Martin Prado

[thehippo73]

The reason the Braves would want just Delmon in this trade is because they have little power from the right side and need a corner outfielder, and they believe Delmon can be that guy.

Saw this posted on another board:

Tigers acquire Martin Prado and Michael Bourn

Braves acquire Delmon Young, Austin Jackson, Danny Worth, and Andy Oliver

This is why it would work, the Delmon part i already explained, Ajax gives them speed in the outfield, lowers payroll, and a right handed bat that Lloyd cannot solve but the Braves batting coach can. Danny Worth gives them a utility guy that can play 3B, SS, and 2B with a glove much better than Brooks Conrad and has a average bat that could give chipper a few off days, while being an improvement over Alex Gonzalez. Andy Oliver gives them a project that could be a valuable Bullpen arm if he can get his consistency down.

I don't know if the Braves would do it but i wouldn't be surprised if it happened

I think any Tiger fan would do this trade. I haven't seen anyone say A-Jax is untouchable.

 

[randyf10]

I know his defense isn't very good but trading away DY in his contract year is something I'm not sure of, I think he is one of these type of players who might have a great year with free agency looming. Now saying that, would I want to sign him for big money after this year, that would be questionable.

 

[spockmaster]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/tigers-interested-in-martin-prado.html


update: "TUESDAY, 10:55am: "There is a trade brewing between the Braves and Tigers centering around Prado for Young," reports ESPN's Jim Bowden."




doooooo eeeeeeeeeeeet

 

[pr0tege]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/tigers-interested-in-martin-prado.html


update: "TUESDAY, 10:55am: "There is a trade brewing between the Braves and Tigers centering around Prado for Young," reports ESPN's Jim Bowden."




doooooo eeeeeeeeeeeet

To continue that post:

However, MLB.com's Mark Bowman says there won't be a Young-Prado deal, as the majority of the Braves' front office isn't interested in Young.

 

[spockmaster]

i could swear that part wasnt there when i saw it at first lol.

 

[byco42]

Hard to fathom that the Braves are coveting Young.

 

[pr0tege]

They are still talking though so anything could happen but I think the center piece of the trade could become Rayburn instead of Young.

 

[byco42]

They are still talking though so anything could happen but I think the center piece of the trade could become Rayburn instead of Young.

Wow. Raburn a centerpiece of a trade? Actually, I'd like to see him stick around to see if he can actually hit the baseball before Bastille Day.

 

[jimrice]

They are still talking though so anything could happen but I think the center piece of the trade could become Rayburn instead of Young.

Wow. Raburn a centerpiece of a trade? Actually, I'd like to see him stick around to see if he can actually hit the baseball before Bastille Day.

Raburn is better than Young. Makes more sense.

 

[uofmpoweri]

Wow. Raburn a centerpiece of a trade? Actually, I'd like to see him stick around to see if he can actually hit the baseball before Bastille Day.

Raburn is better than Young. Makes more sense.

If we can get Prado for Rayburn then maybe we can trade Inge after all. Young has way more upside than Rayburn. He is 25, rayburn is 30. By the time we find out if Rayburn can put a full season together he will be over the hill.

 

[Rebbiv]

Raburn is better than Young. Makes more sense.

If we can get Prado for Rayburn then maybe we can trade Inge after all. Young has way more upside than Rayburn. He is 25, rayburn is 30. By the time we find out if Rayburn can put a full season together he will be over the hill.

Just to nit pick some, but Young is already 26. At that age, there is no upside. He is what he is.

 

[buddyboy2121]

If we can get Prado for Rayburn then maybe we can trade Inge after all. Young has way more upside than Rayburn. He is 25, rayburn is 30. By the time we find out if Rayburn can put a full season together he will be over the hill.

Just to nit pick some, but Young is already 26. At that age, there is no upside. He is what he is.

Yeah i bet they were saying the same thing about Jose Bautista. He is about to hit his prime.

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

What if the outfielder they want is Boesch? Unlike Young, he's not a liability playing defense, and actually has a rocket arm. Unlike Raburn, he's not old or useless in the first half of every season.

 

[michiganmania]

If Young can rebound from a down season last year at the plate his lack of defensive ability in LF will be outweighed by his bat. He was considered an up and coming star just a couple of years ago I believe. Time will tell though I guess.

 

[michiganmania]

What if the outfielder they want is Boesch? Unlike Young, he's not a liability playing defense, and actually has a rocket arm. Unlike Raburn, he's not old or useless in the first half of every season.

I do not think that there is much doubt that Boesch is going to start OF next year...I am guessing that AJAX, Boesch and the hated Young will be fairly decent for Detroit overall. Dirks and Kelly have played well when given the opportunity and I would think that they will find their way in and out of the outfield to give the starters rest and may play over one of them depending on the pitching. I am also assuming that Kelly will be back as I believe he is a FA. 2B and 3B are obviously much larger concerns than OF right now.

 

[Rebbiv]

If Young can rebound from a down season last year at the plate his lack of defensive ability in LF will be outweighed by his bat. He was considered an up and coming star just a couple of years ago I believe. Time will tell though I guess.

Of his 5 full seasons, only one has been above average. Yet. everyone wants to point to that 1 season. Why?

In 2000, Darin Erstad, at 26, hits .355 BAVG 25 HR 100 RBIs. In 14 seasons, he never exceeded any of those totals. EA lot on the old ESPN board wanted DET to get him so badly. Again, why?


Careful of "fluke" seasons. They get people in trouble. Inge has had two in his career.

 

[pr0tege]

The reason for Boesch not being valued over Raburn for the Braves is that they have a real need for right handed bats in the lineup. Currently loaded with left handed bats thus their reasoning for a trade more then likely to include Raburn over Boesch at this point.

 

[michiganmania]

If Young can rebound from a down season last year at the plate his lack of defensive ability in LF will be outweighed by his bat. He was considered an up and coming star just a couple of years ago I believe. Time will tell though I guess.

Of his 5 full seasons, only one has been above average. Yet. everyone wants to point to that 1 season. Why?

In 2000, Darin Erstad, at 26, hits .355 BAVG 25 HR 100 RBIs. In 14 seasons, he never exceeded any of those totals. EA lot on the old ESPN board wanted DET to get him so badly. Again, why?


Careful of "fluke" seasons. They get people in trouble. Inge has had two in his career.

His career BAVG is just about .300 isnt it? The guy has power and a decent BAVG over his career. I think Detroit is a good place for him to bring some numbers back up. Our lineup offers pretty good protection. I guess I am just an optimist with Young for some reason.

 

[pr0tege]

From all I am hearing it would cost the Tigers Raburn and either Eugenio Suarez or Daniel Fields and possibly a lower rated prospect for Prado.

 

[spockmaster]

Of his 5 full seasons, only one has been above average. Yet. everyone wants to point to that 1 season. Why?

In 2000, Darin Erstad, at 26, hits .355 BAVG 25 HR 100 RBIs. In 14 seasons, he never exceeded any of those totals. EA lot on the old ESPN board wanted DET to get him so badly. Again, why?


Careful of "fluke" seasons. They get people in trouble. Inge has had two in his career.

His career BAVG is just about .300 isnt it? The guy has power and a decent BAVG over his career. I think Detroit is a good place for him to bring some numbers back up. Our lineup offers pretty good protection. I guess I am just an optimist with Young for some reason.

you are.

his career slash line is .288/.321.428/.749. A .749 OPS roughly average for a corner outfielder offensively, and his OBP is downright bad. If he played average defense it wouldn't be that bad, but hes probably the worst defensive outfielder in baseball not named adam dunn. to only accumulate 1.6 TOTAL WAR in 5.5-6 years is pathetic. Hell, even mudhen managed to get 1.2 WAR just this season and managed to get 2.2 WAR last season. The best Young has been able to do was 1.8 in 2010, but since he was worth -1.5 WAR both of the years before that combined it gets washed out in his career WAR. He's just not a good player. He is good for a hollow .280-.290 BA and mediocre power while providing horrible defense, virtually no walks, and grounding into a ton of DPs. I'll be pissed if he's still on the roster come opening day.