Mikel Leshoure sighting

[tonyballs]

rb is worthless in the league unless they can be used as a quality receiving option. Either that or they are Adrian Peterson. Everyone else needs a good run blocking oline. Our dumb gm TRADES UP for 2 worthless rbs in the high rounds. lmao...it really is hysterical.

Tell that to the Seattle Seahawks. Terrible OLine and a beast RB. You have no idea what you're talking about. AT ALL.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Tell that to Ernie Sims. He was a concussion king in college and has never had one in the pros.

I'm not saying it's happens to everyone as a pro but the chance of a second do go up.

 

[LKP]

Tell that to the Seattle Seahawks. Terrible OLine and a beast RB. You have no idea what you're talking about. AT ALL.

Seattle used a 4th on Turbin and a 2nd last year on that Michael at RB. And they have Lynch. Hughes is clueless as always.

San Fran have Gore and took Lattimore (4th), Hunter (4th), James (2nd) and Hyde (2nd).

RBs are important. Two of them that produce. Best got hurt so we restocked with Bush. Drafted Leshoure before we found out about Bell. 6th round Riddick is clearly good depth. You going to fault him for using a 6th for depth. Things like this happen all the time and it's not a slight on Mayhew.

 

[mhughes0021]

Seattle used a 4th on Turbin and a 2nd last year on that Michael at RB. And they have Lynch. Hughes is clueless as always.

San Fran have Gore and took Lattimore (4th), Hunter (4th), James (2nd) and Hyde (2nd).

RBs are important. Two of them that produce. Best got hurt so we restocked with Bush. Drafted Leshoure before we found out about Bell. 6th round Riddick is clearly good depth. You going to fault him for using a 6th for depth. Things like this happen all the time and it's not a slight on Mayhew.

youre comparing sea and sfs run games to ours lmao.....and you call me clueless???? ignorant.....just ignorant....

 

[LKP]

youre comparing sea and sfs run games to ours lmao.....and you call me clueless???? ignorant.....just ignorant....

No. I'm showing you how RBs are important. As running teams had a ton of RBs added in earlier rounds, EVEN if they already have one good one (Gore/Lynch).

Gore and Lynch. But they keep adding more and more. Rbs are important is what I'm saying. I didn't "compare" running games.

I'd take Bush and Bell over Hunter/Hyde/Lattimore/Michael and Turbin easily though.

The Lions used 3 draft picks in 2010/2011 for RBs. Get the hell over it. We still found good RBs.

 

[mhughes0021]

The Lions used 3 draft picks in 2010/2011 for RBs. Get the hell over it. We still found good RBs.

yup an none of them came from the draft picks. aka we wasted the draft picks. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Cheeno said it perfectly last week and you fail to listen. We go out and sign free agents to put band aids on the lack of drafting success from mayhew. Most teams use FA to fill holes in places of need. We need ot use FA to fix everything mayhew cant do via draft cause hes a moron. Aka....were spinning our wheels and nothing is improving.

 

[LKP]

yup an none of them came from the draft picks. aka we wasted the draft picks. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Cheeno said it perfectly last week and you fail to listen. We go out and sign free agents to put band aids on the lack of drafting success from mayhew. Most teams use FA to fill holes in places of need. We need ot use FA to fix everything mayhew cant do via draft cause hes a moron. Aka....were spinning our wheels and nothing is improving.

Best wasn't a waste. Just an injury.

LeShoure can still be used. Good to have depth.

We wasted nothing, especially at the time. RBs important enough to take in 2010/2011 early in the draft.

 

[LKP]

yup an none of them came from the draft picks. aka we wasted the draft picks. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Cheeno said it perfectly last week and you fail to listen. We go out and sign free agents to put band aids on the lack of drafting success from mayhew. Most teams use FA to fill holes in places of need. We need ot use FA to fix everything mayhew cant do via draft cause hes a moron. Aka....were spinning our wheels and nothing is improving.

Mix of free agentcy is important. Draft picks didn't work due to injury. Smart for Mayhew to realize it and fix it. Not just with FA either. Draft too(Ebron and Riddick).

 

[Mitchrapp]

Best wasn't a waste. Just an injury.

LeShoure can still be used. Good to have depth.

We wasted nothing, especially at the time. RBs important enough to take in 2010/2011 early in the draft.

Call an injury, was a good pick at the time but Best was a waste at the end of the day.

LeShoure, I'm not sure what he'll do but so far 2 of 3 years he hasn't played..a waste.

 

[LKP]

Call an injury, was a good pick at the time but Best was a waste at the end of the day.

LeShoure, I'm not sure what he'll do but so far 2 of 3 years he hasn't played..a waste.

Not Mayhews fault. And he got Bush when he could. Good job Mayhew. Made the most of a bad injury situation.

LeShoure did well until Thanksgiving 2012. Good depth. No shame in getting beat out by Bell. It happens to some late 2nd round picks.

This offense is stacked. Mayhew has done a good job and completed his work despite many injury setbacks. Defense has plenty of talent and we'll see how they operate in the new scheme.

 

[jdeb]

Best would have been a very good player if he did not have those concussions. No one really knew or focused at the time for how serious they were. Best kind of led the way in my mind. Mayhew kind of let the other GM's off the hook moving forward. You won't see many players with Best's history being drafted very high. So I can't really get on him for that pick.

Leshoure is or was a pot head and the reason for being in the dog house. He was suspended for 2 games which if I recall correctly means he would have been busted 3 times. Granted he tore his Achilles but as far as Mayhew being called out is kind of speculative. I guess you could question his analytical skills in choosing character guys but in this industry, who knows.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Best would have been a very good player if he did not have those concussions. No one really knew or focused at the time for how serious they were. Best kind of led the way in my mind. Mayhew kind of let the other GM's off the hook moving forward. You won't see many players with Best's history being drafted very high. So I can't really get on him for that pick.

Leshoure is or was a pot head and the reason for being in the dog house. He was suspended for 2 games which if I recall correctly means he would have been busted 3 times. Granted he tore his Achilles but as far as Mayhew being called out is kind of speculative. I guess you could question his analytical skills in choosing character guys but in this industry, who knows.

To me, the Best pick was the correct pick at the time. He was a difference maker when he played. Absolutely HAD to be accounted for.....especially in the short passing/screen game. True difference makers don't come around that often in the NFL, when you can get one.....sometimes you have to take the risk.

Lions needed a playmaker in the backfield at the time....Best fit the mold. To be honest, he still has had the 4th most productive career of any running back in that draft. SAD RB class in 2010.

1 9 Buffalo Bills C. J. Spiller Clemson
1 12 San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews Fresno State
1 30 Detroit Lions Jahvid Best California
2 36 Kansas City Chiefs Dexter McCluster Ole Miss
2 51 Minnesota Vikings Toby Gerhart Stanford
2 58 Houston Texans Ben Tate Auburn
2 59 Cleveland Browns Montario Hardesty Tennessee
4 112 New York Jets Joe McKnight USC
6 173 San Francisco 49ers Anthony Dixon Mississippi State
6 180 Jacksonville Jaguars Deji Karim Southern Illinois
6 188 Pittsburgh Steelers Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech
6 193 Green Bay Packers James Starks Buffalo
6 200 Philadelphia Eagles Charles Scott LSU

 

[mhughes0021]

To me, the Best pick was the correct pick at the time. He was a difference maker when he played. Absolutely HAD to be accounted for.....especially in the short passing/screen game. True difference makers don't come around that often in the NFL, when you can get one.....sometimes you have to take the risk.

Lions needed a playmaker in the backfield at the time....Best fit the mold. To be honest, he still has had the 4th most productive career of any running back in that draft. SAD RB class in 2010.

1 9 Buffalo Bills C. J. Spiller Clemson
1 12 San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews Fresno State
1 30 Detroit Lions Jahvid Best California
2 36 Kansas City Chiefs Dexter McCluster Ole Miss
2 51 Minnesota Vikings Toby Gerhart Stanford
2 58 Houston Texans Ben Tate Auburn
2 59 Cleveland Browns Montario Hardesty Tennessee
4 112 New York Jets Joe McKnight USC
6 173 San Francisco 49ers Anthony Dixon Mississippi State
6 180 Jacksonville Jaguars Deji Karim Southern Illinois
6 188 Pittsburgh Steelers Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech
6 193 Green Bay Packers James Starks Buffalo
6 200 Philadelphia Eagles Charles Scott LSU

But to trade up for rbs. Thats plural...running BACKS. Meaning he purposefully traded away value...to get a rb...twice...in the high rds....in today's game....with all the holes this team has been littered with? Throw in broyles luxory 5th string wr picks in the 2nd rd...and that's why you have a team void of any depth or talent.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

But to trade up for rbs. Thats plural...runnings BACKS. Meaning he purposefully traded away value...to get a rb...twice...in the high rds....in today's game....with all the holes this team has been littered with? Throw in broyles luxory 5th string wr picks in the 2nd rd...and that's why you have a team void of any depth or talent.

I have zero problem with what was given up. None. It's only an issue because of the way Best's career turned out.

The problem with Best was strictly injuries. He produced at a high level when he played and was not a character concern.

Best filled a hole. A major hole at RB. Just couldn't shake the concussion bug.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I have a problem because he was concussed before being drafted..chances go up to a second one, and 3rd one etc.

Yes, some who get concussed once don't get concussed again. Nonetheless, it was a risk that didn't work out.

Don't get me started with drafting a slot WR in the second, injured or not. Add in the injury and it becomes much worse. Because at the time there was a very good chance he wasn't going to play season one.

 

[mhughes0021]

I have zero problem with what was given up. None. It's only an issue because of the way Best's career turned out.

The problem with Best was strictly injuries. He produced at a high level when he played and was not a character concern.

Best filled a hole. A major hole at RB. Just couldn't shake the concussion bug.

he wasn't a very good rb at all....he was a great pass catching threat. not a very good rb.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

he wasn't a very good rb at all....he was a great pass catching threat. not a very good rb.

Based on what? One injury prone year of playing through two turf toes? He had nearly 700 yards of offense in 6 games his second year before finally going down. Dude was a playmaker.

 

[mhughes0021]

Based on what? One injury prone year of playing through two turf toes? He had nearly 700 yards of offense in 6 games his second year before finally going down. Dude was a playmaker.

again youre talking total yards....I agreed he was a great threat out of the backfield. He wasn't a very good running back....meaning he didn't run the ball well. Or are you now going to say that YPC doesn't matter? In his only full year he played he averaged 3.2 YPC....that's awful.

 

[LKP]

Turf toe in 2010 almost all year. That can easily explain 3.2 YPC plus bad run blocking. Monster game against Philly before the turf toe. Bears did well against him YPC but he had two rushing TDs. Plus how much of that is on the Oline. Got going against Cowboys 4.3 YPC and destroyed Bears in 2011 to give him a good average for 2011. He had a good all around day against Tampa and had a huge reception to continue the great comeback at Minnesota. He was a huge asset.

Giving up 4th round value was a good trade to ensure we got him in 2010. You don't understand how badly we needed playmakers back then at RB. Nobody should ever discredit Mayhew for that trade.

Talking Peterman not Warford and Raiola wasn't always the run blocker. Sims struggled in 2010 as well. Backus and Pettigrew were the only ones with good run blocking grades in 2010.

 

[mhughes0021]

Turf toe in 2010 almost all year. That can easily explain 3.2 YPC plus bad run blocking. Monster game against Philly before the turf toe. Bears did well against him YPC but he had two rushing TDs. Plus how much of that is on the Oline. Got going against Cowboys 4.3 YPC and destroyed Bears in 2011 to give him a good average for 2011. He had a good all around day against Tampa and had a huge reception to continue the great comeback at Minnesota. He was a huge asset.

Giving up 4th round value was a good trade to ensure we got him in 2010. You don't understand how badly we needed playmakers back then at RB. Nobody should ever discredit Mayhew for that trade.

Talking Peterman not Warford and Raiola wasn't always the run blocker. Sims struggled in 2010 as well. Backus and Pettigrew were the only ones with good run blocking grades in 2010.

youre helping my "mayhew is a moron" argument:

drafting 2 high rd RBs in todays game - questionable
trading up for 2 high rd RBs in todays game - moronic
trading up for 2 high rd rbs in todays game with no oline - just pure dumb
trading up to draft jahvid best with a history of concussions with no oline - gets you sued.