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[gotime909]

Now jace and tre miss layups. Just hasn't been our day

 

[gotime909]

Sucks we got the stop and then Akins gets a dumb foul. Just not our day

 

[gotime909]

I can't believe we still have a chance to win this game

 

[gotime909]

Holloman and fears both woth horrible shots to tie

 

[gotime909]

Crazy that we had 2 chances to tie and Jace didn't touch the ball. Terrible decisions by fears on the last one and izzo drew up a horrible play on the first. Didn't deserve to win that

 

[Spartanmack]

So according to the net ranking we are a 3 seed. Maryland still ahead of us and according to the NCAA site the only stats they lead us in are WAB and quad 4 wins. We won all our quad 4 games but only played half as many as MD.

Alabama’s stats don’t look as good either.

There’s something wrong with the Net rankings.

 

[gotime909]

So according to the net ranking we are a 3 seed. Maryland still ahead of us and according to the NCAA site the only stats they lead us in are WAB and quad 4 wins. We won all our quad 4 games but only played half as many as MD.

Alabama’s stats don’t look as good either.

There’s something wrong with the Net rankings.

They give points for blow out wins. So teams like Gonzaga get bonus points for beating up on quad 4 teams. It's extremely flawed.

 

[gotime909]

Id expect they do the right thing amd still make us a 2. Winning a major league by 3 games has to be rewarded. That being said, im sure they will do anything they can to match us up with Omaha(Fidler’s) former team and then try for a vandy match up for a hoggard reunion. Usually when a team gets a surprising seeding its to force a match up.

Also, I could see them trying for a 2md round msu/Oklahoma match up. Fears v fears

 

[gotime909]

I could see 7 seed Kansas vs 10 seed vandy or Oklahoma as our 2nd

 

[Spartanmack]

If we get theb2 it will likely be the lowest 2 in dook’s region. They love doing that too.

 

[gotime909]

2 seed with Auburn as the 1. Don't hate the draw at all.

 

[Spartanmack]

uofm beats Wisconsin twice including BTT final, has a better record and finished higher in B1G standings, gets a 5 and wisco gets the 3. So weird.

 

[gotime909]

uofm beats Wisconsin twice including BTT final, has a better record and finished higher in B1G standings, gets a 5 and wisco gets the 3. So weird.

They really don't care what happens in that conference tourney. They'll never admit it, but I'm certain the draw is 99% finished before the weekend. They might have to adjust a couple teams they didn't expect to make it. UM didn't finish the regular season well and that's a big one. 9-6 last 15 games, all 9 wins were by 4 or less pts and they got hammered in 4 of the 6 losses. Especially bad in the last 6 going 2-4 with 3 of those losses at home. I even thought they'd get a 3 or 4, but once I saw all that I understood. Wisconsin at 3 is kinda high, but I really don't see much gap in all the 3-6 seeds this year.

 

[Spartanmack]

They really don't care what happens in that conference tourney. They'll never admit it, but I'm certain the draw is 99% finished before the weekend. They might have to adjust a couple teams they didn't expect to make it. UM didn't finish the regular season well and that's a big one. 9-6 last 15 games, all 9 wins were by 4 or less pts and they got hammered in 4 of the 6 losses. Especially bad in the last 6 going 2-4 with 3 of those losses at home. I even thought they'd get a 3 or 4, but once I saw all that I understood. Wisconsin at 3 is kinda high, but I really don't see much gap in all the 3-6 seeds this year.

I hear you but I’m not trying to make the case that uofm should be a 3 and wisco should be a 5. It just seems odd that they are 5-8 spots lower than a team they beat twice and finished ahead of in the conference standings. Even if you ignore the BTT, it seems weird. it’s not like wisco finished strong, they went 2-3 in their last 5 games and played themselves out of a possible tie for 2nd by losing to psu at home, finishing 4th.

 

[byco42]

I hear you but I’m not trying to make the case that uofm should be a 3 and wisco should be a 5. It just seems odd that they are 5-8 spots lower than a team they beat twice and finished ahead of in the conference standings. Even if you ignore the BTT, it seems weird. it’s not like wisco finished strong, they went 2-3 in their last 5 games and played themselves out of a possible tie for 2nd by losing to psu at home, finishing 4th.

5-12 is a much more in-flux matchup than 3-14: Source - NCAA. 1985-2024. Maybe Wisconsin had a tougher schedule?

1 vs. 16	154-2	.987
2 vs. 15	145-11	.929
3 vs. 14	133-23	.853
4 vs. 13	123-33	.788
5 vs. 12	101-55	.647
6 vs. 11	95-61	.609
7 vs. 10*	95-60	.613
8 vs. 9	75-81	.481

 

[Spartanmack]

5-12 is a much more in-flux matchup than 3-14: Source - NCAA. 1985-2024. Maybe Wisconsin had a tougher schedule?

1 vs. 16	154-2	.987
2 vs. 15	145-11	.929
3 vs. 14	133-23	.853
4 vs. 13	123-33	.788
5 vs. 12	101-55	.647
6 vs. 11	95-61	.609
7 vs. 10*	95-60	.613
8 vs. 9	75-81	.481

It seems to me the selection process is a lot more art than science. And it's the equivalent of modern art which is mostly garbage that only pretentious "elites" who like to huff their own flatulence can appreciate and pretend to understand and justify its existence.

Both teams probably should have gotten 4 seeds - maybe they realized that and decided to make one a 3 and the other a 5 so they averaged 4 and wisco just happened to win the coin toss.

 

[Spartanmack]

They really don't care what happens in that conference tourney. They'll never admit it, but I'm certain the draw is 99% finished before the weekend. They might have to adjust a couple teams they didn't expect to make it. UM didn't finish the regular season well and that's a big one. 9-6 last 15 games, all 9 wins were by 4 or less pts and they got hammered in 4 of the 6 losses. Especially bad in the last 6 going 2-4 with 3 of those losses at home. I even thought they'd get a 3 or 4, but once I saw all that I understood. Wisconsin at 3 is kinda high, but I really don't see much gap in all the 3-6 seeds this year.

You're also probably right about the 3-6 spread being tight, but the spread that counts for those teams is the difference between a 14 and an 11 (12 seeds in uofm's case), not a 3 and a 6. Per the table Byco posted, 14s win about 15% of the time while 12 win almost 36% of their games. That's a big advantage.

As you pointed out, uofm doesn't have a real case to be a 3 after they went from being in the driver's seat to lucky to tie for second. Tough to argue against that, but there's a decent case they could be a 4 (esp if wisco is really a 3) and I'm sure they'd take the extra 15% likelihood of a 1st round win.

At this point, all I care about is a deep run for the Spartans and for the B1G to outperform the rest of the power 4 conferences.