Ferguson, MO

[tinselwolverine]

why do people keep harping on the fact that they shot an unarmed black woman? They couldn't even see who they were shooting at since the door was closed. Plus, they were definitely shooting at someone that was armed...since they were fired upon first.

Well, for better or worse, the people of Kentucky exonerated the police of any criminal wrongdoing regarding the death of Breonna Taylor.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I?m not worried. I never was.

I mean with the less than 5% that do.

 

[sggatecl]

Well, for better or worse, the people of Kentucky exonerated the police of any criminal wrongdoing regarding the death of Breonna Taylor.

To the surprise of nobody.

 

[tomdalton22]

Well, for better or worse, the people of Kentucky exonerated the police of any criminal wrongdoing regarding the death of Breonna Taylor.

they probably got it right. The police were shot at and they shot back.

 

[Gulo Blue]

they probably got it right. The police were shot at and they shot back.

People seem to stop there looking for blame, but I think it's pretty clear something went wrong in the process of intelligence gathering and decision making leading up to the raid.

 

[Michchamp]

People seem to stop there looking for blame, but I think it's pretty clear something went wrong in the process of intelligence gathering and decision making leading up to the raid.

see post #1571 of this thread

 

[Gulo Blue]

see post #1571 of this thread

Exactly, you're not posting some controversial conspiracy website. It's wikipedia.

 

[Michchamp]

something goes wrong in a lot of "no knock" raids.

police aren't responsible enough to have that power.

 

[Michchamp]

I've read accusations that no-knock raids, specifically the one the cops conducted where they murdered Breonna Taylor, are part of a larger scheme of gentrification. The arrangement is that local developers get the police to harass, and charge local residents that they can't otherwise evict with a felony. I guess if someone is section 8, the only grounds to evict them is that they've been charged or convicted of a felony.

Presumably there is some sort of cash payment for these services, maybe filtered through local politicians.

In case you're looking to point fingers, understand that it's pretty easy to charge people with felonies, and police planting drugs/guns on innocent people is not unheard of.

There was a recent article in Mother Jones where a former Atlanta cop resigned and told the whole story (link). They allegedly retaliated against him after.

 

[Michchamp]

I read a twitter thread a couple months ago that had an interesting history of the portrayal of police in American art & media.

I recognize this is all unsourced, by the way. I can't find the thread now, and wasn't able to find articles about this.

Basically, pre-1940, the protagonists in crime novels, films and TV shows were either private detectives, lone ranger types, or former cops... never actual on-duty police officers. The reason being is that the general public understanding that the police were a thoroughly corrupted protection racket for the rich and big business meant that any media that had police protagonists would be laughed off as too unrealistic.

prior to 1940, the police in media were either shown as bumbling idiots (like the Keystone Kops) or corrupt thugs, enforcing the writ of business tycoons & protecting their interests, but definitely NOT serving and protecting the public.

In the 1930's, FDR appointed commissions to reform censorship codes of American media. I guess there were a lot of Irish Catholic priests on these commissions, who sought to improve the image of Catholic Americans in media, and so pushed to have more positive portrayals of police in movies and TV shows... Police Departments were also heavily Irish American.

So... that got the pendulum swinging one way. In the late 60's, police portrayals in media became even more decoupled from reality, with pro-police propaganda like Dragnet "COPS," and other police procedurals airing on TV.

This article kinda picks up from that, but doesn't have the backstory prior to the 60's. I haven't found anything documenting that, other than the twitter thread I read.

 

[Thumb]

they probably got it right. The police were shot at and they shot back.

Idiocy at it's finest.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Someone, or many someones, screwed up so bad that someone is dead, and a plea deal was offered to the ex-boyfriend criminal if he would implicate the victim. I don't know why anybody is questioning the existence of protests.

 

[Michchamp]

Someone, or many someones, screwed up so bad that someone is dead, and a plea deal was offered to the ex-boyfriend criminal if he would implicate the victim. I don't know why anybody is questioning the existence of protests.

cause they don't give a shit about black people, and don't really have a problem with police killing them?

 

[tinselwolverine]

cause they don't give a shit about black people, and don't really have a problem with police killing them?

I don?t know that anyone is questioning the existence of protests - they?re obviously happening.

Here is video evidence.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDleG6pyFbI

 

[Gulo Blue]

I don?t know that anyone is questioning the existence of protests - they?re obviously happening.

Here is video evidence.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDleG6pyFbI

Well shit. Fine. 'questioning the reasons for the existence'. Now I feel pedantic.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Someone, or many someones, screwed up so bad that someone is dead, and a plea deal was offered to the ex-boyfriend criminal if he would implicate the victim. I don't know why anybody is questioning the existence of protests.

In #1571, Champ posted a link to an obscure site about the plea deal, but I see that more credible sources have been reporting it.

Now, certainly the cops could have been using this tactic with no credible evidence against Breonna Taylor. Or maybe they were using this tactic with credible evidence against Breonna Taylor that we?re not aware of. Or maybe the defendant is just making it up. Any and all of these types of things have happened in the past.

I don?t know what if this would have been presented to the grand jury, and grand jury procedures are secret.

 

[Gulo Blue]

In #1571, Champ posted a link to an obscure site about the plea deal, but I see that more credible sources have been reporting it.

Now, certainly the cops could have been using this tactic with no credible evidence against Breonna Taylor. Or maybe they were using this tactic with credible evidence against Breonna Taylor that we’re not aware of. Or maybe the defendant is just making it up. Any and all of these types of things have happened in the past.

I don’t know what if this would have been presented to the grand jury, and grand jury procedures are secret.

I think there's two ways (ok many ways, but here's two) you can look at this thing wrong. It's wrong to judge the individual cops based on context beyond their own actions and motives. But it's also wrong to judge the protesters without including all the context of what has come before.

 

[tomdalton22]

WNBA players wear T shirts with 7 bullet holes for Jacob Blake.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/sport/ariel-atkins-wnba-athletes-protest-cmd-spt-intl/index.html

Come on girls...get it right. The cop missed him several times...too many bullet holes in the shirt.

Also, they are kind of supporting a man that abuses women.

 

[tinselwolverine]

WNBA players wear T shirts with 7 bullet holes for Jacob Blake.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/sport/ariel-atkins-wnba-athletes-protest-cmd-spt-intl/index.html

Come on girls...get it right. The cop missed him several times...too many bullet holes in the shirt.

Also, they are kind of supporting a man that abuses women.

Are the holes where their boobs are?

 

[Polish-Hammer]

Damn, are the physical requirements for a police officer in Chicago is simply having a pulse?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jsd-0E4NoM&ab_channel=PoliceActivity