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If things go really wrong this year...

The top 5 defense isn't terribly far fetched, but he's putting an awful lot of faith in Joe Lombardi's 'system'. It will take more than Stafford stepping for those numbers to happen. I also don't see it but would be ecstatic if the offense came remotely close to those stats.

Top 5 PPG is not far fetched for the offense that is loaded with talent.
Stafford is good and has led a top 5 offense before and played well enough in 2013 and 2014 for a top 5 offense. Calvin and Tate are elite and healthy
We upgraded protection (with draft and health) and run game big time this offseason
Year 2 of the system, plus Lombardi can learn from mistakes
Moore can be solid
Ebron is talented and in year 2.

Everything points to top 5.
 
The top 5 defense isn't terribly far fetched, but he's putting an awful lot of faith in Joe Lombardi's 'system'. It will take more than Stafford stepping for those numbers to happen. I also don't see it but would be ecstatic if the offense came remotely close to those stats.

The defense could be top 5 but it is a better bet that they are outside of the top 5. They were #1 vs the rush last year at 69.3 yards per game & #13 in passing yards per game. I just feel Suh is that kind of difference maker that both numbers will drop off.
 
The defense could be top 5 but it is a better bet that they are outside of the top 5. They were #1 vs the rush last year at 69.3 yards per game & #13 in passing yards per game. I just feel Suh is that kind of difference maker that both numbers will drop off.

I don't disagree at all. If I had to put money on it, I'd say outside top 5.
 
Lions versus new england in the super bowl!!!! It's time for little matty to get the job done!!
 
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Suh gone
But MLB, nickel and SAM upgrades
year 2 in system for DEs, OLBs and secondary
And Ngata is an elite player and Walker is a good player

Top 5 defense

Levy needs to get healthy though
 
It is Matthew's time to shine.... Time to grow up and compete with the big boys
 
It is Matthew's time to shine.... Time to grow up and compete with the big boys

Stafford has been shining.

Time to get the Calvin health, 3rd WR/TE, run game and protection support he deserves.
 
I wonder how many times a team has gone from bottom third in the league in pts scored to top 5. Not many I bet.

Lions were 22 last year in p/g. If we had a kicker for the first half the year, we'd be middle of the pack then probably. I am really hoping that the numbers Stafford put up in the preseason(his best since 2011), are telling of his mastery of the system now(as well as the added O-line help), and not just preseason defenses. Stafford looked good in the Pro Bowl too, with an actual line in front of him. Same issue with the defense in that "game" though too.

Like I said in the prediction thread, I think they can be a top 10 offense, if everything comes together for them.
 
Stafford has been shining.

Time to get the Calvin health, 3rd WR/TE, run game and protection support he deserves.

Then where are the wins? Not going to argue with you but wins and loss are all that matter and alas Matty has more losses then wins Period. There is no such thing as a true win or a true loss. WIN THE DAMN GAMES.... Time to deliver..
 
FF write up about Stafford.

"2015 Outlook: Stafford's strengths are obvious: rocket arm, good in-pocket mobility and Megatron. But he's the reigning monarch of ill-advised throws, reflected by a league-high eight red zone picks over the past three years. We're always going to think Stafford should produce better numbers than he does. After all, not everyone can throw for 4,200-plus yards without surpassing 22 TDs. It's happened only five times in NFL history, and Stafford has done it twice in the past three seasons. Having a healthy Calvin Johnson for 16 games would help, and Golden Tate is finally filling the No. 2 WR hole in Detroit. But somehow, some way, Stafford will break your heart."
 
Then where are the wins? Not going to argue with you but wins and loss are all that matter and alas Matty has more losses then wins Period. There is no such thing as a true win or a true loss. WIN THE DAMN GAMES.... Time to deliver..

You have to remember who you are talking too. He believes the QB is the least important player on the field, they contribute to the win loss record less than anyone. The most important players based on contributing to a win in his mind are:

1 - #3 TE
2 - Kick/Punt Returner
3 - Punter
4 - #3 WR
5 - Special Teams coach
6 - Left Guard
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27 - QB
 
You have to remember who you are talking too. He believes the QB is the least important player on the field, they contribute to the win loss record less than anyone. The most important players based on contributing to a win in his mind are:

1 - #3 TE
2 - Kick/Punt Returner
3 - Punter
4 - #3 WR
5 - Special Teams coach
6 - Left Guard
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27 - QB

No. Just no. Stop putting words in my mouth

QB is most important. And Stafford does his job well. But other players can obviously derail QB stats.

We won 11 with Stafford playing well and defense. Imagine if Stafford got proper support. You'll see that in 2015.
 
You have to remember who you are talking too. He believes the QB is the least important player on the field, they contribute to the win loss record less than anyone. The most important players based on contributing to a win in his mind are:

1 - #3 TE
2 - Kick/Punt Returner
3 - Punter
4 - #3 WR
5 - Special Teams coach
6 - Left Guard
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27 - QB

Wait is this Mayhew's list?
 
You put up a lot of post, so it looks nice, but when you dig deeper and study the forum history you see the failure. You are very inefficient with your posting, perhaps the most inefficient poster on the entire board. In crunch time your post just don't come through and make a difference. A lot of your post are widely inaccurate....wait a minute.

Here we go! Answer's right there! Just gotta get some blood to the brain! LKP and Stafford! LKP and Stafford! LKP and Stafford! LKP and Stafford! LKP and Stafford. Stafford and LKP. Oh, my god! That's it! Stafford is LKP! LKP is Stafford!

2015 is broyles year.
 
Man was I naive I don't know when the first win will happen
 
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11-5 and a top 5 defense in 2014. I called 2014. And I'll call 2015. I have never failed.

12-4 with a top 5 offense and top 5 defense. Stafford 100 QB rating.

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