RB situation

[kdp1980]

How many Rbs do you guys think we will keep?

 

[kdp1980]

Tony, you are saying you wouldn't take Bell for those two?

You are swapping the best RB (or close to it) in the game for a guy who hasn't played yet in Abdullah. Bell can be replaced by a majority of backup RBs who do similar stuff.

LOL a drug problem. Guy got busted for pot.

So did Josh Gordon. Doesn't L. Bell have 2 offenses now? Bell is a great player, but there are concerns about off the field stuff. AA sounds like a high character guy, so no, I would not trade him for a guy that is missing time due to smoking pot.

 

[LKP]

Running backs have low value and LeVeon Bell has a drug problem. A problem that could get him a year suspension next time.

Joique is a top 10 back and Abdullah is loaded with talent. You take the two guys. It gives you better depth too. Joique deserves some blocking.

 

[LKP]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/15825/leveon-bell
And Leveon had 3.5 YPC in 2013. Joique had 3.9 without much blocking. Bell also had more receiving yards in 2013.

You overrate Leveon and underrate Joique and Abdullah.

And I hope you give me the LeVeon was a rookie excuse because I can't wait for year 2 Ebron.

I won this argument. *drops mic*

 

[sggatecl]

Bell didn't have run blocking!!!!! 4.4 YPC the last 8 games. Joique Bell is a top 10 back per PFF. Abdullah has so much talent. No way I give up 2 for a guy with a drug problem.

I don't care about DYAR.

Of course you don't care about DYAR. It doesn't fit your agenda. I'm sure you don't care that J Bell led all backs with 5 fumbles and L Bell had 0 in 2014. You just keep clinging to those 2013 stats buddy. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Way to ruin yet another thread with your bullshit.

 

[LKP]

Bell had 3.5 YPC and suddenly 4.7 YPC. Run blocking matters!!!! Better run blocking would help Joique. Joique is a top 10 back based on yards after contact and elusivenss. He has receiving ability too.

I won this so much.

DYAR who the hell cares. Joique is a good back. You underrate him so so much. Like you do many do with most Lions players.

Basically if he's not Calvin, you hate them. Your opinions are just so poor and misinformed.

 

[brewer229]

So Lions had a top 10 running back for at least half the season. There goes that excuse for #9.

 

[LKP]

So Lions had a top 10 running back for at least half the season. There goes that excuse for #9.

Not every game. Plus I still have the following:

Stafford was not protected very well (due to Oline injuries and new system)
Drops were a problem
And the games at Patriots, at Arizona and at Green Bay the opponent did a great job blanketing Calvin and Tate for the most part. Stafford's 3 worst games. Rookie Ebron and Ross. Problems. Year 2 Ebron and Moore. Not a problem

 

[brewer229]

Not every game. Plus I still have the following:

Stafford was not protected very well (due to Oline injuries and new system)
Drops were a problem
And the games at Patriots, at Arizona and at Green Bay the opponent did a great job blanketing Calvin and Tate for the most part. Stafford's 3 worst games. Rookie Ebron and Ross. Problems. Year 2 Ebron and Moore. Not a problem

We are talking second half of the season. In the second half Stafford's sack rate (Sacks per attempt) was not too bad. More than half the QBs were sacked more frequently than him.

We already proved they were in the bottom half of the league in drops:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-receiver-drops-percentage/2014/

So basically he had good weapons, top 10 running back, top half of the league in protection and a great defense. According to you he only needs two of those to be an elite QB....what happened?

 

[kdp1980]

Bell is a top 10 back? You are absolutely crazy, guy

 

[LKP]

We are talking second half of the season. In the second half Stafford's sack rate (Sacks per attempt) was not too bad. More than half the QBs were sacked more frequently than him.

We already proved they were in the bottom half of the league in drops:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-receiver-drops-percentage/2014/

So basically he had good weapons, top 10 running back, top half of the league in protection and a great defense. According to you he only needs two of those to be an elite QB....what happened?

LOL using just sack rate. It's hits and hurries too you bozo.

They were top half in drops. PFF. Sporting charts doesn't watch the tape like PFF.

Plus a new system, no protection still and like I said Calvin/Tate were blanketed those 3 games.

Plenty of legit reasons.

Plus Miami, Bucs, Bears and Vikings he did a good job. at Dallas too. Blanketed the other 3. Good second half at Chicago and moved the ball. Just two picks in redzone. We won the game.

 

[brewer229]

LOL using just sack rate. It's hits and hurries too you bozo.

They were top half in drops. PFF. Sporting charts doesn't watch the tape like PFF.

Plus a new system, no protection still and like I said Calvin/Tate were blanketed those 3 games.

Plenty of legit reasons.

Plus Miami, Bucs, Bears and Vikings he did a good job. at Dallas too. Blanketed the other 3. Good second half at Chicago and moved the ball. Just two picks in redzone. We won the game.

Pressure might not be so bad. PFF pointed out Stafford is one of the worst QBs in the league when not facing pressure.

 

[LKP]

Pressure might not be so bad. PFF pointed out Stafford is one of the worst QBs in the league when not facing pressure.

Tate and Calvin were blanketed n his 3 worst games. Ebron was a rookie. Ross was of no use to anyone. Bush was hurt alot. And Stafford faced a good amount of pressure.

 

[dubbsco]

Tate and Calvin were blanketed? What does that even mean? Isn't every WR matched up with cornerbacks/safeties/linebackers?

How many teams can you name that had a better situation than Stafford did at WR last year? He had two of the top receivers in the game. Which, ideally would open up for other guys, IE Eric stonehands Ebron.

 

[LKP]

Tate and Calvin were blanketed? What does that even mean? Isn't every WR matched up with cornerbacks/safeties/linebackers?

How many teams can you name that had a better situation than Stafford did at WR last year? He had two of the top receivers in the game. Which, ideally would open up for other guys, IE Eric stonehands Ebron.

They didn't get very open in those games like the others. Peterson/Cromartie, Revies/Browner, Shields/Tramon did a good job.

 

[LKP]

All QBs had a better situation than Stafford when you combine all these things.
Protection, run game, injuries, knowing the system, drops

it was mainly injury driven with Oline and weapons and a new system
And stafford was still outstanding in 2014.

 

[jdeb]

Lions might have the best running attack in the NFL this year. Revamped OLine as well. I'm stoked for this year. Lions are going to the Super Bowl!

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

 

[brewer229]

Lions might have the best running attack in the NFL this year. Revamped OLine as well. I'm stoked for this year. Lions are going to the Super Bowl!

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Every preseason my man. Every preseason.

 

[dubbsco]

No, not even close. Maybe top 10 at this point, could get better as Abdullah proves himself on the big stage.

Bell is adequate. Beyond that, unproven guys.

 

[tonyballs]

Zenner? What? Oh...