Double tiebreaker for division titles

[tomdalton22]

I am curious how many of you would feel differently if DET was the team, and not the Cubs that now got eliminated.

I would be mad that the Tigers pissed away their opportunity.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm curious how a playin' game adds excitement into a game you find boring?

because it's a winner take all situation. It's almost like a game 7.

 

[biggunsbob]

If they don’t care about regular season as much then mlb should lower the Schedule back to 154 and try to make sure the World Series is played in warmer weather.

 

[tomdalton22]

If they don?t care about regular season as much then mlb should lower the Schedule back to 154 and try to make sure the World Series is played in warmer weather.

If you want the game played in nice weather then play the season from Memorial Day to Labor Day. I mean, you can figure out who the best teams are in 90 games.

 

[SpartyNash]

Baseball should be at most 130 games. But that will never happen, nor will removing the number of teams that qualify for playoffs. Too much money in attendance, concessions, tv contracts, etc.

I like the play in games despite hating it at first. It incentivizes winning the division instead of coasting in as the wild card as previously seen.

Regarding the tiebreakers I find them stupid since the tiebreak should be head to head records. But I won’t complain since I like Milwaukee and hate the cubs.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I am curious how many of you would feel differently if DET was the team, and not the Cubs that now got eliminated.

Well, I would have liked this season right up to that point a lot better than I liked the season that was, that is for sure!

 

[Mitchrapp]

because it's a winner take all situation. It's almost like a game 7.

Game 7? Thank you. :hehe:

 

[turok]

Baseball history forgets the also rans and losing postseason teams, except for maybe pennant winners, but ala the Tigers, who can name off all of the years that their teams have won one w/o looking them up?

If a franchise fails to win it all, then they are really no better off than what $$$ was made from being in the postseason. The Cubs, Indians, Red and White Sox all won pennants throughout the 20th century, but what was most often mentioned was their historic WS championship droughts.

MLB has long seasons, but that is mostly the result of being the national past-time from earlier eras when there weren't anywhere near as many entertainment options as there are now.

 

[tomdalton22]

Game 7? Thank you. :hehe:

yes, a game 7. You know...the winner moves on and the loser goes home. Do you understand?

 

[tinselwolverine]

I would be mad that the Tigers pissed away their opportunity.

Pissed away their opportunity?

In a little over 10 years, the Tigers have lost an LDS, two ALDS and two World Series!

Pissed away their opportunity?

 

[Rebbiv]

Baseball should be at most 130 games. But that will never happen, nor will removing the number of teams that qualify for playoffs. Too much money in attendance, concessions, tv contracts, etc.

I like the play in games despite hating it at first. It incentivizes winning the division instead of coasting in as the wild card as previously seen.

Regarding the tiebreakers I find them stupid since the tiebreak should be head to head records. But I won’t complain since I like Milwaukee and hate the cubs.

Head-to-head, it is CHC over MIL and LAD over COL, so the outcome would still be what it would be based on Divisional record, at least for this year.


The discussion was still about making the season shorter. Do away with the 1-game play in game and alternate starts for each league series and you can shorten the post season by at least 5-6 days.



Realistically, owners are not going to reduce the 162-game schedule. They would agree to starting Spring Training later, for it has no economic impact. A 1-game play-in game really does nothing economically for the loser. The media (TV/Radio) and the winning team make out. Playoff games in generally is a boon for those teams that make it and for the media outlets, who are selling those advertising seconds.



Prior to the second wild card, the speculation was that attendance waned for those teams outside of playoff contention. Historically, that has always happened, even for playoff teams, because summer is over and everyone is going back to school. Playoff aspiration drives TV viewership, not attendance.


Big media contracts and owner revenue is what is driving these decisions. Fox/ESPN are not going to want less games and the 1-game play in adds to their revenue. Owners also have revenue at stack.



The first World Series night game was not until 1971. Until then, World Series games were played in daylight. As it has evolved, there are no more day games in the World Series. TV viewership is a premium at nights.


Game 6 of the 1987 World Series was the last World Series game played in the daytime, indoors at the Metrodome in Minnesota. (The last World Series played outdoors during the day was the final game of the 1984 series in Detroit's Tiger Stadium.)


Also of note, at one point during 154-game schedules, 25% of all the games were scheduled double headers. Not likely that an owner will bring back a scheduled double header, but fans loved them. So if fans love them, that's all that should matter right?

 

[tomdalton22]

(The last World Series played outdoors during the day was the final game of the 1984 series in Detroit's Tiger Stadium.)

Time definitely plays tricks on you. I was at that game and I would have bet my paycheck that it was a night game. I remember the game but can't remember if it was played in the daytime or night. The reason I thought it was a night game because it was dark when we were walking to our car. I remember leaving the stadium and there was chaos in the streets. I saw some cars on fire and people were going nuts. As a young teenager, it was kind of scary.

 

[tigermud]

Once the tigers are done I don’t watch much baseball. Didn’t watch either game 163 didn’t even know who won till this afternoon.. didn’t care.

I suppose I’ll root for JV to win another one. Wish JD well also but can’t stand the thought of Dave winning after failing here which means Boston will win the WS this year just to rub in the pain cuz that’s how life as a tigers/lions fan rolls!

 

[tinselwolverine]

Time definitely plays tricks on you. I was at that game and I would have bet my paycheck that it was a night game. I remember the game but can't remember if it was played in the daytime or night. The reason I thought it was a night game because it was dark when we were walking to our car. I remember leaving the stadium and there was chaos in the streets. I saw some cars on fire and people were going nuts. As a young teenager, it was kind of scary.

Chaos in the streets and cars on fire and people going nuts doesn’t necessarily tell you whether it’s day or night in Detroit.

It was a daytime start. I think it was heading toward twilight when it ended. I was one year out of the University of Michigan, and the glee club sang the national anthem. I was in an octet at Performing at Wiard’s orchard, and one of the guys in the octet, His brother who was the president of the club at the time, and they had to borrow my glee club jacket for some of the new guys who didn’t have their jackets yet, to Perform the national anthem on international television.

After We performed, my girlfriend at the time who is in the Octet, Headed over to our friends house on division Street in Ann Arbor to watch the end of the game. I remember it definitely being near dusk.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQJR5C8ZOoQ

Or I should say, going from dusk to nightfall:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uThjULHBrjo

 

[Rebbiv]

A 4:45 PM start (considered a day game), ending around 7:40 PM. In summer, is still in daylight at 7:40 PM and sunset is around 8:30 PM. On that date in October, sunset was 6:53 PM.


1984 WS Start Times (Eastern):


Game 1 = October 9 (TUE), 8:35 PM (at SD)
Game 2 = October 10 (WED), 8:25 PM (at SD)
Game 3 = October 12 (FRI), 8:35 PM (at DET)
Game 4 = October 13 (SAT), 1:30 PM (at DET)
Game 5 = October 14 (SUN), 4:45 PM (at DET)

 

[tomdalton22]

Chaos in the streets and cars on fire and people going nuts doesn?t necessarily tell you whether it?s day or night in Detroit.

It was a daytime start. I think it was heading toward twilight when it ended. I was one year out of the University of Michigan, and the glee club sang the national anthem. I was in an octet at Performing at Wiard?s orchard, and one of the guys in the octet, His brother who was the president of the club at the time, and they had to borrow my glee club jacket for some of the new guys who didn?t have their jackets yet, to Perform the national anthem on international television.

After We performed, my girlfriend at the time who is in the Octet, Headed over to our friends house on division Street in Ann Arbor to watch the end of the game. I remember it definitely being near dusk.

I thought I saw you out there singing. You were the one kneeling...right?