Rice and Nicks

[michiganalex]

I know rice was injured but when healthy a decent WR and Nicks needs no story. would you go for either or both?

 

[tomdalton22]

I know rice was injured but when healthy a decent WR and Nicks needs no story. would you go for either or both?

No to both.

 

[michiganalex]

that's an intelligent response as usual from you

 

[LKP]

Rice way too injury prone.

Nicks depends on the price. Very down year in 2013 for him.

 

[tomdalton22]

that's an intelligent response as usual from you

You asked and I answered. I don't want either one on the Lions.

 

[lucke]

You asked and I answered. I don't want either one on the Lions.

I know rice was injured but when healthy a decent WR and Nicks needs no story. would you go for either or both?

you didn't state any facts or opinions either so as tom said, you asked a simple yes/no question and got a response. we're not mind readers.

and to answer your simple yes/no question, no to both

 

[Mitchrapp]

No for both.

 

[mhughes0021]

rice has never been very good and nicks is overpriced and doesn't warrant being paid that much. no thanks...

 

[coel73]

I want them to pick up a wr with hands like gorilla glue. Don't care who that guy is.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I want them to pick up a wr with hands like gorilla glue. Don't care who that guy is.

Easier said than done.

 

[kmd47]

Both are injury prone who have never lived up the hype and will command too much money for us to be interested. Rather draft a WR in round 1 or 2 and then another like Janis or Gallon late.

 

[tonyballs]

If Nicks would come cheap, i would take him.

 

[LKP]

In looking at Nicks he had 896 yards and missed a game. No TDs on the year though. Down year for him, but we would be jumping for joy if he had 900 yards as the Lions number 2. 2010 and 2011 he was good. 2012 only 700 yards and 3 TDs. But that's basically Burleson production.

 

[lgolfer]

In looking at Nicks he had 896 yards and missed a game. No TDs on the year though. Down year for him, but we would be jumping for joy if he had 900 yards as the Lions number 2. 2010 and 2011 he was good. 2012 only 700 yards and 3 TDs. But that's basically Burleson production.

Since he's likely to be one of the higher-priced free agent WRs, I don't want us to sign Nicks. I feel like the Lions can get a #2 WR in the draft and a #3 WR in either free agency or the draft.

 

[Mitchrapp]

In looking at Nicks he had 896 yards and missed a game. No TDs on the year though. Down year for him, but we would be jumping for joy if he had 900 yards as the Lions number 2. 2010 and 2011 he was good. 2012 only 700 yards and 3 TDs. But that's basically Burleson production.

We need young and cheap..but Nicks doesn't seem to score much. 900 yards doesn't mean much when you don't score..so no we wouldn't be jumping for joy.

 

[food4thought]

It wouldn't be a good idea to put everything on a rookie as the #2... rookie WR's rarely have great success at the NFL level, it takes time for them to adjust to the speed of the game and the better competition.

IDK if Knicks is a good answer, but we need to bring in a capable veteran to at least provide competition at the #2 for the rookie/s and crutchy smurf.

 

[lgolfer]

It would be a good idea to put everything on a rookie as the #2... rookie WR's rarely have great success at the NFL level, it takes time for them to adjust to the speed of the game and the better competition.

IDK if Knicks is a good answer, but we need to bring in a capable veteran to at least provide competition at the #2 for the rookie/s and crutchy smurf.

I'm sure the Lions will sign a free agent WR, but I think it will be a hands guy who runs good routes, not necessarily a guy will will routinely line up across from Calvin. Also, if we take a guy like Jordan Matthews in the 2nd round (if he's still there), I think he could have good success as a rookie. It all depends on the mental make-up of who we draft. I think guys like Sammy Watkins, Matthews, etc. could adjust rather quickly.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm sure the Lions will sign a free agent WR, but I think it will be a hands guy who runs good routes, not necessarily a guy will will routinely line up across from Calvin. Also, if we take a guy like Jordan Matthews in the 2nd round (if he's still there), I think he could have good success as a rookie. It all depends on the mental make-up of who we draft. I think guys like Sammy Watkins, Matthews, etc. could adjust rather quickly.

We need a hands guy who runs good routes across from Calvin. We don't need someone who just has speed and runs deep. We don't have a QB who can benefit from that.

What will help Staff is if the WR can get open so he's not throwing into coverage all the time. I have no faith that Staff can hit a wide open WR 40 yards downfield.

 

[lgolfer]

We need a hands guy who runs good routes across from Calvin. We don't need someone who just has speed and runs deep. We don't have a QB who can benefit from that.

What will help Staff is if the WR can get open so he's not throwing into coverage all the time. I have no faith that Staff can hit a wide open WR 40 yards downfield.

Because the WR class this year is so deep, we can get a WR in the 2nd round who has speed to beat coverage deep, but also has good hands and runs good routes. Our #2 can't just be a hands guy who runs good routes. That's what a slot receiver is for. Our #2 has to have decent size (at least 6ft) with enough speed to make plays down the field (as well as good hands and a good route runner).

I'll admit, Stafford was inconsistent with his deep ball last year. He had some great passes, like the sideline line-drives in the 2nd and 4th highlights in the video below, but he also underthrew or overthrew his WRs many times.

But I think it's very unreasonable to eliminate the deep ball from the Lions offense. Both Lombardi and Caldwell should help Stafford with his footwork over the offseason, which will help his consistency with the deep throws. I understand why you're very pessimistic about Stafford improving, but I find it stupid to think that a WR who can go deep wouldn't help Stafford and the offense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFZbN_Ul2q4

 

[Mitchrapp]

Because the WR class this year is so deep, we can get a WR in the 2nd round who has speed to beat coverage deep, but also has good hands and runs good routes. Our #2 can't just be a hands guy who runs good routes. That's what a slot receiver is for. Our #2 has to have decent size (at least 6ft) with enough speed to make plays down the field (as well as good hands and a good route runner).

I'll admit, Stafford was inconsistent with his deep ball last year. He had some great passes, like the sideline line-drives in the 2nd and 4th highlights in the video below, but he also underthrew or overthrew his WRs many times.

But I think it's very unreasonable to eliminate the deep ball from the Lions offense. Both Lombardi and Caldwell should help Stafford with his footwork over the offseason, which will help his consistency with the deep throws. I understand why you're very pessimistic about Stafford improving, but I find it stupid to think that a WR who can go deep wouldn't help Stafford and the offense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFZbN_Ul2q4

That's fine but if his main job is to go deep we're wasting a pick. I'm not putting all my eggs into the "Caldwell, Lombardi - footwork" basket. Hell, CJ was a slot receiver a lot last year. You know why? Because our QB can't throw deep.