Lions rework contract of DT Akeem Spence then trade him to Dolphins

[tomdalton22]

Then quit your fkn whining then. You just said what LKP has been saying for yrs and yet you bash him lol.

I was pointing out that when LKP makes his stupid predictions he always predicts that everything will go right, which doesn't happen, for any team.

 

[tomdalton22]

Jets rebuild
Miami rebuild
Seattle rebuild
San Fran rebuild
Zona rebuild
Dallas rebuild
Bears perpetual rebuild


8 wins right there
Pats, Rams, Panthers are in Detroit. 2-1 there
at Buffalo, QB issues. Lions win
Split Vikings, split Packers


13-3

the moron is in full homer mode today :bs:

 

[tonyballs]

I don't recall hating slay per se. Most elite corners are taken in rd 1 and i thought it was a major need that deserved to be addressed early for a number of years yet always neglected. It baffled me how we kept trying to groom mid round picks to become quality starters. There was literally a gap from Terry fair to slay before we picked a corner in the early rounds... ridiculous. Slay progressed as well as anyone could have imagined.

You ripped on the Slay pick forever. Who are you trying to fool? Lol. You called him a wasted pick, a bust etc etc etc. Look at him now. He's a Pro Bowl, All Pro, ELITE CB in this league. I'm not even trying to buck with you, dude. You give nobody on this team a chance. You expect results the second these guys step on the field. It takes some time. As Lions fans, all we have is time lol.

 

[tonyballs]

I was pointing out that when LKP makes his stupid predictions he always predicts that everything will go right, which doesn't happen, for any team.

I think it's more of an IF things go right with LKP. And you just said it yourself....everything doesn't always go right. When LKP brings that up, he gets bashed for it. You say it and it's ok? Cmon bro lol

 

[tonyballs]

the moron is in full homer mode today :bs:

10-11 wins is doable. Get lucky, maybe more....

 

[LKP]

I think it's more of an IF things go right with LKP. And you just said it yourself....everything doesn't always go right. When LKP brings that up, he gets bashed for it. You say it and it's ok? Cmon bro lol

It is an IF thing. Exactly. Finally someone gets it

You want to know the ways the Lions improved. I listed all of them in many ways.

With normal health, the floor is 10 wins for this team.

If Stafford and Slay and Ansah again and Quin die, then yeah 4-5 wins.

 

[kalinecountry]

From what I have read, the shit starts when it is said that if this/that happened in a game, the preseason and in season injuries that occur, which every team deals with, and the infamous 'true win', that pisses many off.

Despite a more difficult 2018 schedule, there is better depth at many positions than previous years. So the 10 wins is possible. But if they finish at 8 -8, or a game or more under, some posters will pound that the draft of mostly offense and not D-line.

With lack of players who could start on many teams, lack of depth behind them,
and coming into a third year of Quinn 'fixing the Lions', did anyone really think decades of a mess could be fixed in this short a time?

 

[LKP]

Every lions starter could be a starter for every team

 

[tomdalton22]

It is an IF thing. Exactly. Finally someone gets it

You want to know the ways the Lions improved. I listed all of them in many ways.

With normal health, the floor is 10 wins for this team.

If Stafford and Slay and Ansah again and Quin die, then yeah 4-5 wins.

but normal health = injuries. EVERY team has significant injuries EVERY year.

There is no team in the NFL that has a floor of 10 wins. NOT A SINGLE TEAM.

 

[Mitchrapp]

From what I have read, the shit starts when it is said that if this/that happened in a game, the preseason and in season injuries that occur, which every team deals with, and the infamous 'true win', that pisses many off.

Despite a more difficult 2018 schedule, there is better depth at many positions than previous years. So the 10 wins is possible. But if they finish at 8 -8, or a game or more under, some posters will pound that the draft of mostly offense and not D-line.

With lack of players who could start on many teams, lack of depth behind them,
and coming into a third year of Quinn 'fixing the Lions', did anyone really think decades of a mess could be fixed in this short a time?

That's the thing, GM's get hired to fix things quickly. Or else they look elsewhere. Fair or not that's what happens.

 

[mhughes0021]

Every lions starter could be a starter for every team

Kerryon wouldn't start on about 16 teams
Glasgow wouldn't start for about 20 teams
Sly Williams wouldn't start for about 20 teams
Lawson 25 teams
Wilson 20 teams
Kennard 20+ teams

 

[tomdalton22]

Kerryon wouldn't start on about 16 teams
Glasgow wouldn't start for about 20 teams
Sly Williams wouldn't start for about 20 teams
Lawson 25 teams
Wilson 20 teams
Kennard 20+ teams

come on...he was trolling you...You were supposed to say Stafford 10 teams

 

[LKP]

Not trolling at all. Every single Lions starter could start for other teams. Blount was the starter for the Super Champions by the way. Kerryon a rookie and plenty of teams would be happy to have him.

 

[inkfreq]

Not trolling at all. Every single Lions starter could start for other teams. Blount was the starter for the Super Champions by the way. Kerryon a rookie and plenty of teams would be happy to have him.

I have to agree with LKP here. Blount would be a "starter" for almost any team in the league.. using the modern definition of the word as it pertains to running backs. Kerryon the same.

Glasgow I think would be starting for just about any team out there as well. He's still very young and has quite a bit of growing and maturing to do, but he's the kind of guy you keep putting in there to get that experience and watch him get better.

Sly Williams is a good player who would be a top 3 DT for any team, depending on how you set that rotation.

The rest of the players mentioned are hard to call starters but every one of them is better than a player starting on another team somewhere.

 

[LKP]

And there are varying degrees of starters. Now like of course Linval Joseph is better than him but if the Vikings didn't have Joseph and Williams was their starter, you wouldn't bat an eye at all. Sly Williams started for 2 other teams. He's a 1st round pick by the Broncos.


Same with Lawson. If Lawson was the starter for the Vikings for instance, you wouldn't bat an eye at all. He's a legit starting caliber player.


Now a guy like Nick Bellore. That's a guy who is clearly a backup. Lions don't have any clear backups starting. Maybe Christian Jones but he started many games in the league so far.


In other words, every Lions starter is starting caliber. Not the best starter ever, but starting caliber. As in if they started on any team, you wouldn't question it


Hughes saying the Lions have many backup caliber players starting, well that's just him being a hater

 

[tonyballs]

Kerryon wouldn't start on about 16 teams
Glasgow wouldn't start for about 20 teams
Sly Williams wouldn't start for about 20 teams
Lawson 25 teams
Wilson 20 teams
Kennard 20+ teams

Lmao. Wow. Dude, you're fucked....

 

[LKP]

Great Starters: Stafford, Tate, Jones, Lang, Wagner, Slay, Quin, Ansah
Good Starters: Davis, Glasgow,
Solid Starters: Hyder, CWash in 3-4, Robinson(good starter potential), Kennard, Blount, Johnson, Ragnow (could be average or good too), Sly Williams
Average Starters: Lawson (was solid in 2015/2016), Wilson, Diggs (nickel) or Tabor, (potential for solid/good), Abdullah, Luke Wilson, JRM
Poor Starters: Christian Jones
Backups as starters: none


Great returner, great kicker, good punter


Killebrew and Walker and Hand have starter potential too but not relied heavily yet.