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Executive order and Business ties

biggunsbob

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It seems like the executive order banning immigrants has missed the countries Trump has business ties with ? Is this true? I have to head out and have not had a chance to look it up. The order and day it was implemented reeks Steve Bannon to me. Bannon has even more power now it seems what a scary thought that is :/
 
This is what Trump promised he'd do even before he picked Bannon so this is all Trump. I like the order, it's temp. until they can get a good vetting system in place.
 
The fact it includes immigrants with green cards and a high number of well respected scientists are now forced to leave the country probably means this was not very well thought out. ....im guessing most of trumps orders won't be very well thought out considering 1) Hes a moron and 2) his advisors are morons.
 
Fun fact: the Cato Institute reports that “Foreigners from those seven [banned] nations have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015,” according to the New York Times.
 
Donald Trump’s banned list doesn’t include majority Muslim countries where the Trump organization has done business or pursued potential deals including the United Arab Emirates (golf courses) and Turkey (luxury towers.)

Curiously, the ban also does not include Saudi Arabia—a country at least indirectly linked to the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York City’s Twin Towers in 2001.
 
So what do you not like about the current vetting system?

Based on some of the terrorist attacks over the last 16 years I guess. Is this perfect, no. Will it have it's problems, i.e not letting in ones that should get in, probably. But he ran on it, people voted for him because it - so he did it.

I'm more curious what the process is after the temp ban is over with.
 
Based on some of the terrorist attacks over the last 16 years I guess. Is this perfect, no. Will it have it's problems, i.e not letting in ones that should get in, probably. But he ran on it, people voted for him because it - so he did it.

I'm more curious what the process is after the temp ban is over with.

Then why doesn't he actually ban the countries that have citizens that have actually committed a terriost attack here? Maybe because he has business ties with them?
 
Then why doesn't he actually ban the countries that have citizens that have actually committed a terriost attack here? Maybe because he has business ties with them?

No idea, I doubt anyone else does either. Just guesses. Regardless, it's 3 months. If it hurts someones feeling oh well. My immediate concern is my Humana insurance is going up from $54 a month to over a $130.
 
Its ridclues they forgot the green card holders and contractors with the United states armed forces and to lump Iraq in with Iran then ask them to die for American fighting Isis which they already do just shows this administration swamp is a jv squad.
The hypocrites left out all or most of Trump's countries he does business in . The judge correctly ruled this was wrong and issued a stay. BTW immigrants are already throughly vetted. American liberty is freedom of religion. Country was founded on religious tolerance, and freedom for all. The ban is unconstitutional.
 
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So it's Obama's doing. Okay then.


From the Executive order:


[?] to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas). (link)

U.S.C.1187 Law Link Here

The President Obama Department of Homeland Security already targeted those seven listed countries for the past several years as nations of concern.

In February of 2016 the Department of Homeland Security announced that was continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of additional concern.

DHS: ?limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.? DHS noted ?the three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals.?

President Trump is carrying out an executive action in support of the US Customs and Border Protection Act of 2015, which relates to ?the Visa Waiver Program and Terrorist Travel Protection Act of 2015?. President Trump did not select seven countries ? the US Congress and Obama?s Department of Homeland Security had singled out these countries.

Nowhere in President Trump?s executive order does he single out any country for VISA suspension. Instead what his XO does is say he?s suspending visa approvals from countries already outlined by the Obama administration as representing a specific threat such that they were categorized for extreme visa vetting by: 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12)
 
No idea, I doubt anyone else does either. Just guesses. Regardless, it's 3 months. If it hurts someones feeling oh well. My immediate concern is my Humana insurance is going up from $54 a month to over a $130.

Then get a new one. ..
 
Fun fact: the Cato Institute reports that ?Foreigners from those seven [banned] nations have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015,? according to the New York Times.

The 3 he didn't include that he does business in are directly responsible for over 3000 American deaths. Trump is a corrupt fuck. And we are now a country with detainment camps all across our country. Took him 2 weeks to turn us into nazi Germany lol. Go usa!
 
No idea, I doubt anyone else does either. Just guesses. Regardless, it's 3 months. If it hurts someones feeling oh well. My immediate concern is my Humana insurance is going up from $54 a month to over a $130.

Get ready for that great GOP plan they have been tauting for 8 years. Lol. My guess is it will either go way up or or way down under Orange jesus and if it comes way down like you hope get ready for no coverage on alot of things because some of those plans being leaked are terrible in its coverage.


SINGLE PAYER !!!!!! Coming to America in 5-15 years, and it's going to be fantastic ..
 
Its ridclues they forgot the green card holders and contractors with the United states armed forces and to lump Iraq in with Iran then ask them to die for American fighting Isis which they already do just shows this administration swamp is a jv squad.
The hypocrites left out all or most of Trump's countries he does business in . The judge correctly ruled this was wrong and issued a stay. BTW immigrants are already throughly vetted. American liberty is freedom of religion. Country was founded on religious tolerance, and freedom for all. The ban is unconstitutional.

Times have changed. It's okay on Freedom and then people die. If we have a ban or wall it's still Freedom here. They're just not letting everyone in.. I'm an American and I still have the same rights and freedom I always had. You do know Obama limited refugee's as well?
 
Get ready for that great GOP plan they have been tauting for 8 years. Lol. My guess is it will either go way up or or way down under Orange jesus and if it comes way down like you hope get ready for no coverage on alot of things because some of those plans being leaked are terrible in its coverage.


SINGLE PAYER !!!!!! Coming to America in 5-15 years, and it's going to be fantastic ..

Leaked? By who, CNN - a leftist paper? It has to be better than my insurance going to 120%
 
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