marks on WPA. After all, whoever heard of a third inning fly out being the key play in a game?

Inge next came up in the fifth. Now it was late enough in the game to start getting interesting, in terms of clutch value. And Inge was up at a key moment, indeed. The Tigers had just tied the Angels, 5-5. There were two outs and runners on the corners, so Inge had a great chance help. And help he did. He lashed a single that gave Detroit a 6-5 lead and advanced the trailing runner all the way to third. Just like that, Detroit?s chances for winning leapt from 57 percent up to 71 percent. That?s an impressive move for a fifth inning at-bat.

And then Inge stole second base. A stolen base is one of the few things that doesn?t affect the WPA score of the batter?because it?s all on the runner. It was just a modest uptick in WPA, from 71 to 72 percent, but it was an uptick nonetheless.

The game moved on, and Inge had something that almost never happens in a historically great WPA performance?he made a clutch out. Batting with runners on the corners and two outs (again) in the seventh, Inge made the inning-ending out. That dropped Detroit?s chances of winning down by nine percent, largely?but not fully?negating Inge?s heroics last time up.
Really, it?s a testament to the rest of Inge?s game that he still wound up with the best one-game WPA by a Tigers hitter.

After some more back-and-forth, the Angels took lead, 9-8, and that?s where it stood entering the bottom of the ninth. And that gave Inge his great chance to be a hero.

WPA reckons that the Tigers had just a 20 percent chance to win when the inning began, but a leadoff single boosted it to 34 percent. That?s nice, but a weak pop up and strikeout sent the score plummeting. Just one out from defeat, the Tigers trailed by a run with a man on first. Their chances of winning: just 10 percent.

You can figure out what happened next, right? Right. Inge happened. He worked the count full and then sent a Troy Percival offering over the fence for a Tigers winner. That 10 percent chance to win just became 100 percent.
Overall, Inge had a 1.113 WPA on the day, the only time a Tigers hitter topped 1.000 in one game?s worth of Win Probability Added. And it happened 10 years ago today.
from the Hardball Times

the moral of that story...WPA is a stupid stat!
 
pregame story Saturday.
Soreness from HBP sidelines Tigers' Iglesias.
Jose Iglesias was not available to play on Saturday against the Mets, Tigers manager Jim Leyland said. The shortstop was hit just above the left elbow in the ninth inning by Mets pitcher David Aardsma on Friday night and the aftermath lingered.

"He's sore, he can't bend his arm," Leyland said. "Hopefully he'll be OK by tomorrow, possibly -- but if we have to rest him until we get home, that's fine."
Leyland also said there was swelling on Friday night.

Iglesias went 0-for-3 on Friday night, but the 23-year-old has been hitting well of late. He's hitting .455 with two doubles, an RBI and three runs in his last seven games. Iglesias, who the Tigers acquired in a deal with the Red Sox at the non-waiver Trade Deadline, leads American League rookies with a .319 batting average with both Boston and Detroit this season.
Ramon Santiago started at shortstop in Iglesias' place on Saturday.
from the Tigers official site
 
Pre Saturdays game story.
Leyland unwilling to negotiate breather for Torii.
Tigers manager Jim Leyland decided to give Torii Hunter a rest on Saturday. Hunter, who had played every day since Tuesday, wanted to be in the starting lineup, but Leyland wasn't budging.

Leyland said it's just a matter of giving Hunter a rest, since he's been playing so much.
"I told him, 'That's my call, and I'm not playing you today,'" Leyland said.

That means Hunter, 38, won't be digging into the batter's box to face the Mets' hard-throwing right-hander Matt Harvey. Hunter, who's played in 114 of the Tigers' 128 games this season, is hitting .306 with 14 home runs and 66 RBIs.

Hunter went 2-for-5 with a home run, double and two RBIs in Detroit's 6-1 win over the Mets on Friday.

Andy Dirks started in right field on Saturday.

While Hunter's out of the lineup against Harvey, Leyland started the right-handed-hitting Matt Tuiasosopo in left field. Left-handed hitters are hitting .169 against Harvey, while righties are hitting .229.

"I don't expect anybody to tear this guy up, that's not going to happen," Leyland said. "But maybe Tuiasosopo can charge one or run into one."
from the Tigers official site
 
Brayan Pena was Detroit's starting catcher on Saturday, which means Victor Martinez wasn't starting behind the plate for a second game in a row. Martinez caught for the first time since Aug. 4, 2011, on Friday night against the Mets. Leyland said aside from some possible soreness, Martinez was physically fine on Saturday.
"As good as shape as you could be in, that's Victor," Leyland said. "He might be a little sore. He's not complaining. He's mad because he's not playing today, really. But that's OK."
Leyland said there's a chance Martinez could catch on Sunday.
 
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