I'm not usually one to complain about refs, but

[greenandwhite95]

What I hate is when the video guys won't make a call - they'll say "inconclusive evidence" or whatever. That rule makes sense when there isn't a good camera shot, the video got blocked or you simply just couldn't see the ball or play from the video angle. In this case, I have a problem with it because they could clearly see the entire play, from both sides, and the ball the entire way through. Yet instead of overturning the call they left a controversial decision untouched. Yet that's exactly what replay is for. There's no way the refs could have possibly seen that play well enough to make an accurate decision.

They make mistakes. Remember RR's first year against MSU when Threat threw that TD where the players leg hit the pile on and the ball came no where near crossing the goal but a TD was given and the replay AGREED. I remember the analyst couldn't believe it. The following Monday the the B10 agreed that the call was wrong.

It happens, and unfortunately here, it was a game changer. Usually, they make the right call. Think of the game changing mistakes made if there was no replay.

 

[greenandwhite95]

What does it hurt if they call it complete? Michigan still has to get the 2 pt conversion and play OT. To me, sometimes the idea should be to not let the call determine the outcome of the game. In this case it did. If they would've called it a td, that call wouldn't have determined the game.

Same with the MSU game. Call it down at the 1 and play OT. That way a ref is not deciding the outcome of the game. If it can be avoided, it should be.

I see what you're saying but if you go with that logic then the PI on the last play of the game shouldn't have been called, which it wasn't. Or are you just talking about something more specific like a TD call ?

The PI in the endzone was about as obvious as they come and I was very surprised it wasn't called. But, if you think about other sports, such as Basketball. They hardly ever make a call at the end of the game ( Unless it's Duke ) even during a free for all malay under the basket.

 

[jever4321]

What does it hurt if they call it complete? Michigan still has to get the 2 pt conversion and play OT. To me, sometimes the idea should be to not let the call determine the outcome of the game. In this case it did. If they would've called it a td, that call wouldn't have determined the game.

Same with the MSU game. Call it down at the 1 and play OT. That way a ref is not deciding the outcome of the game. If it can be avoided, it should be.

I see what you're saying but if you go with that logic then the PI on the last play of the game shouldn't have been called, which it wasn't. Or are you just talking about something more specific like a TD call ?

The PI in the endzone was about as obvious as they come and I was very surprised it wasn't called. But, if you think about other sports, such as Basketball. They hardly ever make a call at the end of the game ( Unless it's Duke ) even during a free for all malay under the basket.

The refs called it in the national championship game in 2002, pass interferance against Miami on 4th down with seconds left on the clock for Ohio*. Miami fans are still crying about it. Flag came out super late if I remember correctly. A foul is a foul, whether its in the first minute or 59:59 in the game. I've seen untimed downs happen.

 

[Michchamp]

malay is actually spelled melee.

Normally, I wouldn't go there, but people may get confused, since Malay is a region on planet Earth, and melee is a violent man-to-man struggle.

 

[byco42]

The Michigan football team is still chafing from that ass-reaming the refs administered. It's maddening that they simply have to bend over and take it.

 

[greenandwhite95]

malay is actually spelled melee.

Normally, I wouldn't go there, but people may get confused, since Malay is a region on planet Earth, and melee is a violent man-to-man struggle.

Yeah because it really sounded like I was talking about a world region in my response. When do YOU not go there ? LOL

 

[greenandwhite95]

I see what you're saying but if you go with that logic then the PI on the last play of the game shouldn't have been called, which it wasn't. Or are you just talking about something more specific like a TD call ?

The PI in the endzone was about as obvious as they come and I was very surprised it wasn't called. But, if you think about other sports, such as Basketball. They hardly ever make a call at the end of the game ( Unless it's Duke ) even during a free for all malay under the basket.

The refs called it in the national championship game in 2002, pass interferance against Miami on 4th down with seconds left on the clock for Ohio*. Miami fans are still crying about it. Flag came out super late if I remember correctly. A foul is a foul, whether its in the first minute or 59:59 in the game. I've seen untimed downs happen.

I'm not against it. I'm all for calling a penalty when there is one. They just don't seem to call them like they should at the end.

 

[hungry]

What does it hurt if they call it complete? Michigan still has to get the 2 pt conversion and play OT. To me, sometimes the idea should be to not let the call determine the outcome of the game. In this case it did. If they would've called it a td, that call wouldn't have determined the game.

Same with the MSU game. Call it down at the 1 and play OT. That way a ref is not deciding the outcome of the game. If it can be avoided, it should be.

I see what you're saying but if you go with that logic then the PI on the last play of the game shouldn't have been called, which it wasn't. Or are you just talking about something more specific like a TD call ?

The PI in the endzone was about as obvious as they come and I was very surprised it wasn't called. But, if you think about other sports, such as Basketball. They hardly ever make a call at the end of the game ( Unless it's Duke ) even during a free for all malay under the basket.

What are you talking about? If they call PI, then the PI isn't determining the game. You don't get an automatic win by getting PI called in the endzone. They would still have to run a play and score a td, get the 2 pt conversion, and play into OT. The flag wouldn't have determined the game. Instead, the non-call did determine the end of the game. If you don't get it, just don't respond.