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Game 9: Browns @ Lions Thread

grandy

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Cleveland Browns (0-8) @ Detroit Lions (4-4)

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Injury Report
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Lions
G T.J. Lang (concussion) - OUT
LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin (ankle) - OUT
DE Ezekiel Ansah (back) - Doubtful
S Don Carey (knee) - Questionable
WR Kenny Golladay (hamstring) - Questionable

Browns
DL Larry Ogunjobi (groin) - Questionable


Series History
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The Lions are 15-4 against the Browns
Last Game: 10/13/2013, Lions 31 Browns 17
Last Loss: 9/23/2001, Browns 24 Lions 14
Last Loss in Detroit: 9/11/1983, Browns 31 Lions 26
Recent Games: The Lions have won 6 of the last 7 meetings
 
Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Detroit 10.2% (11th)
Cleveland -33.4% (32nd)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Detroit 9.4% (12th)
Cleveland -32.9% (32nd)

Offense DVOA
Detroit -4.7% (20th)
Cleveland -27.4% (32nd)

Defense DVOA
Detroit -7.6% (11th)
Cleveland 0.1% (18th)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 7.3% (2nd)
Cleveland -5.9% (27th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Detroit -5.2% (20th)
Cleveland -28.0% (32nd)

Pass Offense
Detroit 15.3% (17th)
Cleveland -38.6% (32nd)

Rush Offense
Cleveland -0.8% (10th)
Detroit -31.5% (32nd)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Detroit -7.0% (13th)
Cleveland -0.3% (18th)

Pass Defense
Detroit -0.9% (12th)
Cleveland 28.4% (28th)

Rush Defense
Cleveland -33.1% (1st)
Detroit -16.2% (10th)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Cleveland 4.06 (13th)
Detroit 2.88 (32nd)

Power Success
Cleveland 75% (5th)
Detroit 33% (32nd)

Stuffed
Cleveland 14% (2nd)
Detroit 31% (32nd)

2nd Level Yards
Cleveland 1.11 (14th)
Detroit 0.87 (31st)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.57 (17th)
Cleveland 0.49 (24th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Cleveland 7.1% (17th)
Detroit 7.8% (22nd)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Cleveland 2.92 (2nd)
Detroit 4.28 (22nd)

Power Success
Cleveland 57% (10th)
Detroit 63% (19th)

Stuffed
Cleveland 31% (2nd)
Detroit 16% (30th)

2nd Level Yards
Cleveland 0.93 (6th)
Detroit 1.09 (17th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.46 (6th)
Cleveland 0.49 (8th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 6.4% (17th)
Cleveland 5.8% (23rd)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Detroit 0.30 (15th)
Cleveland -1.61 (19th)

Net Points/Drive
Detroit 0.19 (11th)
Cleveland -0.76 (30th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Detroit 0.004 (16th)
Cleveland -0.021 (21st)

Offense Yards/Drive
Detroit 29.38 (18th)
Cleveland 25.63 (27th)

Offense Points/Drive
Detroit 1.88 (15th)
Cleveland 1.18 (32nd)

Offense DSR
Detroit 0.671 (19th)
Cleveland 0.653 (22nd)

Defense Yards/Drive
Cleveland 27.24 (9th)
Detroit 29.09 (16th)

Defense Points/Drive
Detroit 1.69 (12th)
Cleveland 1.94 (20th)

Defense DSR
Detroit 0.667 (12th)
Cleveland 0.674 (15th)
 
I have a bad feeling about this one. Hopefully the Matthew Stafford that showed up in GB got on the plane back to Detroit. We might have to air it out 60 times.

Lions is a dog fight.....23-20
 
Cle D can play tough. But any extended drives on O they get are typically from their run game... which we've been pretty good at run D. We should be able to outscore their offense. Don't make the stupid mistakes to keep them in it.
 
So we have Barclay or Cleary starting at rg.... and pretty much whoever doesn't start is our only depth on the oline. Fucking scary lol.
 
I'm going to be pissed if it's not a blowout like it should be. The Browns are just so bad this should and won't be close.
 
grandy said:
I'd only be worried about this game if Jim Bob Caldwell tries to establish the run.

Also, playing the Browns brings up memories of a rookie Stafford for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugA8G4rv_8g

I'll never forget that ending, it gave us hope that we might have a good QB for the future.
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The Browns can actually stop the run. Their secondary is weak though. Contain Garrett and we win by 10+ with ease.
And they have no QB......

27-13 Lions
 
I know the Browns have to win eventually but this should be a blowout in huge proportions.
 
This matchup has almost all of the markings of being a "trap" game, but only if the Browns had a better offense. Lions RZ offense is still lacking, especially on the ground.

Rodney Dangerfield vs Dom DeLouise.
 
The Browns have been pretty good vs. the run but not the pass. Stafford should have 3-4 TD passes. The Browns offense is terrible. They have a shitty QB and no WRs. This should be a blowout.

Lions get 3 TDs from Stafford, 3 FGs from D.A. and win 32-10
 
I have no bad feelings about this game, not sure if that's good or bad..

Lions blow em out.

38-13
 
A lot about this game says blowout......but that is NOT Caldwell's MO. If we get up 2 TD's or god forbid 3 scores.......we'll go full on conservative mode.....even if it were only the 2nd quarter.

It will be run run run punt, play prevent defense, run run run punt, prevent defense…

We'll take Stafford completely out of his rhythm and expect him to bail us out on every 3rd at 11.

We HAVE been more aggressive the last 2 weeks and I hope we keep it up but I don't see us stomping on anyone's throat.
 
boogerlovejoy said:
A lot about this game says blowout......but that is NOT Caldwell's MO. If we get up 2 TD's or god forbid 3 scores.......we'll go full on conservative mode.....even if it were only the 2nd quarter.

It will be run run run punt, play prevent defense, run run run punt, prevent defense?

We'll take Stafford completely out of his rhythm and expect him to bail us out on every 3rd at 11.

We HAVE been more aggressive the last 2 weeks and I hope we keep it up but I don't see us stomping on anyone's throat.
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I do agree with you that it will be Caldwell's fault we do not blow this team out.
 
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