NCAA seed

[MSUMatt28]

Anyone think we've done enough to get back up to the 3 line or would we need a win tomorrow? I had seen some projections with us at a 5 a couple of days ago though probably more still had us at 4. It might depend on how much of a break they get, if any, for some of the injuries.

At any rate, glad to be watching them play in the finals tomorrow.

 

[LuciousGameWinner]

If they win tomorrow they're a 2. At worst a 3. It's possible that 3 big ten teams get 2 seeds, I don't know if that's ever happened before.

 

[johnny2x2x]

If they win tomorrow they're a 2. At worst a 3. It's possible that 3 big ten teams get 2 seeds, I don't know if that's ever happened before.

Win and we get a 3, lose and we get a 4. Do not think we can get a 2.

 

[MSUMatt28]

Win and we get a 3, lose and we get a 4. Do not think we can get a 2.

This is what I'm thinking now that I look at it.

Given where we'll likely we seeded we kind of got hammered in the rankings for losing a few games.

 

[Sbee]

I think we're a 2 if we win. Committee will consider injuries, wed have 8 losses, same as Michigan and kansas would have.

 

[gotime909]

I honestly wouldn't rule it out that we could get to as high as 2 with a win tomorrow. The committee really looks at injuries. If we can back up today's performance tomorrow we could have a slight chance.

My guess-
Get blown out tomorrow-4 seed
Lose a close game-3
Win a close game-3
Win easily-2

 

[MSUMatt28]

I don't see us a getting a 2. Whether we can lose tomorrow and still get a 3 might depend on some teams like San Diego State, Creighton, and Iowa State who are going to be right there too. How they stack us up to the Duke/Virginia loser would decide a lot too. Then again Wisconsin won't fall lower than 3 but I think our resume is just as strong. We are comparable as far as high quality non-conference wins, we tied in the Big Ten standing but we now have the edge based on the tournament win. We lost by 2 at their place down 2 starters and beat them at full strength on a neutral court.

 

[Spartan23MSU]

I doubt a 2 under any circumstance. Win 3, lose 4

 

[Sbee]

I don't see us a getting a 2. Whether we can lose tomorrow and still get a 3 might depend on some teams like San Diego State, Creighton, and Iowa State who are going to be right there too. How they stack us up to the Duke/Virginia loser would decide a lot too. Then again Wisconsin won't fall lower than 3 but I think our resume is just as strong. We are comparable as far as high quality non-conference wins, we tied in the Big Ten standing but we now have the edge based on the tournament win. We lost by 2 at their place down 2 starters and beat them at full strength on a neutral court.

I'd agree with you if injuries weren't taken into account and our record was what it was

 

[MSUMatt28]

It is going to be interesting to see how much they take that into account. If they can beat UW and UM back-to-back to demonstrate that they're a different team when fully healthy, then maybe.

More often I see the committee ding teams when a key player goes down and they know he won't be available for the NCAAs than I see them cut a team a break because they lost some games while certain guys were out. A 3 is good though. No difference really between a 2 and a 3. The 3 still has to beat the 2, or vice versa to advance. Staying off the 4 line and avoiding the top seeds until the regional final would be good though.

 

[Sbee]

Not much difference between the last two and first 3, still with 1 overall on the s curve

 

[biggunsbob]

Problem with the seeding's is he game starts late... Committee probably will have them in the 2 or 3 spot and wait to see who wins and rip that nameplate off. Michigan's name will be in the 1 or 2 spot.... See who wins. same thing. Or Michigan will just be in the 2 spot with win or loss.. Not sure I am buying Joe Lunardi's thinking that we are a # 1 seed.. Sure is a logjam for the 2 seeds..

 

[Sbee]

Problem with the seeding's is he game starts late... Committee probably will have them in the 2 or 3 spot and wait to see who wins and rip that nameplate off. Michigan's name will be in the 1 or 2 spot.... See who wins. same thing. Or Michigan will just be in the 2 spot with win or loss.. Not sure I am buying Joe Lunardi's thinking that we are a # 1 seed.. Sure is a logjam for the 2 seeds..

in the past they have said that they had two brackets, one based on each outcome. they said that MSU and OSU were playing for a 1 in 2012, one bracket had MSU as the 1 and the other had OSU. this game will matter

 

[MSUMatt28]

It still seems really unlikely we get a 2 even with a win. I think we squeeze into the 3 line with a win, but it won't be easy. San Diego State and Creighton losing I think bump them both down to 4's. But here are all the other contenders:

Arizona, Florida, WSU, Villanova, Michigan, Kansas, Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, Iowa State, Louisville, Wisconsin.

That's 12 right there. We'd probably need to get in ahead of whoever they deem as #3 in the ACC pecking order. I can't see anyone else on that list falling to a 4.

 

[Sbee]

It still seems really unlikely we get a 2 even with a win. I think we squeeze into the 3 line with a win, but it won't be easy. San Diego State and Creighton losing I think bump them both down to 4's. But here are all the other contenders:

Arizona, Florida, WSU, Villanova, Michigan, Kansas, Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, Iowa State, Louisville, Wisconsin.

That's 12 right there. We'd probably need to get in ahead of whoever they deem as #3 in the ACC pecking order. I can't see anyone else on that list falling to a 4.

No way Syracuse, Kansas, or iowa state would be ahead of us Syracuse is playing like a nit team, kansas lost 8 and is wo embid, and isu just isn't that impressive.

Though if we play like we did yesterday, seeding doesn't matter much

 

[MSUMatt28]

No way Syracuse, Kansas, or iowa state would be ahead of us Syracuse is playing like a nit team, kansas lost 8 and is wo embid, and isu just isn't that impressive.

Though if we play like we did yesterday, seeding doesn't matter much

True. I didn't mention them but I just saw a projection that had Cincinnati as a 3, which is laughable. Syracuse is probably most likely to be bumped down to 4. Kansas has 9 losses but more Top 50 wins than anyone in the country. Iowa State has a lot of quality wins too.

I think we're better than ISU, but they're fun to watch. Hoiberg can coach.

 

[LuciousGameWinner]

Lunardi has us a four in the Midwest and playing UNC in the 2nd round. No thanks....

 

[Monster]

i think if you guys beat us, there's a legit chance you move all the way up to a 2. You'd have beaten us and Wisconsin in back to back days. That, combined with proving you're healthy and on top of your game, should be a huge benefit in the eyes of the committee. If you lose, then a 3 or a 4. I guess it just depends on how much weight they give to today's games.

and a sidenote: I wish all conference tourney championship games were played on friday and saturday

 

[Sbee]

i think if you guys beat us, there's a legit chance you move all the way up to a 2. You'd have beaten us and Wisconsin in back to back days. That, combined with proving you're healthy and on top of your game, should be a huge benefit in the eyes of the committee. If you lose, then a 3 or a 4. I guess it just depends on how much weight they give to today's games.

and a sidenote: I wish all conference tourney championship games were played on friday and saturday

Huge disadvantage if either of us get Thursday/Saturday. Its hard to get up emotionally over and over again.

 

[Spartan23MSU]

Lunardi has us a four in the Midwest and playing UNC in the 2nd round. No thanks....

Id rather play Louisville than NC.