LeShoure Busted For Weed

[erg57]

Bah...just legalize the shit already.

much ado about nothing. I'd worry more about alcohol consumption in terms of his health/recovery than weed. It'll be decriminalized if not legalized in our lifetime. They'll be laughing at these comments like we laugh at "Reefer Madness"

 

[mhughes0021]

suspend him 4 games....see if i care. Hes going to be worthless until atleast week 8 anyways.

 

[zyxt9]

Despite the latest movements to try and legalize pot, there are many hurdles yet to be overcome including, but not limited to, driving while high limits similar to drunk driving. There are no tests accurate enough to detect levels in relation to how much time has passed since smoking. This is a huge hurdle as, despite what some claim, driving while high reduces reaction times and has therfore caused accidents, including deaths. So until this one of many issues is resolved, don't be banking on legalization anytime soon. This is already a huge problem in states with legalized medicinal use.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

They were in a rental, so perhaps the potpourri was being smoked to mask the very potent "skunky" pot stink, which isn't anything like your father's maryjane was in the 60s-70s, most of it being either very seedy and stemmy mexican or at best, thai-stick or columbian. Lots of very decent imported middle-eastern hashish was available back then, though...ala the actor Brad Davis' being busted in Turkey while boarding a jet plane in the (modeled IRL true-story) movie Midnight Express.

It wouldn't mask it at all :lmao:. It would just smell like weed and k2. I used to smoke quite often but am trying to save some money and can't really afford $50 1/8ths. I'd rather just get wasted. I used to get Train Wreck and Sour diesel regularly so I'm quite familiar with the essence.

 

[turok]

. This is a huge hurdle as, despite what some claim, driving while high reduces reaction times and has therfore caused accidents, including deaths. So until this one of many issues is resolved, don't be banking on legalization anytime soon. This is already a huge problem in states with legalized medicinal use.

While I favor legalization for...ahem... "medicinal" use, I don't really buy the accident theory with drastically reduced reaction times, since many if not most of the elderly drive relatively safely with significantly reduced reaction times due to advanced age, or until they physically/mentally cannot do so anymore. Where is your peer-reviewed authoritative links for proof of that?

As a young(er) adult I used to look forward to driving with the intention of smoking a joint or MAYBE even two, while on long 5+ hour drives "Up North" in MI on vacation trips. But I never drank any alcohol on those trips, not even a can of beer beforehand. Funny how I rarely wanted to smoke a joint on many of my return trips back home though, wonder why..lol.

Although I no longer partake in "chronic" pot smoking out of personal choice, I do know that smoking pot brings one to a certain level where it is not really possible to get truly and significantly "higher" (and is a waste of one's "supply" once achieving the desired buzz-level, IMO.) as there is when compared to "hard" drugs, such as heroin, meth, crack, as well as legal Rx drugs (also taken illegally) and more drinking can definitely make the drunk, MUCH drunker, to the point of falling down and/or passing out.

 

[sggatecl]

I bet there is a bunch of you that do weed or use to do weed yet if you had an NFL contract would still do weed.

I'd probably be more into Vicodin to be honest.

 

[zyxt9]

Turok, my comments were based on an article I read the other day that was actually in support of a woman who was busted for driving while high even tho she has legal medicinal right to smoke. It is a big legal issue in Oregon and Colorado right now apparently. Wasn't any kind of peer review study nor was I trying to be anti-legalization. I'll never touch it but know many who do, I just cannot hang around them when they smoke as it has a strongly negative impact on me personally. Everyone's body handles things in their own way, so to each their own as long as they are not causing problems for others, IMO.

 

[turok]

Turok, my comments were based on an article I read the other day that was actually in support of a woman who was busted for driving while high even tho she has legal medicinal right to smoke. It is a big legal issue in Oregon and Colorado right now apparently. Wasn't any kind of peer review study nor was I trying to be anti-legalization. I'll never touch it but know many who do, I just cannot hang around them when they smoke as it has a strongly negative impact on me personally. Everyone's body handles things in their own way, so to each their own as long as they are not causing problems for others, IMO.

Yeah, I have known many ~my age, who avoided the temptation, or just disliked the druggy atmosphere of pot smoke/smokers, but my reason for cutting down and often ceasing entirely, sometimes for as long as a few years, beginning a couple of decades ago, was that I began to feel that I was just trying to recapture something that I can never truly regain, being my youthful health and pleasures, (I am disabled) along with more and more often having a sense of feeling deeply melancholy after the buzz wore off. I have never entirely quit though, and will still smoke pot once in awhile IF it somehow becomes available or is offered to me, (I don't actively try to obtain it anymore), then will regret it later.

 

[MalFunkShun]

Despite the latest movements to try and legalize pot, there are many hurdles yet to be overcome including, but not limited to, driving while high limits similar to drunk driving. There are no tests accurate enough to detect levels in relation to how much time has passed since smoking. This is a huge hurdle as, despite what some claim, driving while high reduces reaction times and has therfore caused accidents, including deaths. So until this one of many issues is resolved, don't be banking on legalization anytime soon. This is already a huge problem in states with legalized medicinal use.

Ok, I'll bite.

Ever watch the news lately? I do, and I hear about 2-3 people killed from drunk driving a day. I can't recall a time hearing "The driver was high on marijuana during the accident."

I've driven with potheads before, letting them drive. Some of the most cautious motherfucker's on the road. NEVER will I drive with someone who has been drinking though (to a degree, not like I'll care if someone has two beers). Which brings me to another point. Doesn't alcohol also impair reaction times? Isn't that legal? I'll be gosh darned.

And I've never smoked pot a day in my life. I'm all for the legalization of it. We'd be out of debt in a year (I'm kidding). It would also free up jail/prison space because people are idiots and keep getting caught smoking pot.

 

[zyxt9]

I don't disagree with the evidence that drunk driving is worse, I'm just relaying the info that was mentioned in the article. The problem is that testing for THC in the blood is not like alcohol due to the fact THC remains in the system far longer, well past the time the high wears off, and this presents a problem for law enforcement to correctly assess and test whether or not someone is impaired due to pot in same way they can with alcohol.

My guess is once someone figures out an accurate testing method, the legalization won't be far behind. They just want to be accurate though, as right now cops are citing and / or arresting people who have legal right to smoke but the current tests register high THC levels even though it has been like 4 hours since the person tookk a hit. The THC is what is helping the patients cope, and since it stays in the blood longer they can do normal activities hours after their last hit without impairment.

So the problem officers and judges have is the current testing. Apparently this has also presented itself as a problem when there have been accidents, fatal or otherwise...and if no one has died yet that isn't to say no one ever will because accidents being what they are it is only a matter of time.

Are cell phone use / distracted driving and drunk driving worse? Probably / absolutely. But there are laws and ways officers and judges can verify the usage of those things being the cause of an accident. They "simply" are wanting an equivalent way to treat cases where drivers are high. Seems reasonable on the surface, just that tests are not accurate enough yet. My guess is that once the testing is solid, this will also come into play with job related accidents, fatal or otherwise, similar to how they might test if someone is suspected of drinking on the job leads to an accident.

I think it is less about having complete control and more about holding people accountable for their decisions that lead to others being harmed, which is understandable considering the billions in lawsuits around that very thing.

 

[cheeno]

Ok, I'll bite.

Ever watch the news lately? I do, and I hear about 2-3 people killed from drunk driving a day. I can't recall a time hearing "The driver was high on marijuana during the accident."

I've driven with potheads before, letting them drive. Some of the most cautious motherfucker's on the road. NEVER will I drive with someone who has been drinking though (to a degree, not like I'll care if someone has two beers). Which brings me to another point. Doesn't alcohol also impair reaction times? Isn't that legal? I'll be gosh darned.

And I've never smoked pot a day in my life. I'm all for the legalization of it. We'd be out of debt in a year (I'm kidding). It would also free up jail/prison space because people are idiots and keep getting caught smoking pot.

Can you cite this graph. It looks bogus.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Ok, I'll bite.

Ever watch the news lately? I do, and I hear about 2-3 people killed from drunk driving a day. I can't recall a time hearing "The driver was high on marijuana during the accident."

I've driven with potheads before, letting them drive. Some of the most cautious motherfucker's on the road. NEVER will I drive with someone who has been drinking though (to a degree, not like I'll care if someone has two beers). Which brings me to another point. Doesn't alcohol also impair reaction times? Isn't that legal? I'll be gosh darned.

And I've never smoked pot a day in my life. I'm all for the legalization of it. We'd be out of debt in a year (I'm kidding). It would also free up jail/prison space because people are idiots and keep getting caught smoking pot.

So weed is about a 1.6 on this graph so its safe to legalize? Lol.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'd probably be more into Vicodin to be honest.

I'm not sure about you but Vicodin puts me to sleep. I can't function on this stuff. If I have a wisdom tooth removed or some surgery I take one of these and go to bed all day..

 

[biggunsbob]

Vicodin is great... But my doctor to save my liver moved me up to Morphine extended release pills... The new pills are great for pain but they are not as fun as Vicodin which gives you that initial feel good euphoria in your head.. I can function on either but it is much better on the later pills... I just think alcohol is way worse then pot but it frustrates me that young athletes put their careers in jeopardy using it.. I had high hopes for ML..

 

[elrod817]

need to do pre-draft random drug testing IMO...and NCAA needs to start testing players, or if they do, they need to get better at it

The NCAA does not have a drug policy. They allow the schools to set their own drug policies individually. If a school has a drug policy and does not follow it the NCAA will punish/investigate them (see Syracuse hoops), but otherwise does not police it. Doesn't make much sense to me and if I were a school I would have no drug policy if the NCAA doesn't give a shit, but when has the NCAA made sense recently?

 

[MalFunkShun]

Can you cite this graph. It looks bogus.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(07)60464-4/fulltext

 

[cheeno]

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(07)60464-4/fulltext

OT:

Thanks for the link. I don't know if you read the article but it is trying to prove that drug classification in its current form is arbitrary. I do agree that the current classification system is not based on evidence of harm. But the chart is misleading in the fact that it is based on the potential for multiple use and its effect on those not taking the drug. So in this case a joint or a beer or a cigarette looks like it is more dangerous than ecstasy, which based on toxicology isn't true. So its not wrong but can be misleading, especially if you were to use the chart to say one drug is more harmful than another based on its effect in the body.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

Vicodin is fine and dandy but my tolerance builds up quickly. Try Roxicodone. Those will put you on your ass.

 

[theTutor]

Ok, I'll bite.

Ever watch the news lately? I do, and I hear about 2-3 people killed from drunk driving a day. I can't recall a time hearing "The driver was high on marijuana during the accident."

I've driven with potheads before, letting them drive. Some of the most cautious motherfucker's on the road. NEVER will I drive with someone who has been drinking though (to a degree, not like I'll care if someone has two beers). Which brings me to another point. Doesn't alcohol also impair reaction times? Isn't that legal? I'll be gosh darned.

And I've never smoked pot a day in my life. I'm all for the legalization of it. We'd be out of debt in a year (I'm kidding). It would also free up jail/prison space because people are idiots and keep getting caught smoking pot.

You think are prison is filled with a bunch of pot heads?

also, if you legalize weed, the deaths will skyrocket. I can promise you that.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/pot_driving.htm

 

[tonyballs]

You think are prison is filled with a bunch of pot heads?

also, if you legalize weed, the deaths will skyrocket. I can promise you that.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/pot_driving.htm

Do you pinky swear? A promise is so passe............