Ferguson, MO

[byco42]

Damn, are the physical requirements for a police officer in Chicago is simply having a pulse?

Malone: Why do you want to be a police officer?
Williamson: To protect the... people and the... p...
Malone: I'm not looking for the "yearbook" answer. Why do you want to join the force.
Williamson: The force?
Malone: Yeah, why do you want to join the force.
Williamson: Because... I...
Malone: Yeah?
Williamson: ...think I could help.
Malone: You think you could help.
Williamson: ...with the force.
Malone: Thank you very much, you've been most helpful.
[Williamson leaves]
Malone: [to Ness] There goes the next chief of police.

 

[tomdalton22]

Damn, are the physical requirements for a police officer in Chicago is simply having a pulse?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jsd-0E4NoM&ab_channel=PoliceActivity

those cops should be fired. They should have talked to him calmly. No need for the use of force. Maybe a social worker should have been there to take care of the situation.

Didn't Jacob Blake have a knife too?

 

[Polish-Hammer]

those cops should be fired. They should have talked to him calmly. No need for the use of force. Maybe a social worker should have been there to take care of the situation.

Didn't Jacob Blake have a knife too?

I believe they found a knife in the car.

 

[tomdalton22]

I believe they found a knife in the car.

yes they did.

I guess the police are supposed to let him stab them first, like they did in Chicago.

 

[byco42]

Seems this.officer was woefully undertrained for field work. At the very least, simply retreat from the attacker. Or withdraw the nightstick and delver a blow to the bridge of the nose or to his wrist. Or get inside the arc of the weapon. Anything but screaming and remaining a stabbing dummy.

 

[Michchamp]

so you're showing a video of an obvious justified use of deadly force... why?

what does that have to do with George Floyd, Breanna Taylor, etc.?

Granted, the issue gets confused (intentionally) when filtered through the media, and each sides' slogans, but you guys are really intelligent >...

surely you can understand that the issue is cops remaining unaccountable for committing brutal crimes against the people they're supposed to protect and serve?

Shooting a mentally ill man coming after you with a knife is not the same thing as storming into someone's house in a no-knock raid and murdering them because you had a mistaken hunch they sold weed, or murdering a man by kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes while he screams for help.

You can understand THAT, right?

 

[tinselwolverine]

so you're showing a video of an obvious justified use of deadly force... why?

what does that have to do with George Floyd, Breanna Taylor, etc.?

Granted, the issue gets confused (intentionally) when filtered through the media, and each sides' slogans, but you guys are really intelligent >...

surely you can understand that the issue is cops remaining unaccountable for committing brutal crimes against the people they're supposed to protect and serve?

Shooting a mentally ill man coming after you with a knife is not the same thing as storming into someone's house in a no-knock raid and murdering them because you had a mistaken hunch they sold weed, or murdering a man by kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes while he screams for help.

You can understand THAT, right?

What I can tell ya?

The cops in the Floyd incident are all facing criminal charges; the Chauvin guy is facing murder charges per the state of Minnesota.

The people of the state of Kentucky came to the result they came to regarding Breonna Taylor.

Policing and law enforcement is, has been and I reckon always will be handled - like lot of other things- at the state and local level, for the most part.

Like everybody, I feel bad about the Breonna Taylor event-but it?s the business of the people of the commonwealth of Kentucky, and through their own process, they came to the conclusion they came to.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

Seems this.officer was woefully undertrained for field work. At the very least, simply retreat from the attacker. Or withdraw the nightstick and delver a blow to the bridge of the nose or to his wrist. Or get inside the arc of the weapon. Anything but screaming and remaining a stabbing dummy.

Do cops still have nightsticks?

Pretty sure they were phased out for tasers.

 

[byco42]

Do cops still have nightsticks?

Pretty sure they were phased out for tasers.

I think that some still do. I?d prefer the nightstick any day of the week, because I have 100% control of it.

 

[Michchamp]

When did cops stop clubbing people, and start wearing full combat gear and shooting them? or kneeling on their neck until they suffocate and die?

 

[tomdalton22]

When did cops stop clubbing people, and start wearing full combat gear and shooting them? or kneeling on their neck until they suffocate and die?

I think shortly after Rodney King

 

[Michchamp]

I think shortly after Rodney King

He survived at least.

I guess the cops sure taught US not to demand police reforms...

"Don't like us clubbing you? Fine we'll terrorize you before shooting you to death instead."

biggest and meanest street gang in the country, I tell you...

 

[tomdalton22]

He survived at least.

I guess the cops sure taught US not to demand police reforms...

"Don't like us clubbing you? Fine we'll terrorize you before shooting you to death instead."

biggest and meanest street gang in the country, I tell you...

28 years later he drown in his in-ground pool, drunk and high on cocaine and PCP. If it weren't for the huge settlement he probably would have never been able to afford that pool. Those cops ended up killing him 28 years later.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

so you're showing a video of an obvious justified use of deadly force... why?

what does that have to do with George Floyd, Breanna Taylor, etc.?

Granted, the issue gets confused (intentionally) when filtered through the media, and each sides' slogans, but you guys are really intelligent >...

surely you can understand that the issue is cops remaining unaccountable for committing brutal crimes against the people they're supposed to protect and serve?

Shooting a mentally ill man coming after you with a knife is not the same thing as storming into someone's house in a no-knock raid and murdering them because you had a mistaken hunch they sold weed, or murdering a man by kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes while he screams for help.

You can understand THAT, right?

You are right, the police brutally killed Breonna cause she was black.

And not an unintentional victim because the police were returning fire.


In the Breonna case, your real issue is actually with the laws/government for allowing such tactics and not actions of the police officers themselves.


Where did you get the misinformation that they raided her apartment because the police mistakenly through she was selling weed? Or did you just make it up on the spot again.

 

[Gulo Blue]

People aren't just mad because these things happen. People are mad because there doesn't seem to be any way to get an independent investigation that would help uncover what really goes wrong and how such things might be avoided in the future. Taxpayers pay money, the most newsworthy scapegoats might get fired, and for the most part that's it. I don't get why so many people bend over backwards to argue that this is all fine.

 

[Michchamp]

Let's talk about those "violent protestors" again...

?Boogaloo Bois? Staged Attack on Minneapolis Police Precinct During George Floyd Protests: Feds.

Federal charges of plotting to incite a riot and committing an act of violence to spark a riot have been brought against a Texas man claiming to be a member of the Boogaloo Bois, a militant extremist group, with prosecutors claiming the man opened fire on a Minneapolis police precinct as part of a plot to foment unrest amid protests in the wake of George Floyd?s death.

In a federal criminal complaint (pdf) released Friday, and as detailed in an attached affidavit, Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Boerne, Texas, traveled to Minnesota at the end of May to organize, participate in, and engage in a riot, and committed ?an act of violence in furtherance of a riot.?
​

I haven't heard of that news site before, but it's being reported in other places.


Minnesota Public Radio: Feds charge alleged 'Boogaloo Bois' member with rioting in Floyd protests

 

[Spartanmack]

Let's talk about those "violent protestors" again...

?Boogaloo Bois? Staged Attack on Minneapolis Police Precinct During George Floyd Protests: Feds.

Federal charges of plotting to incite a riot and committing an act of violence to spark a riot have been brought against a Texas man claiming to be a member of the Boogaloo Bois, a militant extremist group, with prosecutors claiming the man opened fire on a Minneapolis police precinct as part of a plot to foment unrest amid protests in the wake of George Floyd?s death.

In a federal criminal complaint (pdf) released Friday, and as detailed in an attached affidavit, Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Boerne, Texas, traveled to Minnesota at the end of May to organize, participate in, and engage in a riot, and committed ?an act of violence in furtherance of a riot.?
​

I haven't heard of that news site before, but it's being reported in other places.


Minnesota Public Radio: Feds charge alleged 'Boogaloo Bois' member with rioting in Floyd protests

and?

 

[Michchamp]

and?

okaaaay... so that was evidence that the violence the authorities are using to justify crackdowns on the protests is not being caused by the protestors themselves.

 

[Spartanmack]

okaaaay... so that was evidence that the violence the authorities are using to justify crackdowns on the protests is not being caused by the protestors themselves.

let me get this straight, a guy arrested for protesting violently (what would you call an anti-cop anarchist firing on a police station) is evidence the violence the authorities were using to justify crackdowns on violent protests wasn't being cause by the protestors themselves? okaaaay...

 

[Michchamp]

Do cops still have nightsticks?

Pretty sure they were phased out for tasers.

turns out they still have nightsticks in Philadelphia.