My way too early yardage prediction thread

[LKP]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2014/06/die-hard_detroit_lions_fan_get.html

Just going to leave this here.

 

[LKP]

Stafford does just enough to lose games. Does his record say otherwise? He loses games, that's exactly what he does, every season. Until he becomes a "WINNING" qb, he isn't shit!!!

Stafford doesn't have a record. The team does.

 

[brewer229]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2014/06/die-hard_detroit_lions_fan_get.html

Just going to leave this here.

I will give you 3x the cost of the tattoo if you get a Stafford 2014 NFL MVP tattoo right now and he goes on to win the MvP next year.

 

[kdp80]

Good little piece that describes Staffords last eight games to a tee. Dissappointing, that's what Stafford has been, nothing more.

Detroit Lions awards: Matthew Stafford is most disappointing player of year

Matthew Stafford had his worst season since his rookie year, and for that, was named MLive's most disappointing Lions player of the season. (Mike Mulholland | MLive.com)

By*Kyle Meinke | [email protected]*
Follow on Twitter*
on January 12, 2014 at 4:59 AM, updated*January 12, 2014 at 5:02 AM



The Detroit Lions got off to a promising start last season, but lost six of their final seven games to finish a disappointing 7-9.

Now the question is, who was the most disappointing player on one of the NFL's most disappointing teams?

There were a few possibilities, but we elected to go with the guy who became the face of Detroit's cataclysmic finish: Quarterback Matthew Stafford.

Kyle Meinke
Stafford didn't have the worst season of any Lions player. That honor could belong to, say, Ryan Broyles, who caught only eight passes in an injury shortened year. Or Chris Houston, whom PFF graded as Detroit's worst defender just months after he signed a $25 million contract.

But Stafford did have the most disappointing season.

Detroit invested heavily in its quarterback last offseason, signing him to a three-year extension that guaranteed him more than $40 million. Stafford rewarded the club by having his worst season since he was a rookie.

He completed only 58.5 percent of his passes, 30th in the NFL, and threw 19 interceptions, which were sixth most.

And what's particularly damning is Stafford was at his worst when the Lions needed him most. They started the season 6-3, while Chicago and Green Bay were playing without their quarterbacks, and the playoffs seemed to be a lock.

But then Stafford threw 12 interceptions over the final seven games, and had 14 turnovers overall. That was more than any other player in the entire league over that span.

He threw a pick-six that completed a fourth-quarter collapse against woeful Tampa Bay. He threw a pick that ended a comeback attempt against the New York Giants -- and ousted the Lions from the playoff chase.

Stafford did all that despite having one of the NFL's best offensive lines in front of him, one of the best 1-2 tailback combinations behind him and one of the best receivers in the history of the game split out wide.

The Lions weren't perfect. But the thing is, no team ever is. Stafford was surrounded by enough weaponry to rival nearly every offense in professional football, yet fell flat on his face.

Justin Rogers
How can anything trump the disappointment of a golden opportunity blown?

The Bears and Packers rolled out the red carpet, begging Detroit to win the NFC North, but as the Lions attempted to waltz into the postseason, the team tripped over its own feet and fell flat on its face.

Instead of hosting a playoff game at Ford Field, the Lions are now looking for a new coach.

The collapse was a collective one -- offense, defense, special teams and coaching -- but the quarterback always bears the brunt of the criticism. In this case, it's justified.

Stafford was one of the league's worst quarterbacks during the second half of the season. He completed just 54.1 percent of his passes, while tossing 13 interceptions.

His ineffectiveness in the second half against Pittsburgh, and his turnovers against Tampa Bay, Baltimore and the New York Giants, all led to narrow defeats, and ultimately dashed the team's postseason hopes.

 

[LKP]

I don't see full context in those articles. They overreacteed based on 9 picks. Some not his fault.

 

[tomdalton22]

Good little piece that describes Staffords last eight games to a tee. Dissappointing, that's what Stafford has been, nothing more.

Detroit Lions awards: Matthew Stafford is most disappointing player of year

Matthew Stafford had his worst season since his rookie year, and for that, was named MLive's most disappointing Lions player of the season. (Mike Mulholland | MLive.com)

By*Kyle Meinke | [email protected]*
Follow on Twitter*
on January 12, 2014 at 4:59 AM, updated*January 12, 2014 at 5:02 AM



The Detroit Lions got off to a promising start last season, but lost six of their final seven games to finish a disappointing 7-9.

Now the question is, who was the most disappointing player on one of the NFL's most disappointing teams?

There were a few possibilities, but we elected to go with the guy who became the face of Detroit's cataclysmic finish: Quarterback Matthew Stafford.

Kyle Meinke
Stafford didn't have the worst season of any Lions player. That honor could belong to, say, Ryan Broyles, who caught only eight passes in an injury shortened year. Or Chris Houston, whom PFF graded as Detroit's worst defender just months after he signed a $25 million contract.

But Stafford did have the most disappointing season.

Detroit invested heavily in its quarterback last offseason, signing him to a three-year extension that guaranteed him more than $40 million. Stafford rewarded the club by having his worst season since he was a rookie.

He completed only 58.5 percent of his passes, 30th in the NFL, and threw 19 interceptions, which were sixth most.

And what's particularly damning is Stafford was at his worst when the Lions needed him most. They started the season 6-3, while Chicago and Green Bay were playing without their quarterbacks, and the playoffs seemed to be a lock.

But then Stafford threw 12 interceptions over the final seven games, and had 14 turnovers overall. That was more than any other player in the entire league over that span.

He threw a pick-six that completed a fourth-quarter collapse against woeful Tampa Bay. He threw a pick that ended a comeback attempt against the New York Giants -- and ousted the Lions from the playoff chase.

Stafford did all that despite having one of the NFL's best offensive lines in front of him, one of the best 1-2 tailback combinations behind him and one of the best receivers in the history of the game split out wide.

The Lions weren't perfect. But the thing is, no team ever is. Stafford was surrounded by enough weaponry to rival nearly every offense in professional football, yet fell flat on his face.

Justin Rogers
How can anything trump the disappointment of a golden opportunity blown?

The Bears and Packers rolled out the red carpet, begging Detroit to win the NFC North, but as the Lions attempted to waltz into the postseason, the team tripped over its own feet and fell flat on its face.

Instead of hosting a playoff game at Ford Field, the Lions are now looking for a new coach.

The collapse was a collective one -- offense, defense, special teams and coaching -- but the quarterback always bears the brunt of the criticism. In this case, it's justified.

Stafford was one of the league's worst quarterbacks during the second half of the season. He completed just 54.1 percent of his passes, while tossing 13 interceptions.

His ineffectiveness in the second half against Pittsburgh, and his turnovers against Tampa Bay, Baltimore and the New York Giants, all led to narrow defeats, and ultimately dashed the team's postseason hopes.

LOL....LKP will pick this apart with his "excuses". He is the only one who doesn't see the truth...he just sees what he wants to see.

 

[kdp80]

LOL....LKP will pick this apart with his "excuses". He is the only one who doesn't see the truth...he just sees what he wants to see.

Exactly what he did too. 99.999999% of all analysts and Lions fans must be wrong about Staffords play so far in his career.

 

[LKP]

LOL....LKP will pick this apart with his "excuses". He is the only one who doesn't see the truth...he just sees what he wants to see.

They are facts that happened. Facts are facts, not excuses.

 

[LKP]

Exactly what he did too. 99.999999% of all analysts and Lions fans must be wrong about Staffords play so far in his career.

Most are very misinformed. Those articles don't have the full context. Saying that gets readers for them.

 

[kdp80]

They are facts that happened. Facts are facts, not excuses.

That Stafford imploded to end the season? Yes, that is a fact!!! Once again, you are wrong LKP. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!

 

[mhughes0021]

Carey is fine as a safety. See 2012. Nickel CB is where he struggled (other than at Chi game) and that was due to Bentley hurt and Mathis playing for Slay(Pittsburgh) and Mathis hurt the other game (Giants game). It took two injuries to get him on the field at nickel.

dick night train lane was good in 1966. so what?

 

[dubbsco]

Here's the problem LKP. You talk about Stafford after 61 games about how he's better than Manning and Brees. That's a complete lie, but that's not the point. For every single one of the justifications made about Stafford's INTs, I can guaren-damn-tee that Manning and Brees had a large portion of their INTs happen due to some weird circumstance. Tipped ball, great play, whatever. That's football. It happens to every QB, not just Matthew Stafford. Dealing with rain, snow, wind... Every QB deals with that too. In fact, Stafford's numbers are probably boosted big time by the fact that he doesn't have to deal with any conditions for half the year. I hope you can take off your blinders someday. He's not an elite QB. There are at least 10 QBs I would take before him (I have listed them in previous threads). I don't know what it's going to take for you to realize this is a horrible franchise, and they haven't done anything other than make ONE playoff appearance in lord knows how long in FOREVER.

If Stafford does not lead this team to the playoffs, with the multitude of "weapons" that the GM for whatever reason thinks he needs, it's time to move on. Other than one great year, his numbers are bad. They just are. And for someone who is all about stats, I don't understand why you can't see that.

 

[LKP]

Bress in San Diego and New Orleans. Peyton in a dome. It's not a lie it's a fact stafford was better.

 

[LKP]

Here's the problem LKP. You talk about Stafford after 61 games about how he's better than Manning and Brees. That's a complete lie, but that's not the point. For every single one of the justifications made about Stafford's INTs, I can guaren-damn-tee that Manning and Brees had a large portion of their INTs happen due to some weird circumstance. Tipped ball, great play, whatever. That's football. It happens to every QB, not just Matthew Stafford. Dealing with rain, snow, wind... Every QB deals with that too. In fact, Stafford's numbers are probably boosted big time by the fact that he doesn't have to deal with any conditions for half the year. I hope you can take off your blinders someday. He's not an elite QB. There are at least 10 QBs I would take before him (I have listed them in previous threads). I don't know what it's going to take for you to realize this is a horrible franchise, and they haven't done anything other than make ONE playoff appearance in lord knows how long in FOREVER.

If Stafford does not lead this team to the playoffs, with the multitude of "weapons" that the GM for whatever reason thinks he needs, it's time to move on. Other than one great year, his numbers are bad. They just are. And for someone who is all about stats, I don't understand why you can't see that.

Stats and context and game tape. You fools only care about comp percentage without context and ints without regards to attempts and fault. And you completely ignore the tds, yards and how good he is at leading long drives and converting 3rd downs. 40 tds for stafford with these weapons

 

[jdeb]

Stats and context and game tape. You fools only care about comp percentage without context and ints without regards to attempts and fault. And you completely ignore the tds, yards and how good he is at leading long drives and converting 3rd downs. 40 tds for stafford with these weapons

I only care about winning and Stafford hasn't done diddly with that and you can't argue that.

 

[LKP]

I only care about winning and Stafford hasn't done diddly with that and you can't argue that.

He has done enough to win. Weapons let him down. Few times defense. Few times st. Few times oline

 

[dubbsco]

Oh yeah, those 100 weapons that the Lions keep giving Stafford let him down. Like the best WR to ever play the game. He sucks.

 

[LKP]

Oh yeah, those 100 weapons that the Lions keep giving Stafford let him down. Like the best WR to ever play the game. He sucks.

Need more than one wr in this league. Burleson for half a season doesn't cut. Lions agree. Got Tate and ebron to prove me right that weapons were a problem

 

[Mitchrapp]

Need more than one wr in this league. Burleson for half a season doesn't cut. Lions agree. Got Tate and ebron to prove me right that weapons were a problem

All it proofs is Staff sucks. The OL who you stated let him now are still the same. The ST who you stated let him down are still here..

 

[LKP]

All it proofs is Staff sucks. The OL who you stated let him now are still the same. The ST who you stated let him down are still here..

Waddle plays more. Progression. Sims healthier. Reiff experience. Strike 1 Mitch

St added IAQ Cory greenwood and Montell Owens back. Strike 2 Mitch

It proves the weapons sucks. It proves they know stafford isn't the problem. Strike 3 Mitch

You are out