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Megatron 2000 yard season?

THE Lion to take earlier than you should: Pettigrew

Nah. He was barely worth playing last year, and there's no reason to think he'll improve on last year's numbers with Young improving and Broyles forcing Detroit to use 4 WRs more often.
 
Nah. He was barely worth playing last year, and there's no reason to think he'll improve on last year's numbers with Young improving and Broyles forcing Detroit to use 4 WRs more often.


Linehan is not a big fan of 4 WR sets and loves the TE in his offense.

'Grews a great candidate for 70 catches 750+ yards and 5 - 8 TDS

in PPR leagues Pettigrew is a must have top 5 TE
 
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15 end zone targets for Pettigrew last year. Third behind Gronk and Graham. He equals or surpasses that target rate this year and steals some of CJs TDs. He was second in total targets among all TEs behind Graham and had 2 more targets than Gronk. His avg yards per catch is low but I always take targets over YPC in fantasy.

I think he'll rack up approximately 850 yds 8 tds 130+ FFP Good for 3rd last year.
 
Slicks is probably closer to reality, mine is on the high end but do able.
 
Hopefully the Lions have a little better running game this year which should reduce some of the numbers for the WR/TEs. That said I think Pettigrew will still get close to that 70 rec 700 yds, 5-8 TD that Slick posted.
 
Linehan is not a big fan of 4 WR sets and loves the TE in his offense.

'Grews a great candidate for 70 catches 750+ yards and 5 - 8 TDS

in PPR leagues Pettigrew is a must have top 5 TE

PPR, fine. But in a standard, 10 team league, he's a low end starter. Without much upside to enter the top 5, I think he's being drafted right around where he should be.

Also, I wouldn't be a fan of 4 WRs if it meant putting Stovall in. If Broyles is as good as they say, he'll push for some playing time. I'm not saying we'll see it a lot, but I think we'll see it more than last year.
 
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PPR, fine. But in a standard, 10 team league, he's a low end starter. Without much upside to enter the top 5, I think he's being drafted right around where he should be.

Also, I wouldn't be a fan of 4 WRs if it meant putting Stovall in. If Broyles is as good as they say, he'll push for some playing time. I'm not saying we'll see it a lot, but I think we'll see it more than last year.

750 yards and 7 TDs would put Pettigrew around 30 points less than Gronk and Grahams 2012 projection (good for 4th). Those two's average draft position is round 1-2. Pettigrew: rounds 8-9. Take him in rounds 6-7 if you miss out on those two and you have a steal.
 
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750 yards and 7 TDs would put Pettigrew around 30 points less than Gronk and Grahams 2012 projection (good for 4th). Those two's average draft position is round 1-2. Pettigrew: rounds 8-9. Take him in rounds 6-7 if you miss out on those two and you have a steal.

You're using bad logic. Projections often scale back the stats for most because of the ridiculously high numbers offenses put up last season. If you're going to pay attention to that, you need to do it for Pettigrew as well.

Last year, with 777 and 5, he was the 11th TE in a standard league. I'm confused as to why you think his numbers won't go down, but others will (as the projections often indicate). Yahoo projects Pettigrew at 626 and 4. If you think this is conservative, can't we argue the same for most of the guys who were in front of him last year?
 
if I get 10 points outta my TE in 50% of my fantasy games Im happy...last year Pettigrew did that....most leagues Ive mocked so far this year have Gronk and Graham going late 1st early 2nd....then you get your 2nd tier guys Gates , Witten , Finley , Hernandez going 4th and 5th round....if I gotta take Pettigrew in round 6 or 7 Id be happy and ink him in there every week.
 
if I get 10 points outta my TE in 50% of my fantasy games Im happy...last year Pettigrew did that....most leagues Ive mocked so far this year have Gronk and Graham going late 1st early 2nd....then you get your 2nd tier guys Gates , Witten , Finley , Hernandez going 4th and 5th round....if I gotta take Pettigrew in round 6 or 7 Id be happy and ink him in there every week.

Not saying he's a bad player, I simply think he's being drafted right around where he should be. According to Yahoo, he's being picked as the 9th TE (legit), and his ADP is 80th. Sounds good to me. Basically, all 6 guys you mentioned, plus the two Davis guys ahead of him.
 
You're using bad logic. Projections often scale back the stats for most because of the ridiculously high numbers offenses put up last season. If you're going to pay attention to that, you need to do it for Pettigrew as well.

Last year, with 777 and 5, he was the 11th TE in a standard league. I'm confused as to why you think his numbers won't go down, but others will (as the projections often indicate). Yahoo projects Pettigrew at 626 and 4. If you think this is conservative, can't we argue the same for most of the guys who were in front of him last year?

My logic is partially based on regression towards (an albeit, projected [or made up] mean). The thing is my opinion sets the mean. I think Pettigrew fell below his mean potential last year, you (and yahoo) think he equaled or surpassed it.

To Slick's point and my original point, IMO based on Average Draft Position, Pettigrew is the Lion you may want to take 1-2 rounds ahead. CJ and Staff are already high, you could make a case for Young but in the 8th (given the sheer number of WR) I think is about right. Burleson is currently undrafted.
 
I certainly hope not cuz if he does they'll likely mean the running game is even worse than last year. I say not even close, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he's under last years numbers as the ground game improves slightly over last year..
 
I certainly hope not cuz if he does they'll likely mean the running game is even worse than last year. I say not even close, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he's under last years numbers as the ground game improves slightly over last year..

The running game is a myth in Detroit.
 
I expect more throwing and the pick of Broyles just cemented the idea. We are a throwing team. Lets embrace it and move on. Its a new NFL You no longer need a running game to win. However you cant win if you cant throw and we have all the weapons to be able to throw against any team in the NFL.
 
PPR, fine. But in a standard, 10 team league, he's a low end starter. Without much upside to enter the top 5, I think he's being drafted right around where he should be.

Also, I wouldn't be a fan of 4 WRs if it meant putting Stovall in. If Broyles is as good as they say, he'll push for some playing time. I'm not saying we'll see it a lot, but I think we'll see it more than last year.

Low end starter? He's the 4th or 5th TE off the board....c'mon.
 
Low end starter? He's the 4th or 5th TE off the board....c'mon.

WHAT? Gronk, Graham, Hernandez, Gates, Vernon Davis, Witten, Fred Davis, Finley all get taken ahead of him. He doesn't have high upside. You know what you're gonna get.
 
WHAT? Gronk, Graham, Hernandez, Gates, Vernon Davis, Witten, Fred Davis, Finley all get taken ahead of him. He doesn't have high upside. You know what you're gonna get.

Sometimes "what you're going to get" is better than "upside" because sometimes upside doesn't pan out.
 
Reasons for it:
DBs/Defenses in our league are aged and not very good.
We will throw a ton
CJ is insane

Reasons against it:
It will be a slight miracle if we ever see another fully healthy season from stafford and CJ during the same year again.

Our support is so good now that if they roll coverage to CJ, staff can pick apart the other side of the field. = Broyles/Titus/Nate/Pettigrew/Best get easy catches. It seemed Stafford bought a lot more into the system last year. If CJ was covered he moved on to the next guy. Gone seem to be the days where all else fails he just chucks it down to CJ 50 yds down the field.
 
wait, people still play fantasy football without the PPR format? I was under the impression that PPR has transitioned into being the standard and that Pettigrew was a surefire #1 tight end. next you're going to be telling me people still call in their lineups the night before and we have to wait for the monday paper for scoring.
 
Sometimes "what you're going to get" is better than "upside" because sometimes upside doesn't pan out.

Every TE I mentioned also outscored Pettigrew last year, so we don't even need to talk about upside to put those guys ahead of him.

Seriously, he was the #11 TE in a standard last year while playing a full season. There's little to no reason to expect his statistics to increase significantly. How on earth will he make it into the top 5?
 
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