Even the biggest Stafford fans

[Mitchrapp]

The Redding INT was a good play by him. Same with the 1st INT but still poorly thrown balls by Matt.

 

[kdp1980]

Throwing a ball 1 foot over a dlinemens head hardly means the dlinemen made a good play. Reminded me of his throw to Watt in the probowl. IMO, a quarterback should never throw a pick to s dlinemen, unless he gets hit as he throws. We draft te's that are suppose to be bad matchups for linebackers, yet Stafford gets picked by linebackers all the fucking time. Pathetic. I think Chad Greenway has picked him around 6 times.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Throwing a ball 1 foot over a dlinemens head hardly means the dlinemen made a good play. Reminded me of his throw to Watt in the probowl. IMO, a quarterback should never throw a pick to s dlinemen, unless he gets hit as he throws. We draft te's that are suppose to be bad matchups for linebackers, yet Stafford gets picked by linebackers all the fucking time. Pathetic. I think Chad Greenway has picked him around 6 times.

The fact he made the deflection and then came down with it.. That's a good play. Matt still threw a poor ball but Corey still made a play.

 

[kdp1980]

Agree to disagree. Pathetic, bush league throw, that's all I know.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Agree to disagree. Pathetic, bush league throw, that's all I know.

I'm sorry, did I say it wasn't. Sometimes I miss stuff but didn't I say, three times now, that he made poor throws? I must be getting old.

 

[kdp1980]

I'm just saying the play wasn't anything of note, just that bad of a throw.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm just saying the play wasn't anything of note, just that bad of a throw.

What wasn't much of anything was when Tate, ala Kris Durham, just threw the ball to the other team.

 

[kmd47]

Either you fire Lombardi or keep him on and have Caldwell call plays.... If I, a pleb at home, can call the play 80% of the time.... Sucks to think how much the other team knows... I don't know if the playbook is too vanilla or what, but something has to change.

 

[brewer229]

What do you mean you can call the play? You can call all the routes for every player? Or you can call run or pass?

 

[boogerlovejoy]

What do you mean you can call the play? You can call all the routes for every player? Or you can call run or pass?

I think most fans could call out run/pass most of the time because

A. its 50/50
B. situations usually dictate it pretty clearly
C. they know their team.

I think what other teams are noticing is much more involved. Personnel groupings......formations......motion.....shifts.......route concepts....

It seems to me Lombardi has cut off the upper 1/2 of the route tree in this offense and is going to use it in his house for Christmas.

Something pretty simple to see.......the Lions throw it 96% of the time Theo Riddick is in the game. Eh.....probably fairly normal for a 3rd down back......but add in the personnel grouping he is typically in and the formation.......and you can usually tell if he's getting a screen pass or if he's going to run that little angle route out of the backfield. Add to that the lack of imagination in Lombardi's offense......and it's a good bet anyone actually scouting the Lions is going to be able to call out exact plays some of the time.....as was the case on Reddings interception.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

If you are a qb and you hear the defensive coach calling out the play you are set to run, why the heck would you not check to another play.

Holy balls.....if you actually think Stafford is listening to the opponents coaching staff while he is calling out protections and looking at the defense while there is a crowd noise of some 50,000 people.....you're not intelluhgent.

Just stop posting......right now.......NO SOUP FOR YOU, ONE YEAR!!!!

 

[tbone413]

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/...e-between-matthew-stafford-or-coaching-staff/

Detroit Lions Need To Decide Between Matthew Stafford, Coaching Staff

By Jamal Cadoura on October 13, 2015

Nobody really discusses the Detroit Lions? 11-5 2014 season anymore.

At this point, it doesn?t matter anymore. The Lions have regressed, and it?s only getting worse. At 0-5, Detroit is the league?s worst team and punchline. They were a defensive team last year with a subpar offense. Now, nobody knows what this team?s identity is. The offense has gotten worse. The defense has taken a step back. Matthew Stafford and this offense are an abysmal and humiliating unit. What good is there to praise at this point?

But the Lions are faced with a dilemma: Stafford or this coaching staff. Detroit needs to pick one. This marriage between head coach Jim Caldwell and Stafford isn?t working. Detroit?s offense features dynamic players like Calvin Johnson, Ameer Abdullah, Golden Tate, Eric Ebron and Theo Riddick. It not only isn?t explosive ? it?s worse than last year?s. How that?s possible, no one knows. But people can see that whatever system Caldwell and Joe Lombardi are running, it?s not working.

Players are confused. Tate stands stiffly, an angered look in his eyes, hands on his hips, as this offense burns timeouts to align themselves. Stafford is lifeless on the sidelines after he tosses interception after interception. All we hear Caldwell preach is execution ? and he?s right, to a degree. Only the execution should be the Lions organization getting rid of one or the other.

This restrictive system doesn?t fit Stafford. He?s not a precise QB who can consistently decipher opposing defenses with quick reads. His gunslinger mentality doesn?t fit a controlled system that coddles that cannon of his. And it?s not only Stafford who?s struggling, it?s everyone.

Multiple offensive players are regressing and remaining underutilized in Caldwell?s system. Tate has more touchdowns in one preseason game than he has throughout five regular games. Johnson isn?t going deep as often. Younger clutch contributors of last season, like Riddick and Corey Fuller, aren?t played as often as they should be. These are players who fit Stafford?s gun-the-ball mentality.

Don?t misconstrue it: Stafford isn?t an elite QB. But he?s certainly better than what he?s been this season. He can find the end zone a heck of a lot more than he?s been. He can move the ball better than this. If Detroit wants an upgrade at QB, fine. Just make sure your selection is the real deal.

Until then, the team has to ride it out with Stafford. And that means picking either Stafford or this coaching staff, because this combination isn?t viable.

I think the author of this article pretty much answered her own question...the coaching staff needs to be let go (Id also argue heavily for the Front office too, and Stafford lol - but to keep the scope of this article we will go with just one of those two options).

If it was only Stafford who had regressed/struggled, but the ground game was clicking, the O-Line was performing well, and the coaches made solid decisions (as in not blowing timeouts like its coke off a hookers tit), then Id say a case could be made for keeping the coaching staff over Stafford, but that's not the case at all...Infact, id argue that this coaching staff (I should say Offensive staff) hasnt helped a single player improve since taking over. Honestly, I cant think of one offensive player who has improved (or even maintained) their level of play the past 1.5 years...its abundantly clear this staff is the wrong choice and needs to get the boot.