Eagles shopping Asante... Again

[wheels002]

Asante has all the power here much like he did last year when he called off the deal to the Lions. He is only going to restructure for what he feels is an ideal location. Not that I blame him on that one.

 

[lp4ever41]

Asante has all the power here much like he did last year when he called off the deal to the Lions. He is only going to restructure for what he feels is an ideal location. Not that I blame him on that one.

He didn't call it off. They had agreed to two Day 2 picks, but the Eagles changed their minds and asked for a first, and Detroit said no.

 

[schles192]

Damn man, 5th and 6th. I'd do that but we have no 6th and no cap room anyway..

Our 5th next year is about the same. No cap room though. Good move for Denver if they can get it done.

 

[tsmith7559]

you will have to convert his base salary into a SB and guarantee at least two years @ $13MIll total

 

[schles192]

The Inquirer reported Friday that they are willing to accept a fifth- or sixth-round pick, ESPN's Adam Schefter doesn't believe the Eagles will be able to net more than sixth-rounder for Samuel

 

[schles192]

you will have to convert his base salary into a SB and guarantee at least two years @ $13MIll total

Converting to a signing bonus would only work if you tacked on years and that would be the worst thing we could do. He needs a new contract.

CB Asante Samuel is scheduled to make $10 million this season and $11.5 million in 2013 with a $100,000 workout bonus for each season.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I wish we had the money. 6th round pick, very reasonable.

 

[tsmith7559]

Converting to a signing bonus would only work if you tacked on years and that would be the worst thing we could do. He needs a new contract.

CB Asante Samuel is scheduled to make $10 million this season and $11.5 million in 2013 with a $100,000 workout bonus for each season.

I dont think so, 2014 the cap is scheduled to go up......having $2 Mill of dead money for Asante wouldn't be a big deal. Hopefully give us time to develop a couple draft picks. At his age get him for 2 years

 

[Slick]

After having flat caps of $120.375 million in 2011 and $120.6 million in 2012, the NFL management council told clubs Tuesday that the cap won't increase much in the next three years. In fact, the 2015 cap may go up to only $122 million, according to management council projections.

Although the cap numbers for 2013, 2014 and 2015 still can be negotiated, projections point to very little increase. The cap may rise by only $300,000 in 2013, going to around $120.9 million. Even though increased network television money is coming in 2014, the cap is projected to go only into the $121-plus million range.

 

[tsmith7559]

After having flat caps of $120.375 million in 2011 and $120.6 million in 2012, the NFL management council told clubs Tuesday that the cap won't increase much in the next three years. In fact, the 2015 cap may go up to only $122 million, according to management council projections.

Although the cap numbers for 2013, 2014 and 2015 still can be negotiated, projections point to very little increase. The cap may rise by only $300,000 in 2013, going to around $120.9 million. Even though increased network television money is coming in 2014, the cap is projected to go only into the $121-plus million range.

maybe Obama needs to follow the NFL with slim to none budget increases
NFLPA has a different idea of things

 

[schles192]

I dont think so, 2014 the cap is scheduled to go up......having $2 Mill of dead money for Asante wouldn't be a big deal. Hopefully give us time to develop a couple draft picks. At his age get him for 2 years

Not sure how you figure 2 mil of dead space but it would be more than that. If you tack on an extra year with 21.5 in guaranteed and you are trying to get him to 7 a year for the next 2 years that?s 7 mil you pushed to the 3rd and final year. If you cut him after June 1st that?s 3.5 in 2014 and 3.5 in 2015. Not a cap killer but not what you want with such a tight cap and so many star players needing to get paid.

Converting to a SB like we did for Suh and Stafford works for them because they still have multiple years left and the money tapers off at the end so your just pushing that guaranteed money to the end. Asante only has 2 years left with the money increasing in the final year. No way to push money back unless your adding years. If your adding years both parties need to agree, if your both agreeing on how much he should make just sign a new contract with incentives that we agree on (not phili).

Asante is guaranteed 21.5 over the next 2 years. He's not going to want to lose that money so we would have to give him more money over more years. It really depends on how many quality years they think they can get out of him. At 31 4 years seems about right. 8mil in 2012, 7 in 2013, 5 in 2014, 3 in 2015. If they did something like that he would be getting 23 mil in guaranteed plus any incentives.

 

[tsmith7559]

Not sure how you figure 2 mil of dead space but it would be more than that. If you tack on an extra year with 21.5 in guaranteed and you are trying to get him to 7 a year for the next 2 years that’s 7 mil you pushed to the 3rd and final year. If you cut him after June 1st that’s 3.5 in 2014 and 3.5 in 2015. Not a cap killer but not what you want with such a tight cap and so many star players needing to get paid.

Converting to a SB like we did for Suh and Stafford works for them because they still have multiple years left and the money tapers off at the end so your just pushing that guaranteed money to the end. Asante only has 2 years left with the money increasing in the final year. No way to push money back unless your adding years. If your adding years both parties need to agree, if your both agreeing on how much he should make just sign a new contract with incentives that we agree on (not phili).

Asante is guaranteed 21.5 over the next 2 years. He's not going to want to lose that money so we would have to give him more money over more years. It really depends on how many quality years they think they can get out of him. At 31 4 years seems about right. 8mil in 2012, 7 in 2013, 5 in 2014, 3 in 2015. If they did something like that he would be getting 23 mil in guaranteed plus any incentives.

Apparently, he will be cut if he isn't traded???? so the $21 Mill isn't guaranteed.
My proposal was to re-structure, fully guaranteeing $13 Mill for 2 years(including a $6 SB and extend him one year, thereby, allowing 1/3 of the SB to go into 2014.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Just wait until he's cut. If you can afford him and wants to come, cool, otherwise draft two CB this week.

 

[Slick]

all this arguing over Asante Samuel...lol , the Lions cant do jackshit until they deal with Avril.

 

[tsmith7559]

all this arguing over Asante Samuel...lol , the Lions cant do jackshit until they deal with Avril.

sure they can, they have options if Samuel agrees to a new deal/re-structure

 

[mhughes0021]

Samuel to denver....prior to the draft

 

[Slick]

sure they can, they have options if Samuel agrees to a new deal/re-structure

let me know when he signs here....:tup:

 

[schles192]

Apparently, he will be cut if he isn't traded???? so the $21 Mill isn't guaranteed.
My proposal was to re-structure, fully guaranteeing $13 Mill for 2 years(including a $6 SB and extend him one year, thereby, allowing 1/3 of the SB to go into 2014.

My understanding is that it?s all guaranteed, if he gets cut he still gets it. As for a restructure I wouldn't do it, but I'm greedy. 21 mil or 13 mil, not really a tough decision.

 

[lp4ever41]

My understanding is that it?s all guaranteed, if he gets cut he still gets it. As for a restructure I wouldn't do it, but I'm greedy. 21 mil or 13 mil, not really a tough decision.

There's no chance its all guaranteed. The Eagles would never have offered him such a dumb contract.

Most likely, almost none of it is guaranteed. If he didn't agree to Denver's terms, he probably won't agree to anyone's, so he'll either stay with the Eagles or get cut.

 

[schles192]

all this arguing over Asante Samuel...lol , the Lions cant do jackshit until they deal with Avril.

It's not really arguing but ya Avril is the key. Hope he signs his tender before the draft....

Trade Avril, draft CB, OL, DE, RB, S in the first 4 Rds, then trade for Asante.