Game 10: Raiders @ Lions Thread

[motown1958]

They are barely moving the ball. The defense is looking pretty good.

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[mhughes0021]

weve just wasted a minute and a half and have done nothing.....this is why we are losers. No urgency.

 

[mhughes0021]

that was a hell of a throw lol....great job staff.

 

[inkfreq]

that was a hell of a throw lol....great job staff.

You gotta admit, when they hook up like that.. it's so damned pretty.

 

[mhughes0021]

Stafford blows....

 

[mhughes0021]

way to get yourself back out of FG range you moron.....

 

[mhughes0021]

he should be frustrated....he just airmailed a ball 12 yards past his WR after he fucked us out of good FG range.

 

[JScottWriter]

Terrible set of plays to end the half.

 

[mhughes0021]

nice job prater.

 

[inkfreq]

Icing the kicker is complete bullshit.

I get that once in a great while you call the timeout and then the kicker misses... but how often really? Did it have anything to do with the timeout, or was it just a miss?

I have no idea where the notion started, but it's stupid either way.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It's like the J. Hanson era, our K is the best player.

 

[motown1958]

Stafford is playing pretty well but needed to be smarter on the intentional grounding play. Made that a much more stressful drive and took the td completely off the table.

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[manchild98]

Icing the kicker is complete bullshit.

I get that once in a great while you call the timeout and then the kicker misses... but how often really? Did it have anything to do with the timeout, or was it just a miss?

I have no idea where the notion started, but it's stupid either way.

And why is the time out only like 15 seconds when you ice the kicker? Is that the rule? Cause all other time outs last a lot longer or involve a commercial break? Seems pointless to ice him if its that short a time period.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Gamecast is brutal.. Never again.

 

[cmlfactor]

Icing the kicker is a 50/50 play. I've seen it screw teams as often as it helps. I can only see it being helpful with a struggling kicker. You can play mind games with that guy more easily than anyone else.

 

[inkfreq]

And why is the time out only like 15 seconds when you ice the kicker? Is that the rule? Cause all other time outs last a lot longer or involve a commercial break? Seems pointless to ice him if its that short a time period.

If it's a shorter timeout, I guess I just never noticed.

It's pointless either way, but with seconds left in the half, it can't hurt either. Unless of course it's a sideline timeout right before the kick, and it misses and gives them another chance.. then it can hurt.

I think it was Grantland that did an article last year about how pointless it is and did the math on it. It never works.

 

[inkfreq]

In fact, here's the article, and I agree with it all the way.

http://grantland.com/features/icing-kicker-work/

 

[manchild98]

Icing the kicker is a 50/50 play. I've seen it screw teams as often as it helps. I can only see it being helpful with a struggling kicker. You can play mind games with that guy more easily than anyone else.

The key is to never ever give him the practice kick. Make sure you ice him as soon as he starts to try and line up his steps. Never let them snap it and kick it. That's just stupid.

 

[inkfreq]

The key is to never ever give him the practice kick. Make sure you ice him as soon as he starts to try and line up his steps. Never let them snap it and kick it. That's just stupid.

If you go off raw numbers like that Grantland article, you never ice them anyway. In most cases, it improves their accuracy.

 

[motown1958]

Icing a pro doesn't work. In college it works occasionally but a lot of those guys were not a guarantee anyways.

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