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Ferguson, MO

I know, right?

Just bring back the night stick.

Absofuckinglutely.

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My uncle said they don't need them because Mag-lites are just as effective and carry less liability.

I remember reading an article during the Rodney King trial about the batons or tonfa sticks the cops carried. They're designed to do real damage, like break bones to subdue violent arrestees. As I recall, the manufacturer would train cops on how to use them and insure them or defend them in court if they used them properly. Obviously, the guys pummeling King with hatchet blows weren't using them properly which voided that warranty.
 
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Someone who needs a heavy blunt weapon that he can carry around under the guise of needing it for vision.

my friend's dad who is a slumlord carries one because he lives on the Communist State of California and couldn't get a concealed carry permit. The cops told him he'd be better off both tactically and legally with the mag lite than if he was carrying knife and stabbed someone.
 
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Wrong.

Worth it for the scene where the police show the Jerky Boys the FBI sketch of what they think Frank Rizzo looks like. that part had me laughing my ass off.

the movie is short, 81 minutes according to imdb. What the hell else are you going to do with that time?
 
my friend's dad who is a slumlord carries one because he lives on the Communist State of California and couldn't get a concealed carry permit. The cops told him he'd be better off both tactically and legally with the mag lite than if he was carrying knife and stabbed someone.

If one of his tenants was late on their rent, he could show up pretending that he was going to fix some thing and then beat the crap out of them until they paid.
 
If one of his tenants was late on their rent, he could show up pretending that he was going to fix some thing and then beat the crap out of them until they paid.

He should probably just carry around a toolbox that has a big wrench and a mag lite. Plausible deniability. I was once told not to keep just a bat in your car because it can be considered a weapon by itself, it’s better to also have a mitt and some cleats, etc. I don’t recall who told me that, could just be complete b.s. but what’s the harm in tossing a glove in the the trunk just in case, not like it takes up a lot of trunk space.
 
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He should probably just carry around a toolbox that has a big wrench and a mag lite. Plausible deniability. I was once told not to keep just a bat in your car because it can be considered a weapon by itself, it?s better to also have a mitt and some cleats, etc. I don?t recall who told me that, could just be complete b.s. but what?s the harm in tossing a glove in the the trunk just in case, not like it takes up a lot of trunk space.

In the hands of a professional or former professional baseball player, a bat could be viewed as a deadly weapon, whether the guy had a glove and a ball with him or not.
 
If you beat someone with a baseball bat, you can be charged with and convicted of battery or aggravated battery, and depending on the severity, whatever other qualifications a state may have on the books (e.g. "with intent to do great bodily harm") regardless of whether or not you also had cleats and baseball glove in your trunk.

I guess those might help beat a pre-meditated element of a crime if you could also show you played on a team, it was baseball season, and you were on your way to or from practice.

probably best to use common sense to avoid conflict.

Has anyone here ever had to physically fight off an attacker while on the road? I've been driving for 24 years now, and it's never happened to me.
 
Has anyone here ever had to physically fight off an attacker while on the road? I've been driving for 24 years now, and it's never happened to me.

I haven't but there have been a few times that it could have been close if I weren't able to drive off. There are some really fucked up people out there.
 
I haven't but there have been a few times that it could have been close if I weren't able to drive off. There are some really fucked up people out there.

Let me rephrase that:

Has anyone who doesn't drive like shit ever had to physically fight off an attacker while on the road? I've been driving for 24 years now, and it's never happened to me.​
 
If you beat someone with a baseball bat, you can be charged with and convicted of battery or aggravated battery, and depending on the severity, whatever other qualifications a state may have on the books (e.g. "with intent to do great bodily harm") regardless of whether or not you also had cleats and baseball glove in your trunk.

I guess those might help beat a pre-meditated element of a crime if you could also show you played on a team, it was baseball season, and you were on your way to or from practice.

probably best to use common sense to avoid conflict.

Has anyone here ever had to physically fight off an attacker while on the road? I've been driving for 24 years now, and it's never happened to me.

Are you telling me that all that shit could happen to a person even if the person is NOT a former professional baseball player?

I thought it would be like the same as for a boxer.
 
I was once assaulted over a parking space. The guy tried to press charges against me after I beat him up but there were so many witnesses that said I tried to avoid the fight until I no longer could that the cops asked me if I wanted to press charges against him, which I declined.

I have seen a guy pull a golf club in an evening rush hour road rage incident on West End Ave in NYC while walking to my apartment. The guy he was raging on dumped out one of those mesh metal trash cans and used it as a shield and they went at it. When the golf club snapped in half (almost immediately), the guy retreated to his car but couldn't go anywhere bc of traffic and the dude threw the trash can at his windshield turning it into a giant spiderweb.

Then there was the time my brother saw two cabbies get out of their cars yelling at each other in the middle of Park Ave on a hot summer afternoon around 3pm (very busy pedestrian and car traffic time). Then the one with the heavy African accent went to his trunk and pulled out a 2' machete but the guy with the heavy middle eastern accent was completely unphased, stood his ground and kept screaming at the guy w/ the huge knife. Shit gets weird on really hot days in the City.
 
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I was once assaulted over a parking space. The guy tried to press charges against me after I beat him up but there were so many witnesses that said I tried to avoid the fight until I no longer could that the cops asked me if I wanted to press charges against him, which I declined.

I have seen a guy pull a golf club in an evening rush hour road rage incident on West End Ave in NYC while walking to my apartment. The guy he was raging on dumped out one of those mesh metal trash cans and used it as a shield and they went at it. When the golf club snapped in half (almost immediately), the guy retreated to his car but couldn't go anywhere bc of traffic and the dude threw the trash can at his windshield turning it into a giant spiderweb.

Then there was the time my brother saw two cabbies get out of their cars yelling at each other in the middle of Park Ave on a hot summer afternoon around 3pm (very busy pedestrian and car traffic time). Then the one with the heavy African accent went to his trunk and pulled out a 2' machete but the guy with the heavy middle eastern accent was completely unphased, stood his ground and kept screaming at the guy w/ the huge knife. Shit gets weird on really hot days in the City.

obviously, all of those people drive like shit

Let me rephrase that:

Has anyone who doesn't drive like shit ever had to physically fight off an attacker while on the road? I've been driving for 24 years now, and it's never happened to me.​
 
Then there was the time my brother saw two cabbies get out of their cars yelling at each other in the middle of Park Ave on a hot summer afternoon around 3pm (very busy pedestrian and car traffic time). Then the one with the heavy African accent went to his trunk and pulled out a 2' machete but the guy with the heavy middle eastern accent was completely unphased, stood his ground and kept screaming at the guy w/ the huge knife. Shit gets weird on really hot days in the City.

If I was Danny Glover I wouldn?t get into either of their cabs.

And why would Danny Glover be hailing a taxi on the street anyway?

Doesn?t he have people to call him a cab?

The whole sounds fishy to me...
 
obviously, all of those people drive like shit

the first incident was in a parking lot in suburban Detroit - not really a road rage thing. The others were in NYC - traffic there is insane with something like 3 pedestrian deaths a week and 3k accidents w/ injuries per month.
 
If I was Danny Glover I wouldn?t get into either of their cabs.

And why would Danny Glover be hailing a taxi on the street anyway?

Doesn?t he have people to call him a cab?

The whole sounds fishy to me...

it depends - this is New York, not LA. You can't call a cab in NYC, you have to hail them. If he was coming out of a doorman building or a hotel, someone might hail a cab for him but if he's just coming out of a bar, restaurant, store, etc he'd have to hail his own cab. Danny could or he could have someone call a car service for him.
 
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