Otl - al mvp

[Mitchrapp]

AJ just makes it look easier. He's smooth and gets to just about everything.

 

[mjsb2]

True that. Not as much film, not many pitchers faced him before etc.

They also have no experience against the pitchers.

This argument is often tossed around, but it's a pretty poor one.

The hitter doesn't have any advantage when facing a pitcher he's never seen before.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Well, IMO, I see it as easier for the hitter. And, also IMO, I see more good 1st year position players that suddenly suck than the other way around. Granted they don't throw out Trout's numbers but I still think it's easier for the hitter, IMO.

 

[spockmaster]

They also have no experience against the pitchers.

This argument is often tossed around, but it's a pretty poor one.

The hitter doesn't have any advantage when facing a pitcher he's never seen before.

i feel theres a slight advantage to a rookie hitter if he's facing a pitcher that there's a scouting report on, because there really isnt going to be a scouting report for the hitter. not much of an advantage to really make a large difference, but its likely there.

 

[mjsb2]

Well, IMO, I see it as easier for the hitter. And, also IMO, I see more good 1st year position players that suddenly suck than the other way around. Granted they don't throw out Trout's numbers but I still think it's easier for the hitter, IMO.

Whenever there is a long AB, like 10 or 12 pitches, Rod usually will say that after that many pitches, it's advantage to the hitter, because he's had a bunch of time to get the timing down and get a better read on his pitcher.

I take that to mean the pitcher has the advantage earlier in the bat, and would argue that's the same, especially in the case of a rookie hitter facing a pitcher he's never seen before.

When neither has faced each other, IMO, it's harder for the hitter, because he has no idea the timing of the pitcher down, he's never seen the break of his pitches.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Whenever there is a long AB, like 10 or 12 pitches, Rod usually will say that after that many pitches, it's advantage to the hitter.

When neither has faced each other, IMO, it's harder for the hitter, because he has no idea the timing of the pitcher down, he's never seen the break of his pitches.

The pitcher just has to throw the ball.

Spock probably makes a good point. Rookie to rookie you might be right but Trout can watch film, especially early. There is less film on trout or just any rookie.

 

[mjsb2]

Spock probably makes a good point. Rookie to rookie you might be right but Trout can watch film, especially early. There is less film on trout or just any rookie.

I'd argue film really doesn't help that much, at least in terms of getting a read on the break of his pitches and getting timing down.

The film won't be from the same angle that the batter will be watching the pitcher from, which really renders it useless in regards to that.

It will help you see how the pitcher may set hitters up, what pitches he likes to throw in certain situations, and that kind of stuff, but most pitchers switch up their strategy from game to game/batter to batter.

So while it does help, I don't see it as offering anything more than an insignificant advantage.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Maybe.