diluting myself?
Welcome to Detroit Sports Forum!
By joining our community, you'll be able to connect with fellow fans that live and breathe Detroit sports just like you!
-
If you are no longer able to access your account since our recent switch from vBulletin to XenForo, you may need to reset your password via email. If you no longer have access to the email attached to your account, please fill out our contact form and we will assist you ASAP. Thanks for your continued support of DSF.
Football team Has Left Paris, France
- Thread starter Michchamp
- Start date
diluting myself?
Yep, a free trip where they will learn some things about the place they are visiting.
When I traveled to Paris. I learned a lot.
I, also, took a trip to Normandy while I was there. Awesome trip and educational experience. I read that the football team will be going to Normandy, as well.
Last edited:
Last edited:
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2011
- Messages
- 35,812
Now, they're going to approach Normandy Beach from the land side, right?
Because with Harbaugh...ya never really know.
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2011
- Messages
- 57,149
No offense but you're not a football player wanting to turn pro someday.
I know I'm on the small minority here but some football players just do not care. I'm sure some will take it all in and I'm not so certain Harbaugh cares about the learning aspect. Hell, many of these guys would never have been accepted into Michigan without football.. But that's a different point and makes no sense in this discussion so I regress..
rumseyhouse77
Senior Member
- Joined
- Aug 6, 2011
- Messages
- 13,747
Okay, so with the talk of student athletes deserving to be paid, if they were being paid would they be paid for going on these kinds of trips?
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2011
- Messages
- 57,149
Another topic if they went that way paying athletes.. Would they all get similar pay or based on stats? That could lead to many problems.
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2011
- Messages
- 35,812
My favorite part of the Louvre was seeing the top of the butt crack of the Venus de Milo.
Very educational.
Mona Lisa doesn't show very much; kinda disappointing.
They say her smile is something special; I don't really see it.
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2011
- Messages
- 35,812
Dude, you seem to have your panties in such a bunch over something that couldn't be less consequential.
The next time you're a head football coach at a university, or an athletic director at a university, and an anonymous donor offers to finance a trip for the football team to a European destination, just say, "thanks, but...no thanks...these guys aren't here to get an education or to learn anything - they're here because they're wanting to turn pro someday."
Lol
There are some pics on twitter from @chengelis and @nickbaumgardner
Example. https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/990559609533452289?s=21
. They went to beach, cemetery, had flags and place a block m of flowers at statue
Last edited:
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2011
- Messages
- 35,812
Did anybody remember to tell them that that's where D Day happened, and the Allied Forces gained the upper hand in the World War II?
Because if nobody did...they all probably should have just stayed home, and simply kept on thinking about wanting to turn pro some day.
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2011
- Messages
- 57,149
When did I say the word all? If I implied anything It was that some are mindless drones that have gotten carried though school. I'm certain some Michigan football players are there to learn.
And the original point that was posted was that the Athletic department was paying for this not an individual. I knew some athletes at my school who ditched and went to McDonald's.
TheVictors
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 26, 2011
- Messages
- 14,206
From how the trip to Italy has been depicted on the Amazon Prime documentary, I think these trips are going to make lifelong memories for the kids; some of whom had never been on a plane, let alone to another country. I am sure this year's trip will be the same for the players and coaches.
Of course some knob on Twitter tried to say Harbaugh taking the current team to Europe is a slap in the face of those involved in the Draft. You know, in case any NFL GMs or Owners needed to talk to Harbaugh and he was off in Europe running around with his current, enrolled roster of players.
Jesus some people will find a way to bitch about anything related to Harbaugh.
Of course some knob on Twitter tried to say Harbaugh taking the current team to Europe is a slap in the face of those involved in the Draft. You know, in case any NFL GMs or Owners needed to talk to Harbaugh and he was off in Europe running around with his current, enrolled roster of players.
Jesus some people will find a way to bitch about anything related to Harbaugh.
- Thread Author
- #58
Michchamp
Well-known member
- Joined
- Aug 4, 2011
- Messages
- 34,251
I'm sure they already do in a lot of places, just not openly.
- Thread Author
- #59
Michchamp
Well-known member
- Joined
- Aug 4, 2011
- Messages
- 34,251
I question the idea that a scholarship is "enough" compensation.
the standard shouldn't be "Oh shit, $40,000 would've been a lot of money to me, back when I was 18 in 1976"
Instead, I think we should consider this:"the NCAA is a fabulously wealthy monopoly... a huge pie. and with every TV contract, it keeps getting bigger. How can we divide up the pie to ensure everyone's - players, coaches, and schools - incentives align, and produce entertaining and competitive sports, without letting scumbag coaches, ADs, real estate developers and other hangers-on profit from it?"
for one thing, not every NCAA athlete, even on football and basketball teams, gets a scholarship, or a full scholarship. and there's been plenty of commentary about how even full rides don't address the full costs of attendance. And they don't take into account the obvious tension between "maintaining eligibility"
and majoring in whatever you want." what's the price of that?
the people opposing players getting compensation seem to be more likely to misstate the facts and jump to conclusions here. there are ways to do it that don't involve negotiating contracts with players like in the NFL.
the standard shouldn't be "Oh shit, $40,000 would've been a lot of money to me, back when I was 18 in 1976"
Instead, I think we should consider this:"the NCAA is a fabulously wealthy monopoly... a huge pie. and with every TV contract, it keeps getting bigger. How can we divide up the pie to ensure everyone's - players, coaches, and schools - incentives align, and produce entertaining and competitive sports, without letting scumbag coaches, ADs, real estate developers and other hangers-on profit from it?"
for one thing, not every NCAA athlete, even on football and basketball teams, gets a scholarship, or a full scholarship. and there's been plenty of commentary about how even full rides don't address the full costs of attendance. And they don't take into account the obvious tension between "maintaining eligibility"
and majoring in whatever you want." what's the price of that?
the people opposing players getting compensation seem to be more likely to misstate the facts and jump to conclusions here. there are ways to do it that don't involve negotiating contracts with players like in the NFL.
Gulo Blue
Well-known member
- Joined
- Oct 4, 2013
- Messages
- 13,502
I've said it before, but I would be far more ok with the idea that a scholarship is fair compensation if the players actually got what a full ride really means. If you're pushed to practice as much as humanly possible and discouraged from taking more classes than required or the degree you really want to go after, you're not really getting the college experience. That's why I think scholarships should extend beyond the playing years to cover a couple or even a few years of exclusively being a student.
Affiliates
