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Even the biggest Stafford fans

dubbsco

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Have to had their confidence shook in his ability today. If this game doesn't prove he's a poor QB, I don't know what else will.
 
He's done. With all the promise he showed early in his career, I am still reluctant to let go. But, it's time...
 
Even if you are still an ardent Stafford supporter, you have to admit the dude needs a change of scenery and a fresh start.
 
Here comes Tony!

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The problem with any "Get rid of Stafford" thread is that it almost always ignores that somebody else still has to play QB. We have seen just today that Orlovsky isn't any better. This year's draft doesn't have a clear cut star QB available no matter how high we pick. Stafford is better than the retreads we would find in free agency.

That's not saying we should continue building our team around him. We shouldn't. But we're not getting any better until changes are made in other areas anyway.
 
We need offensive Linemen first and foremost. No QB will be worth a shit with this cast of characters.
 
The problem with any "Get rid of Stafford" thread is that it almost always ignores that somebody else still has to play QB. We have seen just today that Orlovsky isn't any better. This year's draft doesn't have a clear cut star QB available no matter how high we pick. Stafford is better than the retreads we would find in free agency.

That's not saying we should continue building our team around him. We shouldn't. But we're not getting any better until changes are made in other areas anyway.

But he's cheaper.
 
But he's cheaper.

You are right. And this is the first year that cutting Stafford could be smart financially. I just don't see a better option immediately available. Who is the top QB in the draft? Goff? A junior who just threw 5 picks against the only quality defense he faced.

Getting rid of Stafford's contract sounds really good until you remember that we'd be relying on Mayhew to rebuild with that money.
 
You are right. And this is the first year that cutting Stafford could be smart financially. I just don't see a better option immediately available. Who is the top QB in the draft? Goff? A junior who just threw 5 picks against the only quality defense he faced.

Getting rid of Stafford's contract sounds really good until you remember that we'd be relying on Mayhew to rebuild with that money.

It's been said anyone could be 0-5.
 
Have to had their confidence shook in his ability today. If this game doesn't prove he's a poor QB, I don't know what else will.

I talked to Carl, he's no longer a supporter. He was the last holdout.
 
My issue is that if we get rid of an average QB before his contract even ends (and again, it's not like the team has been that smart about money), how long does it take before we have someone that good or better? Stafford has sucked bad this year, but he IS capable of managing a pretty good offense. I don't want to become the Jets without the awesome defense.
 
My issue is that if we get rid of an average QB before his contract even ends (and again, it's not like the team has been that smart about money), how long does it take before we have someone that good or better? Stafford has sucked bad this year, but he IS capable of managing a pretty good offense. I don't want to become the Jets without the awesome defense.

2012-2015 says he's not capable.
 
My answer. Feel free to debate. Keep Stafford. Hire Linehan as HC.
 
If we move Stafford, we need to go total rebuild. I mean total, sell off Tate, Calvin, Ngata, and anyone we can move for draft picks. Keep only players on their first or just starting their second contracts, focusing on players signed long enough to still be around when the new young players have developed. Because the team will be really bad without a QB, and until we get a good one, there's no reason to keep holding onto anybody not in the future plans.

That's certainly a plan, just one I am loathe to encourage. My entire lifetime feels like it's been that plan.
 
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